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Yet another W211 with a SBC failure

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Old 01-05-2016, 11:51 PM
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That's sure but the hard drive is for D630, you may need to update drivers or have to deal with other issues, since the D630 without hard drive is really cheap on eBay and for sure will work for STAR, why not go with the easiest and least expensive solution?
Yeah that is the reason I plan to get the D630 don't want any problems.
Old 01-06-2016, 10:29 PM
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Go to ebay and search for Dell D630 without hard drive, they are only about $50 and will be perfect for your need.

Why not get a C4? I was told it's more reliable than C3.
At the time only I was only able to find the C3 to offer developer that lets me reset the SBC pump and authenticate a new one.
Old 01-24-2016, 12:32 PM
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OK just wanted to give an update I am still going to get my SBC done I finally got my Star tool working properly for my SBC. I will hopefully get this done soon and make a new thread on what needs to be done. Here is the Multiplexer hooked up to me Dell D630 running the code for me.




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What is your actual values?
I trying to confirm that 500,000 brake actuation is the set limit, but nobody would confirm it one way or the other.
I had 460k month ago and wonder how fast I need to get my checkbook ready.

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Old 01-24-2016, 01:55 PM
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What is the fault text Jeff? I cannot see it properly in the pic. But it does not look like a service threshold reached fault.... As far as your 500 000 brake applications go. There are more factors and a formulae involved to calculate the service limit.
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Ok Jeff I see the fault. Pressure resivour faulty! You can replace that separately. Not cheap but probably half the price of a new unit
Old 01-24-2016, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kajtek1
What is your actual values?
I trying to confirm that 500,000 brake actuation is the set limit, but nobody would confirm it one way or the other.
I had 460k month ago and wonder how fast I need to get my checkbook ready.
Depends on what version your SBC is running.
Otherwise here is mine I think you are fine.

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Originally Posted by Russell Ormerod
Ok Jeff I see the fault. Pressure resivour faulty! You can replace that separately. Not cheap but probably half the price of a new unit
I know I just wanted to replace the whole thing since I got a discount on buying the whole part, I don't want to worry about anything else.
Old 01-24-2016, 02:04 PM
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True. Probably best to replace it complete I do agree there. That actual value is pump cycle not brake applications. Go into development data. Actuations. Look for bremszahler (DJ live time) I think it is.
There you will see your pedal applications
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Originally Posted by Russell Ormerod
There are more factors and a formulae involved to calculate the service limit.
Russell;

What are the factors and what is the formula used? My 06 has close to 230k actuations at 89k miles. I was going to have the SBC replaced when I reached 100k miles just for peace of mind.

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Originally Posted by CDIJeff
Depends on what version your SBC is running.
Otherwise here is mine I think you are fine.

This is pump cycle, what I have at 12 millions, but it is brake pedal pushes that suppose to be crucial count.
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It's not the brake pedal actuation, it's the solenoids in the SBC unit. An actuation includes any solenoid triggered on any wheel in any situation. Acceleration, braking, ice, snow, all of these trigger the count.
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Pump cycle time is also used. And revolutions of pump. Just hook it up to star and check under general servicing. There the checks are automatically done for you.
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OK, I have been gone for a bit trying to figure out this SBC unit. The old SBC unit is out the new one is in. Now I am just trying to figure out how to program the new one with work. Since I can't just activate it in Xentry, it wont let me. All I find online when I search is how to reset the counter. Trying to find out if anyone has a write-up or a by book on how to do this. Anytime I try to connect to the SBC unit it tells me Communication fault with control unit sbc.

All the fiscal work is done now just the computer part.

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Have you fitted a brand new unit? Is there a menu item called initial start up?
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Originally Posted by Russell Ormerod
Have you fitted a brand new unit? Is there a menu item called initial start up?
Yes brand new from Mercedes, there is a initial start up, however it goes into activate sbc then right back into the first error. Also if I click any of the other options from SBC menu it also gives me a error. Something tells me I need Mercedes online to program this which I don't have. However no one has any information on this.







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Are there any fault codes in SBC or ESP
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It should not give that error even without online access
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Originally Posted by Russell Ormerod
Are there any fault codes in SBC or ESP
Good thing you told me to check, SBC has no fault codes however ESP does. That info helps. Now to figure out what to do from here.

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You possibly have the incorrect SBC unit
Usually ESP will show a CAN communication error with SBC. Order according to VIN! Let MB parts double check that number
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Originally Posted by Russell Ormerod
You possibly have the incorrect SBC unit
Usually ESP will show a CAN communication error with SBC. Order according to VIN! Let MB parts double check that number
I bought it from eEuroparts then they told me it was matched to my vin. When I google the error all I get is forms saying to copy the eprom from the old SBC to the new one. No idea how to do that.
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Does the part number differ from your original? I would call mb and find the correct part number. If you had to copy eeprom contents you may also transfer the original fault of the service life.
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Originally Posted by Russell Ormerod
Does the part number differ from your original? I would call mb and find the correct part number. If you had to copy eeprom contents you may also transfer the original fault of the service life.
Here is the photos of the old and the new one.




old sbc





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package it came in
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Different numbers. Hw and Sw versions also differ. I Reckon call mb..
Give me your Vin I will look on Epc tomorrow at work
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Originally Posted by Russell Ormerod
Different numbers. Hw and Sw versions also differ. I Reckon call mb..
Give me your Vin I will look on Epc tomorrow at work
Sent to private message thanks for your help so far.


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