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Best Fuel Treatment
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2003 E320 Sedan
Best Fuel Treatment
I'm looking into getting some fuel treatment product for my E320, but cant decide between Techron or Lucas fuel treatment. What do you guys recommend, and is there anything else better than those?
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'03 SL55 AMG | 2021 AMG GLE 63s Coupe
Such a restrained reply, Plutoe! :-)
I noticed a line item on some dealer maint records for my E350 that says:
"ADD MOTOR OIL AND FUEL ADDITIVES FOR EFFICIENCY" and
under the parts sections:
EDIT: "MB CONCENTRAT" P/N 002-986-14-71-09 $7.35 <--- That's Windshield washer fluid! Can't find anything listed that is the "SECRET ADDITIVE" ;-) Sorry
So I'm guessing that's a dealer sham.
I noticed a line item on some dealer maint records for my E350 that says:
"ADD MOTOR OIL AND FUEL ADDITIVES FOR EFFICIENCY" and
under the parts sections:
EDIT: "MB CONCENTRAT" P/N 002-986-14-71-09 $7.35 <--- That's Windshield washer fluid! Can't find anything listed that is the "SECRET ADDITIVE" ;-) Sorry
So I'm guessing that's a dealer sham.
Last edited by Honcho; May 7, 2014 at 10:51 AM. Reason: more info
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2003 E500, 2004 G35X
Go to the website of toptiergas.com and you will see a list of gasoline retailers that meet the stringent specs of top tier gas. I first read about this in Motor Trend. This has been an eye opener for me! These retailers that meet the specs use a lot more additives to keep fuel system and engine clean. In my area, I am sticking with BP and Costco because they are cheaper than EXXON and Shell.
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2006e350 4matic wagon
Hello Guys:
My brother is a long haul truck driver and swears by Lucas oil.
He had a Chev S10 with over 300,000 KL. on it which still ran great. His mechanic asked him what he uses in his engine and told him to keep using it.
He got me convinced about five years ago, and I use it faithfully every time I fill up.
I pour about two ounces in gas tank every fill-up..
Hope this helps.
Cheers
My brother is a long haul truck driver and swears by Lucas oil.
He had a Chev S10 with over 300,000 KL. on it which still ran great. His mechanic asked him what he uses in his engine and told him to keep using it.
He got me convinced about five years ago, and I use it faithfully every time I fill up.
I pour about two ounces in gas tank every fill-up..
Hope this helps.
Cheers
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84 300d 2009 e320 bluetec (retired)/, now 2012 E350 4-matic blueefficiency automatic
Go to the website of toptiergas.com and you will see a list of gasoline retailers that meet the stringent specs of top tier gas. I first read about this in Motor Trend. This has been an eye opener for me! These retailers that meet the specs use a lot more additives to keep fuel system and engine clean. In my area, I am sticking with BP and Costco because they are cheaper than EXXON and Shell.
Ethanol was the original anti-knock compound but it could not be patented, so a highly toxic substance was used with a patent. I would like less ethanol to kept my older cars running well.
My cars have had a reduced mpg for the last few years. Getting old or just less energy with the newer gas in So. Cal?
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Just use Techron, this is what most benz and bimmer owners are using,, can't go wrong with it. I put a bottle in at every oil change.
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2006e350 4matic wagon
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[QUOTE=MagCL;6043530]Yah it's a chevron product. I assume by your username that you live in the US 
??? Pep boys, advance auto parts, walmart, amazon.com etc.[/QUOTE
Thanks for your reply:
I am American, but live on the Canadian West Coast. However, we do have Chevron stations here.
Most of the stations are Petro Canada, Esso (AKA Exxon).
Been filling up at Petro Canada, but will switch to Chevron , so I can start using Techron. Looking forward to trying out new product.
Cheers
??? Pep boys, advance auto parts, walmart, amazon.com etc.[/QUOTEThanks for your reply:
I am American, but live on the Canadian West Coast. However, we do have Chevron stations here.
Most of the stations are Petro Canada, Esso (AKA Exxon).
Been filling up at Petro Canada, but will switch to Chevron , so I can start using Techron. Looking forward to trying out new product.
Cheers
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From: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Techron & the equivalent BASF product are the only Benz approved treatments. Techron is unsurpassed. BP makes the closest performer to Techron but not as good on combustion chamber deposits.
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2006e350 4matic wagon
Techron/BASF
Definitely switching to TECHRON.
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84 300d 2009 e320 bluetec (retired)/, now 2012 E350 4-matic blueefficiency automatic
There was another product years ago, that really cleaned out the valves and essentially everthing along the combustion line, but release tons of smoke and needed to change oil after using it. Worked wonders on car, but they removed it from the market in CA and then other states. Anybody remember the name of the product? Not SeaFoam. May of been a GM product.
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2006e350 4matic wagon
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Sometimes available in 3 bottle packages at Costco.
There was another product years ago, that really cleaned out the valves and essentially everthing along the combustion line, but release tons of smoke and needed to change oil after using it. Worked wonders on car, but they removed it from the market in CA and then other states. Anybody remember the name of the product? Not SeaFoam. May of been a GM product.
There was another product years ago, that really cleaned out the valves and essentially everthing along the combustion line, but release tons of smoke and needed to change oil after using it. Worked wonders on car, but they removed it from the market in CA and then other states. Anybody remember the name of the product? Not SeaFoam. May of been a GM product.
He says it works really good. Don't remember the name though , but he says it is avail at GM parts.
Still going to try out Techron first though.
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I'm not one to drink the Kool-Aid, but..... I just bought a six pack of Techron 20oz bottles. I'll report back in a month or two about anything noticeable.
I should mention that I'm a "defensively aggressive" driver :-) TG for my Escort 9500ix and the fact that the boys in blue drive around with their radar running.... and damn that one that got the new laser toy!
I should mention that I'm a "defensively aggressive" driver :-) TG for my Escort 9500ix and the fact that the boys in blue drive around with their radar running.... and damn that one that got the new laser toy!
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2006e350 4matic wagon
Drinking KOOL AID
I'm not one to drink the Kool-Aid, but..... I just bought a six pack of Techron 20oz bottles. I'll report back in a month or two about anything noticeable.
I should mention that I'm a "defensively aggressive" driver :-) TG for my Escort 9500ix and the fact that the boys in blue drive around with their radar running.... and damn that one that got the new laser toy!
I should mention that I'm a "defensively aggressive" driver :-) TG for my Escort 9500ix and the fact that the boys in blue drive around with their radar running.... and damn that one that got the new laser toy!
Reel nice looking wheels!!!!
Come on Frenchie!!!! Drink the KOOL AID!
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BTW... my car doesn't scream (or even whisper?) "Give me a ticket, I can afford it." Does it? I need to come up with some patter in case I get pulled over. ;-)
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I always use an additive. Probably count the times I've skipped it at fillup on one hand.
I use the Power Service Diesel Supplement (white bottle) in the winter to prevent gelling, and the Lucas injector cleaner in the summer. I've used the lucas in other gas cars too.
I use the Power Service Diesel Supplement (white bottle) in the winter to prevent gelling, and the Lucas injector cleaner in the summer. I've used the lucas in other gas cars too.
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A member's nice clean valves running Techron. The black area further up the manifold is upstream of the injectors where the fuel can't get to clean.
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I bought some more Lucas Injector cleaner instead. Will look for Techron in June . Going to fly to New Hampsire to visit family.
Cheers
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For now, I will stick with Lucas injector cleaner. Techron seems to be not available where I live. Went to Chevron to fill up and was told that they can't get it anymore.
I bought some more Lucas Injector cleaner instead. Will look for Techron in June . Going to fly to New Hampsire to visit family.
Cheers
I bought some more Lucas Injector cleaner instead. Will look for Techron in June . Going to fly to New Hampsire to visit family.
Cheers
I think anyone can get there ;-)
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84 300d 2009 e320 bluetec (retired)/, now 2012 E350 4-matic blueefficiency automatic
Is the new GM top engine cleaner that same as the old pre-2002 formulation? Any poor man's alternative?
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I come from a Supermajor Oilco & have been testing in-fuel additives for over 30 years.
I don't like the GM top of engine & injector cleaner as it requires injection into the rail pre injectors. It is over concentrated and can do damage if added to fuel tank.
Techron will do everything the AC Delco product does & more ~ safely at recommended dose rate.
Techron can also be aggressive to yellow metals etc in the fuel system if Dosage recommendations are exceeded. At recommended dosage it is totally safe.
It has also passed all of Benz' exhaustive testing & the product that is sold as an MB Part number.
Techron is the finest clean up & keep clean additive system on the market.
As I have said before BP's system get's closest to Techron performance
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This is running on Techron fuel with the odd addition of Concentrate to the tank.
I come from a Supermajor Oilco & have been testing in-fuel additives for over 30 years.
I don't like the GM top of engine & injector cleaner as it requires injection into the rail pre injectors. It is over concentrated and can do damage if added to fuel tank.
Techron will do everything the AC Delco product does & more ~ safely at recommended dose rate.
Techron can also be aggressive to yellow metals etc in the fuel system if Dosage recommendations are exceeded. At recommended dosage it is totally safe.
It has also passed all of Benz' exhaustive testing & the product that is sold as an MB Part number.
Techron is the finest clean up & keep clean additive system on the market.
As I have said before BP's system get's closest to Techron performance
I come from a Supermajor Oilco & have been testing in-fuel additives for over 30 years.
I don't like the GM top of engine & injector cleaner as it requires injection into the rail pre injectors. It is over concentrated and can do damage if added to fuel tank.
Techron will do everything the AC Delco product does & more ~ safely at recommended dose rate.
Techron can also be aggressive to yellow metals etc in the fuel system if Dosage recommendations are exceeded. At recommended dosage it is totally safe.
It has also passed all of Benz' exhaustive testing & the product that is sold as an MB Part number.
Techron is the finest clean up & keep clean additive system on the market.
As I have said before BP's system get's closest to Techron performance
In the US, the ERG is putting lots of crude in to the air intake. Anything to clean the valves for direct injected engines?
Anything for a diesel with DPF?
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I certainly know whats in the cleaners. The older generations were polubutene amines & polyetheramines. The latest chemistry is not for public consumption. I would get shot & frankly you can't concoct it cheaply.
EGR & captive crankcase breathers make a mess. DI engines need proper design or an LP injector in the inlet like VAG Group does.
You need to be very careful not to mess with diesels with DPF. Adblue urea compounds are designed to work in conjunction with DPF/regeneration. If you screw up the unit you are in for a large bill. Techron Diesel is safe with DPF.
EGR & captive crankcase breathers make a mess. DI engines need proper design or an LP injector in the inlet like VAG Group does.
You need to be very careful not to mess with diesels with DPF. Adblue urea compounds are designed to work in conjunction with DPF/regeneration. If you screw up the unit you are in for a large bill. Techron Diesel is safe with DPF.
