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Old 12-02-2011, 01:46 PM
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Navigation CD version

I have an 07 E350,what should I look for on the cd to know if I have an updated version. The build date of the car was 06/06...marketed as an 07. The cd has 2006.1 printed on it. Need to hear from the gurus.
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there is at least version 10 which is what I have, I am sure the 11 is out also.
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Is there a source for any newer versions other than the dealer?
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V11 is Available

V11 came out a few weeks ago. You can buy it from the manufacture, NAVTEQ, for considerably less than at the dealer. It comes in the MB box with the MB part numbers. Link below. And of, course, there is always eBay.
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http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INT...gationMenu=YES
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what I am really waiting for is an update that let me put in the house number and not only the street! I dont see how they still have not corrected this.
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I agree. We visited a friend two weeks ago who just moved Maricopa AZ. The nav system allowed us to put in her house number, but then ignored it by giving us a range of house number as the destination. It took us to the street, about 4 blocks away from our destination. Hotel in Tempe was the same - took us to the middle of the street number range it selected – had us turn the wrong direction from the hotel.

My old 2001 BMW nav system, also NAVTEQ based, took us to the exact address, so I wonder if this is a COMAND limitation that no NAVTEQ map upgrade will fix.

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I agree. We visited a friend two weeks ago who just moved Maricopa AZ. The nav system allowed us to put in her house number, but then ignored it by giving us a range of house number as the destination. It took us to the street, about 4 blocks away from our destination. Hotel in Tempe was the same - took us to the middle of the street number range it selected – had us turn the wrong direction from the hotel.

My old 2001 BMW nav system, also NAVTEQ based, took us to the exact address, so I wonder if this is a COMAND limitation that no NAVTEQ map upgrade will fix.

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Their are three key players in automotive OE nav systems...1) the vehicle manufacturer and the specifications they set for their nav/radio chassis, 2) the supplier who designs and manufacturers the hardware and the software which makes the system operate, and, 3) the database supplier, in most cases NAVTEQ. It is not the fault of NAVTEQ how badly MB nav systems operate. They supply the same database to other OEs and their nav system suppliers who process and display the data in a much more helpful manner.
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Again, I agree. The nav HW/SW vendor really controls this aspect of the system performance, as spec'ed by MB. (Hard to believe MB actually requested this level of performance - more likely a cost trade off.)
Interesting though, during the time I had the BMW (2002-2011) there were more than 13 updates to the Philips manufactured nav system Operating System - many which added improved functionally. They were readily available and easy to install. See:
http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/all-bmw/navigation/9458-bmw-navigation-system-faq.html

So, is there a reason that MB does not allow HK/Becker to do the same for the COMAND system? Might be hardware/memory limit - then again, might not be.
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The folks who came up with that system had to go out of their way to come up with that bizarre method of un-routing you all.
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my 2010 version does not even let me put in the house number, just the dam street. This is the wrost nagivation system I have ever used, worst than, acura, bmw, honda, nissan, **** even my 4year old tom tom is better. What crap MB leave this out, how hard is it to imput a house number when every other navigation system can do it.
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my 2010 version does not even let me put in the house number, just the dam street. This is the wrost nagivation system I have ever used, worst than, acura, bmw, honda, nissan, **** even my 4year old tom tom is better. What crap MB leave this out, how hard is it to imput a house number when every other navigation system can do it.
Agree as to how poorly the MB system works, but you can get past the street name. Along the left side, one of the buttons will allow you to enter a house number (our E is not here right now for me to confirm, but I believe it is abbreviated HSE for house). However, once you enter it, you will only get a response of a range of numbers which includes the one you are seeking.
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The folks who came up with that system had to go out of their way to come up with that bizarre method of un-routing you all.
I had a Harman system in another car which was intentionally so averse to recommending a u-turn that I got a completely different route recommendation if I programmed it while still in my garage and whether I was parked nose in or had backed in. I learned this was based on the German's engineering perception of the risk of u-turns on many European roads, and they would not change it for North America. They had not anticipated the issue of a car parked in a garage. This is the level of brilliance we are dealing with, folks!! The answer is GARMIN!!
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Originally Posted by Sportstick
....However, once you enter it, you will only get a response of a range of numbers which includes the one you are seeking.
Sometimes you get the adress number range listed twice. The first time its an even range. and the second line is an odd address range. I can't tell you how many years I have been driving a 211 before my Wife pointed it out to me!

I guess it needs the odd/even house number info to determine your routing so it takes you to up the block and the house will be on the passenger side of the car.

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hahah.. I thought the house imput was broken, it let me enter the number then it would kick me to a range of numbers, I can't imagine why they would let you enter in a number then give you a range as the final choice. It is official, MB navigation sucks lol, at least I have a cool big screen.
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So is it better to not be able to put in the street address or is it better to put it and have it ignored?
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Originally Posted by Benzy3682
Is there a source for any newer versions other than the dealer?
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Originally Posted by AzCamel
hahah.. I thought the house imput was broken, it let me enter the number then it would kick me to a range of numbers, I can't imagine why they would let you enter in a number then give you a range as the final choice. It is official, MB navigation sucks lol, at least I have a cool big screen.
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So is it better to not be able to put in the street address or is it better to put it and have it ignored?
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Not so fast. Last Saturday I thought I was in the same boat with my 2012 v.9 software in our 3 week old GLK 350. I was trying to input 220 Main Street, Houston, TX. Simple hey? The best I could do was get the machine to accept 2 Main Street using the voice commands.
Lisa took over. Using manual entry. Selecting the Range of street numbers that included 220. Then entering 220. Worked like a charm. The system routed us through the maze of one way streets and put us at the valet parking desk of the Icon Hotel. Wives are good.

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mind buring me a copy so i can try it and see if the V.11 works like that for me?
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mind buring me a copy so i can try it and see if the V.11 works like that for me?
His won't work in yours because the GLK class uses a different dvd than the E Class
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Originally Posted by AzCamel
mind buring me a copy so i can try it and see if the V.11 works like that for me?
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His won't work in yours because the GLK class uses a different dvd than the E Class
Correct. Worse than that, when you buy new the software is already loaded on the hard drive. There is no DVD. Wish I could help.

I did think of one other way to get real street addresses into the Nav. System: Load an address into the nav. system from your phone address book. I did that with my daughter's address in the mountains of North Carolina. Worked like a charm.

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Originally Posted by venchka
Correct. Worse than that, when you buy new the software is already loaded on the hard drive. There is no DVD. Wish I could help.

I did think of one other way to get real street addresses into the Nav. System: Load an address into the nac. system from your phone address book. I did that with my daughter's address in the mountains of North Carolina. Worked like a charm.

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Bad part about that is my car has most of the options like keyless go, shade screen, and such and as you would have guessed, no bluetooth lol.
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I too just picked up my new 2012 GLK-350-loaded out with all the goodie. The one thing I really wanted was the too cool 3D graphics on my buddies 2013 E-Class. I have the ver 9.0 and it does not have the 3D option anywhere on it. I contacted my service writer buddy and sent him pictures from this site of the 3D output and he had not seen them--amazing to me!! He had his guy call Germany and it seems that the only model that doesn't not support 3D is the 2012 GLK350!!!
This is what he emailed to me:
Here is the info I got from Germany through our shop foreman:

S33 is similar in regards to navigation to S32. Essentially, the 2012 will NOT have 3D navigation available. This will be available for the GLK with MY2013.
Only selected models received the upgrade for this year (C/CLS/E/M/SLK) with more to follow next year.
Nav + 4 (code 079) only supports 2D navigation display.
He did say he will contact me when an updat is available. I went to the Navtec site and they say that it is not available at this time for my 2012 GLK and that I have the newest version for that car. Kind of sucks! I'm buying the update as soon as it comes in. I live in So CA and when driving in the cities like LA or San Diego--or when in San Francisco, it is worth it's weight in gold. Other than that--the nav system actually works great for me.
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I am on anther trip to Arizona. This time, I used the POI function to enter the hotel's address. The nav system took us right there, exact location. This tells me that the system in my 2008 W211 has the horsepower - the address range issue is likely interface driven. Mercedes Benz - please issue a software upgrade to improve this product's performance!
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Originally Posted by Mike_W
I am on anther trip to Arizona. This time, I used the POI function to enter the hotel's address. The nav system took us right there, exact location. This tells me that the system in my 2008 W211 has the horsepower - the address range issue is likely interface driven. Mercedes Benz - please issue a software upgrade to improve this product's performance!
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how did you do the POI?
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Update regarding Navigation upgrades: as I mentioned above, my brand new "ordered" and loaded 2012 GLK350 has to my dismay, the old version 9.0 navigation system in it, which by the way is the same old system as in the 2009 models.
Now for the awakening!
My wife picked up her brand new loaded 2012 C250 Sport Sedan and guess what? It has the new navigation system and it's light years ahead of mine! I feel cheated to say the least! Now only that, her's receives and reads out loud, text messages!!!! And, she also has the "cup of coffee" wake up notice on her system. Couple that with awesome 3-D navigation and the very cool instrumental graphics and it is worth the cost to upgrade, whatever that is. I'm really bummed that it's not in my "new car"!! What's even more amazing is that the service writers and sales people at the dealership didn't even know the text messaging was available. I registered with Navtect to be notified when an update came in. Just FYI for anyone that is interested. Thanks!


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