Some Info on 2004 E350
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Some Info on 2004 E350
Translated from German:
"Starting from model year 2004 the E 320 is by 3.7 litres large and 245 HP (350 Nm) of strong E 350 to be replaced. Since new model year begins approx. in the September of the previous year, the premiere with the all-wheel drive (4matic) of the e-class might be on the IAA 2003. Already starting from 22 March 2003 the E will celebrate 400 CDI (for the time being only in the sedan available) with e-class the t-model premiere. It carries then 260 HP out and is a torque of 560 Nm between 1700-2600 U/min to have. It accelerates the e-class in 6,9s to 100 km/h. Abgeregelt becomes as usual with 250. Consumption is to amount to 9.4 litres on 100 km. "
"Starting from model year 2004 the E 320 is by 3.7 litres large and 245 HP (350 Nm) of strong E 350 to be replaced. Since new model year begins approx. in the September of the previous year, the premiere with the all-wheel drive (4matic) of the e-class might be on the IAA 2003. Already starting from 22 March 2003 the E will celebrate 400 CDI (for the time being only in the sedan available) with e-class the t-model premiere. It carries then 260 HP out and is a torque of 560 Nm between 1700-2600 U/min to have. It accelerates the e-class in 6,9s to 100 km/h. Abgeregelt becomes as usual with 250. Consumption is to amount to 9.4 litres on 100 km. "
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WHO'S GUESSING?
Originally posted by Callaway
Still much confusion and rumours around the E350.
Anyone's guess is as good as any.
Still much confusion and rumours around the E350.
Anyone's guess is as good as any.
www.jes-mercedes.de/indexie.htm
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Thanks, I'm well aware of the sourse,I check with it every second day and saw the post nearly a week ago.
My point is that they are not an official MB site so the information is still heresay-no matter how accurate they have been in the past.
I will wait for the official factory anouncement before I get too excited.
My point is that they are not an official MB site so the information is still heresay-no matter how accurate they have been in the past.
I will wait for the official factory anouncement before I get too excited.
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Hey Callaway, are you going to postpone your 2003 E320 if you get a definate answer about the E350?
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It is very logic, they have a lot of 3.2 available that they need to get rid off and also, would you imagine the problem that they will face if they release a new engine only after 4 months of the car launch.
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Originally posted by Crazy4Cars
It is very logic, they have a lot of 3.2 available that they need to get rid off and also, would you imagine the problem that they will face if they release a new engine only after 4 months of the car launch.
It is very logic, they have a lot of 3.2 available that they need to get rid off and also, would you imagine the problem that they will face if they release a new engine only after 4 months of the car launch.
They won't face any problems - and for MBZ it is not just "4 MONTHS." The W211 E320 went on sale worldwide in March 2002. The 3.2 engine has been in production since 1997.
The US W211 E320 went on sale in August 2002. The W211 E320 production will cease in June 2003.
The 2004 E350 will go into production in July 2003 and on sale in the US in September 2004.
What is the Big Deal. They have to do this - the competition is getting much more HP from similar sized engines. A 3.2 liter engine with only 221HP is not enough to compete, especially with Nissan getting 280HP from 3.5 liters and Jaguar gets 240HP from 3.0 liters.
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Originally posted by androza
Obviously because they would have a very large number of very irate E320 customers... things like that can shake brand loyalty, not something MB wants.
Obviously because they would have a very large number of very irate E320 customers... things like that can shake brand loyalty, not something MB wants.
Most customers with 2003 E320 really car less about a 2004 E350 - they will say theirs is just fine and don't need more HP, less gas mileage and a bigger engine. This has happend plenty time before in every industry. Is your PC, or TV as current as the one on the shelf?
Did the 1996 and 1997 E320 owners lose sleep over the V6 E320 in 1998? Did 1997 E420 owners protest when the E430 hit the next year. Did 1998 C230 owners trade in their cars for the 1999 C230 with supercharger. Did W140 owners demand the modular engines in the 1998 - 1999 S420 and S500. This type of thing happens to plenty of people in every market of products.
If the 2003 E320 owners feel burned, dissappointed or let down because the E350 is 6 months away it is their own fault because they did not ask me
or do enough research on the product.I was in the market for a V8 E-Class in 1996. I was just about to buy the 1997 E420 until I read an article in European Car about the new V6 & V8 modular engines coming the next year. I put my purchase on hold and waiting 12 months and even rode the bus to work while waiting. My wait was longer because the E430 did not come until February 1998 while the 1998 E320 came in September 1997.
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Don't most of the situations you describe happen between model years? I seriously dont know, but its only been 5 months since the redesigned E class came out, right? Thats why people would be mad, the 2003 E320 will have terrible resale since theres also the 2003 E350, especially when its a first year car.
And brand loyalty is vitally important. If you have a customer that feels burned enough, they wont go back to MB. And people that buy MBs typically have far larger influence then a Honda buyer. Theyre doctors, lawyers, businessmen... people that a large number of people regularly communicate with.
And brand loyalty is vitally important. If you have a customer that feels burned enough, they wont go back to MB. And people that buy MBs typically have far larger influence then a Honda buyer. Theyre doctors, lawyers, businessmen... people that a large number of people regularly communicate with.
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To answer your question E55 KEV, no I will not be cancelling my order if the new 350 engine arrives as you suspect.
The reason is cars are-as you said, a little like computers,there's always a new model around the corner.
With cars,you can spend your whole life waiting for a new model to arrive.
It's a predictable cycle.
A brand new model is released and then there is word of a special feature like Active Headlights on the way, then a new engine is released, followed by news of a mid life update, after which great deals are to be had to renew the interest in the current model, then finally word and sneak photos get out about a brand new replacement model on the way, and the wait goes on and on!!
No, the 320 will be powerful enough and I also keep my cars for over ten years, so there will be many more updates between now and then and by then resale value is not a major issue.
The reason is cars are-as you said, a little like computers,there's always a new model around the corner.
With cars,you can spend your whole life waiting for a new model to arrive.
It's a predictable cycle.
A brand new model is released and then there is word of a special feature like Active Headlights on the way, then a new engine is released, followed by news of a mid life update, after which great deals are to be had to renew the interest in the current model, then finally word and sneak photos get out about a brand new replacement model on the way, and the wait goes on and on!!
No, the 320 will be powerful enough and I also keep my cars for over ten years, so there will be many more updates between now and then and by then resale value is not a major issue.
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Originally posted by Carnaught
Speaking of keeping up on new models and changes, did it bother you when the new W211 came out and you have the previous (W210) iteration?
Speaking of keeping up on new models and changes, did it bother you when the new W211 came out and you have the previous (W210) iteration?
Being an Mercedes enthusiast, a member of this forum and knowing all the websites with information about future Mercedes products help with these types of buying decisions.
Now for the (my) Future. I will keep my current E55 and not consider the W211 E55 until two things have past:
First - after the mid-model update in 2005 for 2006 W211 models
Second - after introduction of the Direct Injection Engines due 2004/2005.
I have learned my lession - never buy a car until after the mid-model update if possible. Many owners are dissappointed when the chassis is upgraded greatly or the engine is improved.
