Tire Shopping
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2004 E320
Tire Shopping
My 2004 E320 has 59,8xx miles on it and it came with Continentals from the original owner. I am considering putting on one of the following three brands.
1) Michelin MXM4 (tread wear mileage is 50K)
2) Bridgestone Turanza Serenity (tread wear mileage is 70k)
3) Goodyear Assurance Comfort Tred (tread wear mileage is 80)
As per Tire Rack the Goodyear has a better rating than Bridgestone and is the most expensive of the three. Has anyone out there had experience with any one of these brands and if so which would be the best choice? I put on about 5k miles per year and all on interstate roads. Thanks..
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1) Michelin MXM4 (tread wear mileage is 50K)
2) Bridgestone Turanza Serenity (tread wear mileage is 70k)
3) Goodyear Assurance Comfort Tred (tread wear mileage is 80)
As per Tire Rack the Goodyear has a better rating than Bridgestone and is the most expensive of the three. Has anyone out there had experience with any one of these brands and if so which would be the best choice? I put on about 5k miles per year and all on interstate roads. Thanks..
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My 2004 E320 has 59,8xx miles on it and it came with Continentals from the original owner. I am considering putting on one of the following three brands.
1) Michelin MXM4 (tread wear mileage is 50K)
2) Bridgestone Turanza Serenity (tread wear mileage is 70k)
3) Goodyear Assurance Comfort Tred (tread wear mileage is 80)
As per Tire Rack the Goodyear has a better rating than Bridgestone and is the most expensive of the three. Has anyone out there had experience with any one of these brands and if so which would be the best choice? I put on about 5k miles per year and all on interstate roads. Thanks..
tarheel76
1) Michelin MXM4 (tread wear mileage is 50K)
2) Bridgestone Turanza Serenity (tread wear mileage is 70k)
3) Goodyear Assurance Comfort Tred (tread wear mileage is 80)
As per Tire Rack the Goodyear has a better rating than Bridgestone and is the most expensive of the three. Has anyone out there had experience with any one of these brands and if so which would be the best choice? I put on about 5k miles per year and all on interstate roads. Thanks..
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if your not driving that much per year I would not worry about the mileage wear rating in your case, you will want to replace the tires due to age rather than wear, from your three choice I would rather get the michelins.
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Take a look a the Yokohama AVID ENVigors if you are concerned about tire wear. These were my first purchase of "HP All-Season" tires for the E350, I'm really happy with them. The handling is very good for routine daily driving and I have had no problems in the wet. Sidewalls seem stiff and very responsive to turn-in. I was interested in longer tread life (560) and what I hope will be better traction in the occasional snow. This is a counter-measure to balance out the 5000 miles or less that I get out of the rear tires on my C63. 
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I'll add my endorsement for the DWS which are performing outstandingly on our E Class. But, they are more of a performance tire versus touring tire, and while extremely quiet and comfortable for the UHP all season tire category, his first two choices may be even moreso, although not with the same performance capability.
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One more vote for the DWS - although I can't say they're the quietest tires (I get some hum from them around 80 MPH or so) they're just the best when it comes to all-year performance. My 211 is my daily driver/commute car as well as the road trip car, and these tires have been just flawless in everything I've driven in. I put a set on my Mini (previous car) which had far more performance potential than an E320, and they were awesome on it too.
There may be better tires for just summer driving, but if you're not sure what kind of weather you may end up dealing with, the DWS are a solid choice.
There may be better tires for just summer driving, but if you're not sure what kind of weather you may end up dealing with, the DWS are a solid choice.
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In Louisiana, absolutely, for performance lovers! But, it may drop below 45 degrees F where he lives...we can't tell from his post...and that's a summer tire. We do know he's not interested in performance and wants smooth, quiet, and soft, based on his consideration set.
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The E320 just got a set of Nokian WRG2's - I would have put these on my car but Nokian didn't make my [allowable] rear tire sizes.
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In Louisiana, absolutely, for performance lovers! But, it may drop below 45 degrees F where he lives...we can't tell from his post...and that's a summer tire. We do know he's not interested in performance and wants smooth, quiet, and soft, based on his consideration set.
That's interesting because the E and S came with these tires NEW in the showroom. But then I suppose MB would decide which tires to put on new cars based on local driving.
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The R500 I bought my wife in Southern California came with high performance summer tires, from the factory. Kind of odd considering it's an AWD vehicle. I didn't even notice it until she almost put the thing in a ditch when the first snow hit.
Another +1 for the ContiExtreme DWS. I put them on EVERY single car I own, that they make the size for. I tell anyone that will listen to me, that these are the absolute best all-season tire I've ever driven on. They're really THAT good.
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Also, 2 winters ago when DC/VA got hit with 3 storms in a months time, i finally dug out (22" of snow the 2nd storm before Christmas) and was driving in 8 inches of slush with no problems at all, while trucks, suvs, and vans were trying to stay in their lanes.
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There are several manufacturers who offer summer performance tires as an option, but there is always an all season alternative. The inventory on the ground with those tires probably had those tires listed on the Monroney, although it would be possible to flip the process and offer summer performance as standard and allow an option for all seasons. Before my Benz, I had an SRT8, and it had standard summer performance tires, but I opted for the all seasons.
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2004 E320 4matic Sedan
Very Happy with All Season Continental ExtremeContact DWS
Two weeks ago I bought Continental ExtremeContact DWS 225/55ZR -16 for my 2004 MY e320 4Matic
500 miles and I am very happy so far. I bought them from Tire Rack and had them installed by the local Goodyear store, to which they were delivered.
I drove to the installer's in a minor snow storm and the new tires handled just fine on the way home.
After so little time, I have no useful comment on wear, but I can say they've been great in rain, very capable in the odd bits of ice I deliberately sought out (for an all-season non-studded tire, anyway) and handled a few inches of snow with aplomb. I have not had to drive through serious depths of snow yet, but on compacted snow they gripped very well.
They corner quite OK for my driving style. I can believe there are better Summer tires out there that will handle more side force G, but for the price I doubt there is a better all-season. Despite what I have read, the sidewalls seem quite stiff enough to give the cornering response I need.
They were significantly cheaper installed than anything comparable I could find. If you live north of the Mason-Dixon, worry a bit about Winter driving, but don't want a set of Winter tires, these may be for you. (Maybe even if you live a further South if rain is a concern)
500 miles and I am very happy so far. I bought them from Tire Rack and had them installed by the local Goodyear store, to which they were delivered.
I drove to the installer's in a minor snow storm and the new tires handled just fine on the way home.
After so little time, I have no useful comment on wear, but I can say they've been great in rain, very capable in the odd bits of ice I deliberately sought out (for an all-season non-studded tire, anyway) and handled a few inches of snow with aplomb. I have not had to drive through serious depths of snow yet, but on compacted snow they gripped very well.
They corner quite OK for my driving style. I can believe there are better Summer tires out there that will handle more side force G, but for the price I doubt there is a better all-season. Despite what I have read, the sidewalls seem quite stiff enough to give the cornering response I need.
They were significantly cheaper installed than anything comparable I could find. If you live north of the Mason-Dixon, worry a bit about Winter driving, but don't want a set of Winter tires, these may be for you. (Maybe even if you live a further South if rain is a concern)
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Anybody have an opinion on the Continental ProContact vs the ExtremeContact? Trying to sort out the differences but it's tough...
I'm a high mileage driver in the Carolina's (if it matters). Thanks!
I'm a high mileage driver in the Carolina's (if it matters). Thanks!
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2008 E320 Bluetec
Actually, I take tire safety quite seriously:
1) in winter I use Bridgestone Blizac WS60 Winter Studless tires on all my cars including the bluetec
2) I would love to put the Hanook Ventus V12 summer tires on the MB, but they do not make it in the stock size (225, 55R16). I have these on an AWD 400 HP sports car and they are great. Have to find a replacement for the Michelin MMX original all seasons which are at the end of their life. I drove with these michelins for 1 winter, and the car was a death trap. Horrible tire for snow/slippery roads.
Also, I throw tires away after 7 years, even if they still have tread on them. I have done this on two separate occasions with a low mileage car. I do not like extreme high mileage tires because that means that they are low resistance tires. Great for fuel consumption, but their handling (skidpad, braking, etc) will be worse, and all of this gets amplified in cold/snowy weather.
Good luck,
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1) in winter I use Bridgestone Blizac WS60 Winter Studless tires on all my cars including the bluetec
2) I would love to put the Hanook Ventus V12 summer tires on the MB, but they do not make it in the stock size (225, 55R16). I have these on an AWD 400 HP sports car and they are great. Have to find a replacement for the Michelin MMX original all seasons which are at the end of their life. I drove with these michelins for 1 winter, and the car was a death trap. Horrible tire for snow/slippery roads.
Also, I throw tires away after 7 years, even if they still have tread on them. I have done this on two separate occasions with a low mileage car. I do not like extreme high mileage tires because that means that they are low resistance tires. Great for fuel consumption, but their handling (skidpad, braking, etc) will be worse, and all of this gets amplified in cold/snowy weather.
Good luck,
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2006 E320 CDI 235 hp 420 ft tq
My last tires where Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus and they where a good tire I feel that they where old when I got them as they only lasted 26000 miles and have a 500 wear rate.
I had the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S before the Pilot sports and they lasted for 65,000 miles before they where down to 4/32nds this was two years and they had a 400 wear rate , so I was looking foward to a little more time with the Pilot Sports.
After the Michelins I looked at more than a few tires and got the Yokohama Avid ENVigor, what sold me was a Extra load tire "heavy diesel motor" and the tread wear rating.
I have 26,000 miles on them and they have worn 2/32nds off of them so far in a little more than a year, not to bad.
I was torn between the ENVigor and going back with the Michelin Pilot Exalto's.
The Envigor has a little more noise than the Pilot Sports and the tire pressure can be a little less to make up for the heavier sidewalls.
My last set of Yokohamas where not very good for cold weather these have been good this year but we have had no ice or snow so hard to tell.
Tire Rack had the Pilot Exalto and the Envigor in the same class on a test report.
It is all down to the type of driving and what You want from a tire.
I had the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S before the Pilot sports and they lasted for 65,000 miles before they where down to 4/32nds this was two years and they had a 400 wear rate , so I was looking foward to a little more time with the Pilot Sports.
After the Michelins I looked at more than a few tires and got the Yokohama Avid ENVigor, what sold me was a Extra load tire "heavy diesel motor" and the tread wear rating.
I have 26,000 miles on them and they have worn 2/32nds off of them so far in a little more than a year, not to bad.
I was torn between the ENVigor and going back with the Michelin Pilot Exalto's.
The Envigor has a little more noise than the Pilot Sports and the tire pressure can be a little less to make up for the heavier sidewalls.
My last set of Yokohamas where not very good for cold weather these have been good this year but we have had no ice or snow so hard to tell.
Tire Rack had the Pilot Exalto and the Envigor in the same class on a test report.
It is all down to the type of driving and what You want from a tire.
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It's great to see other CDI owners. In my tires, I prefer winter studless tires for the winter season and extreme performance summer tires for the other 3 seasons. An important requirement for my summer tire is excellent drivability in rain as well as dry, as I drive all my cars daily. The Hanook Ventus V12 fit all my parameters, and it was a Y rated (186 mph), high load, very quiet tire. I'll look into your tire suggestions to see if they might suit me.
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2006 E320 CDI 235 hp 420 ft tq
I went with the Michelin Pilot Sports due to the tread wear and higer speed rating , at the time I was going to have my ECU remapped.
After the ECU remapping the top end is still 130 mph it just gets there faster.
I travel sometimes where there is snow but not often so All season tires work best for me.
It is good to see other diesel owners out there.
Have a good Day
After the ECU remapping the top end is still 130 mph it just gets there faster.
I travel sometimes where there is snow but not often so All season tires work best for me.
It is good to see other diesel owners out there.
Have a good Day
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2008 E320 Bluetec
I doubt my wife will let me remap the ECU on her car, but who did you do it through? How much did it cost? Time frame? Did your cruising fuel economy improve, ie. when you drive nicely at 70 mph? And how many miles did you put on your chipped setup so far? How much faster do you think you car is in a 0-60? How many miles do you have on your car?
Forgive all the questions. I'm just excited to speak to other diesel owners. I love seeying other CDI/bluetecs on the road.
-Mike-
Forgive all the questions. I'm just excited to speak to other diesel owners. I love seeying other CDI/bluetecs on the road.
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2006 E320 CDI 235 hp 420 ft tq
I have put 45,000 miles on it from the remapping I had it done by a Upsolute dealer here in Dallas.
It did not help mileage it is faster but to say how much would be hard to say as I never timed it before the remapping.
The Upsolute dealer had to down load the program on the ECU and send it off so it could check and the right program sent to remap it. the cost was $450. and 3 days from down load to getting the install of new program.
My last car a VW TDI I had the same Upsolute dealer do it and put around 190,000 miles on it with out any problems.
There are better programs " more power" out there but I want to keep my car for 300,000 to 400,000 miles or around 10 to 13 more years.
by then it most likely be a 2nd car.
I travel a lot so all the little things help even tires.
It did not help mileage it is faster but to say how much would be hard to say as I never timed it before the remapping.
The Upsolute dealer had to down load the program on the ECU and send it off so it could check and the right program sent to remap it. the cost was $450. and 3 days from down load to getting the install of new program.
My last car a VW TDI I had the same Upsolute dealer do it and put around 190,000 miles on it with out any problems.
There are better programs " more power" out there but I want to keep my car for 300,000 to 400,000 miles or around 10 to 13 more years.
by then it most likely be a 2nd car.
I travel a lot so all the little things help even tires.
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Thanks for all the details. It's great to see that remapping the ECU is not detrimental to our diesel engines. In the past I have done an electronic boost controller, for my sports car, and the setup lasted me 70,000 miles without ill effects.
I'm considering purchasing a 2012 VW Passat TDI, manual transmission, as a daily driver car for myself. I might chip that one easier than my wife's bluetec. I travel a lot too, and I keep my cars for 10-15 years, so that is why I'm considering buying a more fuel efficient car than my 17 mpg average 400HP sports car. If I can improve the performance slightly on the new TDI, I'll be a happier camper and my withdrawal symptoms will be less, especially with the manual transmission.
Take care,
-Mike-
I'm considering purchasing a 2012 VW Passat TDI, manual transmission, as a daily driver car for myself. I might chip that one easier than my wife's bluetec. I travel a lot too, and I keep my cars for 10-15 years, so that is why I'm considering buying a more fuel efficient car than my 17 mpg average 400HP sports car. If I can improve the performance slightly on the new TDI, I'll be a happier camper and my withdrawal symptoms will be less, especially with the manual transmission.
Take care,
-Mike-
