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Old Jan 30, 2016 | 11:32 PM
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How has everyone that's installed one of these Android units found the radio to work afterwards? I'm debating one for a 2007 W211 as the stock setup is a bit dated and lacking backup camera and such.

I've got a unit similar to this (Quad core 4.4.4) in an Audi TT. I've also got a standard double din version (Quad core 4.4.4) from Joying in a Ford truck. In both cases, the FM radio reception isn't nearly as good as the stock units they replaced. Is that the case with this as well?
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 11:33 AM
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My bypass cable has connectors for brake and reverse. Should these be left open or should I loop the connectors?
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by edo75
If you have fiber optic system you need 6 mt extension / bypass cable and usually every seller have it available. In this case you new radio unit will work directly with the speakers and OEM amplifier will not work anymore (together with OEM navigation).
Usually every aftermarket radio comes with can bus in order to retain steering controls.
I checked the unit you have been looking at. Cool! I suggest you to contact the seller to ask for info about connection and if they have available for their radio unit 6 mt extension / bypass cable.
I'm planning to finish (hopefully) installation during this weekend.
I'll keep you posted
I'm still a little lost... if I am going to put in a new headunit and new amplifier why do I still need the 6m fiber optic bypass cable? Can I simply just remove the stock amp run cables to the new amp and tap into the speaker wires that were going to the original fiber optic amp? Sorry if this is a noob question but when I read the turorial by the op it shows him bypassing the factory amp with the fiber optic cable and also wiring his new amp and am not sure why the factory amp is still necessary if you are bypassing it and putting in your own amp....
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dnasty
I'm still a little lost... if I am going to put in a new headunit and new amplifier why do I still need the 6m fiber optic bypass cable? Can I simply just remove the stock amp run cables to the new amp and tap into the speaker wires that were going to the original fiber optic amp? Sorry if this is a noob question but when I read the turorial by the op it shows him bypassing the factory amp with the fiber optic cable and also wiring his new amp and am not sure why the factory amp is still necessary if you are bypassing it and putting in your own amp....
Hi,

That cable carries, speaker, power, ground, CANBUS and a few others.

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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NubyIz
Hi,

That cable carries, speaker, power, ground, CANBUS and a few others.

Cheers
Ok I'm sure this will all become obvious when I look at the amp etc. but once I run the bypass stuff can I remove the stock amp and sit my after market one I there? Or does the stock need to stay for some reason.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dnasty
Ok I'm sure this will all become obvious when I look at the amp etc. but once I run the bypass stuff can I remove the stock amp and sit my after market one I there? Or does the stock need to stay for some reason.
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Original Headunit (obvious)
CD Changer (best remove BEFORE disconnecting anything else)
AMP
NAV computer/DVD

can all be removed.

Mine are all disconnected (no power) and everything works.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NubyIz
Hi,

Original Headunit (obvious)
CD Changer (best remove BEFORE disconnecting anything else)
AMP
NAV computer/DVD

can all be removed.

Mine are all disconnected (no power) and everything works.
Ok mabye I'm getting ahead of myself but does the motor function still work on the disk changer. If so I'd like to turn it into a little stash area.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 11:31 PM
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Motorized pocket no longer works. You can pay $$$ and get a NTG2.5 'video in motion' adapter that also makes the pocket work correctly, but it's pretty pricy just for that one feature.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 11:32 PM
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Not without some changes I assume.
Thats why it is best to remove the changer before disconnecting anything.
Havent explored further.
I have actually left everthing in place except HU, just disconnected in case I want to go back

EDIT: Maybe I will use my oscilloscope to figure out how they operate the CD changer tray.. but might be some time.

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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NubyIz
Not without some changes I assume.
Thats why it is best to remove the changer before disconnecting anything.
Havent explored further.
I have actually left everthing in place except HU, just disconnected in case I want to go back

EDIT: Maybe I will use my oscilloscope to figure out how they operate the CD changer tray.. but might be some time.
I saw some video a while back where some guy made a fiber optic loop with a cable and it allowed it to continue working
... Is there any full tutuorial to doing this including pulling up the carpets etc.. I would take it to the shop and pay the guy but I think I may want to do this myself if not just for the experience but incase I end up getting some chinese head unit that doens't work right and I end up racking up labor fees.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 09:24 PM
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Does everyone's Bluetooth sound horrible on the other end of the line? Can we take a survey on that? Mine sucks
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 11:57 PM
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Does everyone's Bluetooth sound horrible on the other end of the line? Can we take a survey on that? Mine sucks
Yes known problem. See the faq on XDA
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 05:01 AM
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One thing I was wondering about your setup... You ran hi/low converters from the speaker wire in the back then converted it to rca and plugged it into your amp for the input correct? Then spliced that very same wire to run it to the speaker outputs of the amp (hopefully I am understanding this correct)? Why not just run the rca's directly from the headunit to the new amp itself and still tap into the speaker wires at the boot, futhermore why not use a 6 channel amp if there are six channels we are dealing with. I feel like i'm missing something key here no disrespect intended i'm sure you have your reasons for doing this setup this way I just want to understand them better as I plan to do this as soon as I can order one of these units (chinese new year). Also where do you find that splitter box you mention.

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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 08:26 AM
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Does everyone's Bluetooth sound horrible on the other end of the line? Can we take a survey on that? Mine sucks
That's one of the reasons I'm holding off on this. I'm not convinced of the quality overall, especially for the price.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 08:20 PM
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That's one of the reasons I'm holding off on this. I'm not convinced of the quality overall, especially for the price.
Everything is great except for the Bluetooth. I have to make a decision now to let it go or open it up and do some electronic surgery. The thing is I have no idea what I'm doing I have no experience soldering things ect. If I break it I suppose I could always just upgrade to the new 9 inch version? Because the six-foot bypass cable and aftermarket amp or already installed and ready to go for the latest head unit
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 10:29 PM
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Where are you guys getting the six foot bypass cable?
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 11:15 PM
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I just picked up my '03 e320 today, and was a little frustrated to realize I had the Audio 50. No Aux jack in sight, with no possibility. All I wanted to do is stream music from my phone to the head unit, but without an ability to do so I'll be looking at installing an aftermarket HU. These android HUs look awesome! Is it possible to swap my Audio 50 for one of these without swapping amps and still get reasonably decent sound?

I don't need all the apps necessarily as I won't be using 4g plan for the car. I'd like to have the ability to add nav/gps down the road, but I realize that's more trouble than it's probably worth. This thread has been immensely helpful already. Thanks guys!

EDIT: For clarity, I don't seem to have the branded HK speakers, but Logic 7 is an option in my sound profiles... there's so many options available for these cars that the combinations seem endless!
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 11:16 PM
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Everything is great except for the Bluetooth. I have to make a decision now to let it go or open it up and do some electronic surgery. The thing is I have no idea what I'm doing I have no experience soldering things ect. If I break it I suppose I could always just upgrade to the new 9 inch version? Because the six-foot bypass cable and aftermarket amp or already installed and ready to go for the latest head unit
Again, just holding off for now because for a similar price I can get a Pioneer unit that has both Android Auto and CarPlay without sacrificing quality on any aspect. I've also considered installing a unit running Ubuntu Mobile which can be achieved in a couple of different ways and gives me almost limitless functionality.
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by marc hanna
Again, just holding off for now because for a similar price I can get a Pioneer unit that has both Android Auto and CarPlay without sacrificing quality on any aspect. I've also considered installing a unit running Ubuntu Mobile which can be achieved in a couple of different ways and gives me almost limitless functionality.
With that unit do you still plan to bypass the factory amp? I'm trying to figure out what I want to do with my setup... so many options on these cars.
Just out of curiosity what does this do? https://avinusa.com/mercedes-most-interface.html Claims to allow you to use factory fiber amp but it seems really cheap and too good to be true.

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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 08:35 AM
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I just have the base audio in mine, so the amp bypass is a non-issue.

I saw that Avin amp interface too, but didn't give it any further thought because it didn't apply to me.
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Toastr
I just picked up my '03 e320 today, and was a little frustrated to realize I had the Audio 50. No Aux jack in sight, with no possibility. All I wanted to do is stream music from my phone to the head unit, but without an ability to do so I'll be looking at installing an aftermarket HU. These android HUs look awesome! Is it possible to swap my Audio 50 for one of these without swapping amps and still get reasonably decent sound?

I don't need all the apps necessarily as I won't be using 4g plan for the car. I'd like to have the ability to add nav/gps down the road, but I realize that's more trouble than it's probably worth. This thread has been immensely helpful already. Thanks guys!

EDIT: For clarity, I don't seem to have the branded HK speakers, but Logic 7 is an option in my sound profiles... there's so many options available for these cars that the combinations seem endless!
Hi,
Yes they will work as replacement for your head unit.
You will NOT need the 6m (not feet as incorrectly mentioned) bypass cable.
Did that for a guy who bought my 2nd unit for his 2005 e350.
They usually come with iGo offline maps.. GPS antenna coming with it is a bit weak, as your car wouldnt have a build in one.
In this guys car we wedged it under the dash somewhere, works.

Cheers
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by marc hanna
I just have the base audio in mine, so the amp bypass is a non-issue.

I saw that Avin amp interface too, but didn't give it any further thought because it didn't apply to me.
I'm actually still not sure if I have fiber optics I've just assumed it. Does this mean I have fiber optics amp.. (harmon kardon is not written anywhere inside my car).




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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 02:48 PM
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Looks like NTG1, you likely have the an optical cable to an Amp in the boot.
Best to check.
Remove rear left felt panel in boot.
You will see a stack with DVD (for NAV) etc.
Behind that is a vertical metal divider rising from the wheel arch.
The Amp should be behind that in turn.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/atta...0-bose-amp.jpg
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NubyIz
Looks like NTG1, you likely have the an optical cable to an Amp in the boot.
Best to check.
Remove rear left felt panel in boot.
You will see a stack with DVD (for NAV) etc.
Behind that is a vertical metal divider rising from the wheel arch.
The Amp should be behind that in turn.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/atta...0-bose-amp.jpg
Ok... sorry if this is a dumb question but is there a way to access that boot area i've never done it before and I don't want to rip anything. Also the car came with a nav dvd that goes in the front head unit would it still have a nav dvd in the boot as well? Lastly is there an easy way to access that back boot area I don't want to rip up anything it's my first time dealing with this car. I would like to be able to keep the electronic functions active on the cd changer if possible too I heard there is a way to do this with some sort of fiber optic loop.
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dnasty
Ok... sorry if this is a dumb question but is there a way to access that boot area i've never done it before and I don't want to rip anything. Also the car came with a nav dvd that goes in the front head unit would it still have a nav dvd in the boot as well? Lastly is there an easy way to access that back boot area I don't want to rip up anything it's my first time dealing with this car. I would like to be able to keep the electronic functions active on the cd changer if possible too I heard there is a way to do this with some sort of fiber optic loop.
Hi,
If you are not comfortable in removing panels this could be a bit out of your league, maybe find a friend who has experience installing radios?
To install you would need to remove gearshift, ashtray, radio.
If the 6m cable is required also rear left panel, rear centre panel, carpet in passenger side and behind passenger, rear seat and back
It is not complicated if you know what you are doing, but could be a bit much if you feel uncomfortable.

Also consider the new 9inch units, no feedback yet as to how they are.

The best you can hope for is keep the CD changer slot as a spare slot.
It does not connect to the 7 inch unit, suspect also not the 9 inch unit.

If you know someone who can assist you could remove the radio and post picture of the back and possible open rear panel and check for Amp.
If not suggest better leave as is, might not be for you.

Depends on you comfort level really.
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