Navish

I'm looking into getting some fuel treatment product for my E320, but cant decide between Techron or Lucas fuel treatment. What do you guys recommend, and is there anything else better than those?

Plutoe

Yes there is something better--------Don't waste your money----choose nothing!!

Honcho

Such a restrained reply, Plutoe! :-)

I noticed a line item on some dealer maint records for my E350 that says:

"ADD MOTOR OIL AND FUEL ADDITIVES FOR EFFICIENCY" and

under the parts sections:

EDIT: "MB CONCENTRAT" P/N 002-986-14-71-09 $7.35 <--- That's Windshield washer fluid! Can't find anything listed that is the "SECRET ADDITIVE" ;-) Sorry

So I'm guessing that's a dealer sham.

Flash Gordon

Go to the website of toptiergas.com and you will see a list of gasoline retailers that meet the stringent specs of top tier gas. I first read about this in Motor Trend. This has been an eye opener for me! These retailers that meet the specs use a lot more additives to keep fuel system and engine clean. In my area, I am sticking with BP and Costco because they are cheaper than EXXON and Shell.

americanyankee

Hello Guys:


My brother is a long haul truck driver and swears by Lucas oil.
He had a Chev S10 with over 300,000 KL. on it which still ran great. His mechanic asked him what he uses in his engine and told him to keep using it.


He got me convinced about five years ago, and I use it faithfully every time I fill up.


I pour about two ounces in gas tank every fill-up..


Hope this helps.


Cheers

dave2001auto

From www.toptiergas.com/deposit_control there's 8.0 to 10.0% ethanol for top teir gas?
Ethanol was the original anti-knock compound but it could not be patented, so a highly toxic substance was used with a patent. I would like less ethanol to kept my older cars running well.
My cars have had a reduced mpg for the last few years. Getting old or just less energy with the newer gas in So. Cal?

MagCL

Just use Techron, this is what most benz and bimmer owners are using,, can't go wrong with it. I put a bottle in at every oil change.

americanyankee

Worth a try. Where do you purchase from?? Sounds like a Chevron product

MagCL

Yah it's a chevron product. I assume by your username that you live in the US ??? Pep boys, advance auto parts, walmart, amazon.com etc.

americanyankee

[QUOTE=MagCL;6043530]Yah it's a chevron product. I assume by your username that you live in the US ??? Pep boys, advance auto parts, walmart, amazon.com etc.[/QUOTE


Thanks for your reply:






I am American, but live on the Canadian West Coast. However, we do have Chevron stations here.


Most of the stations are Petro Canada, Esso (AKA Exxon).


Been filling up at Petro Canada, but will switch to Chevron , so I can start using Techron. Looking forward to trying out new product.


Cheers

Glyn M Ruck

Techron & the equivalent BASF product are the only Benz approved treatments. Techron is unsurpassed. BP makes the closest performer to Techron but not as good on combustion chamber deposits.

americanyankee

OK Great!!! That's what this site is all about .to learn ,and help each other out.


Definitely switching to TECHRON.

dave2001auto

Sometimes available in 3 bottle packages at Costco.
There was another product years ago, that really cleaned out the valves and essentially everthing along the combustion line, but release tons of smoke and needed to change oil after using it. Worked wonders on car, but they removed it from the market in CA and then other states. Anybody remember the name of the product? Not SeaFoam. May of been a GM product.

americanyankee

My brother on the east coast was just telling about a GM fuel cleaner .


He says it works really good. Don't remember the name though , but he says it is avail at GM parts.


Still going to try out Techron first though.

Honcho

I'm not one to drink the Kool-Aid, but..... I just bought a six pack of Techron 20oz bottles. I'll report back in a month or two about anything noticeable.

I should mention that I'm a "defensively aggressive" driver :-) TG for my Escort 9500ix and the fact that the boys in blue drive around with their radar running.... and damn that one that got the new laser toy!

americanyankee

LOL about your RADAR!!!


Reel nice looking wheels!!!!


Come on Frenchie!!!! Drink the KOOL AID!

Honcho

Thank you kindly! I'm not french though... Proud to be American, from Italian born grandparents.... (A little German and Irish in there from mom's side too)

BTW... my car doesn't scream (or even whisper?) "Give me a ticket, I can afford it." Does it? I need to come up with some patter in case I get pulled over. ;-)

rediesel

I always use an additive. Probably count the times I've skipped it at fillup on one hand.

I use the Power Service Diesel Supplement (white bottle) in the winter to prevent gelling, and the Lucas injector cleaner in the summer. I've used the lucas in other gas cars too.

Glyn M Ruck

A member's nice clean valves running Techron. The black area further up the manifold is upstream of the injectors where the fuel can't get to clean.

americanyankee

For now, I will stick with Lucas injector cleaner. Techron seems to be not available where I live. Went to Chevron to fill up and was told that they can't get it anymore.


I bought some more Lucas Injector cleaner instead. Will look for Techron in June . Going to fly to New Hampsire to visit family.


Cheers

Honcho

I bought it on amazon.com

I think anyone can get there ;-)

americanyankee

Yeah sounds like the way to go.. Any idea why it is so hard to get?


Cheers

dave2001auto

Are you putting the cleaner in the gas tank or through the PVC valve?
Is the new GM top engine cleaner that same as the old pre-2002 formulation? Any poor man's alternative?

Glyn M Ruck

This is running on Techron fuel with the odd addition of Concentrate to the tank.

I come from a Supermajor Oilco & have been testing in-fuel additives for over 30 years.

I don't like the GM top of engine & injector cleaner as it requires injection into the rail pre injectors. It is over concentrated and can do damage if added to fuel tank.

Techron will do everything the AC Delco product does & more ~ safely at recommended dose rate.

Techron can also be aggressive to yellow metals etc in the fuel system if Dosage recommendations are exceeded. At recommended dosage it is totally safe.

It has also passed all of Benz' exhaustive testing & the product that is sold as an MB Part number.

Techron is the finest clean up & keep clean additive system on the market.

As I have said before BP's system get's closest to Techron performance

dave2001auto

Do you know what's in the cleaners? Any home brew receipes?
In the US, the ERG is putting lots of crude in to the air intake. Anything to clean the valves for direct injected engines?

Anything for a diesel with DPF?