2008 e350 4matic
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2003 CLK500, 2008 e350
2008 e350 4matic
Should the transfer case oil be changed on a 2008 e350 4matic? I purchased the car used and it currently has 125K miles. I don't know if the transfer case oil has ever been changed.
Also, this car has the 722.6 5-speed transmission. I'm going to get the transmission fluid changed also. Does tranny have the same "conductor plate" issues that the earlier 722.6 trannys had?
thanx
Also, this car has the 722.6 5-speed transmission. I'm going to get the transmission fluid changed also. Does tranny have the same "conductor plate" issues that the earlier 722.6 trannys had?
thanx
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I think transfer case is consider lifetime filled, so this is personal decision to change oil.
722.6 Transmissions initially were "filled for life" as well, but later on MB changed the policy.
There are several levels of servicing those transmissions. The best IMHO is drain the fluid, wipe the pan clean, what is the most important part IMHO, let it drip overnight and refill with about 4l of ATF. Important part is new pilot bushing.
722.6 Transmissions initially were "filled for life" as well, but later on MB changed the policy.
There are several levels of servicing those transmissions. The best IMHO is drain the fluid, wipe the pan clean, what is the most important part IMHO, let it drip overnight and refill with about 4l of ATF. Important part is new pilot bushing.
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2003 CLK500, 2008 e350
I think transfer case is consider lifetime filled, so this is personal decision to change oil.
722.6 Transmissions initially were "filled for life" as well, but later on MB changed the policy.
There are several levels of servicing those transmissions. The best IMHO is drain the fluid, wipe the pan clean, what is the most important part IMHO, let it drip overnight and refill with about 4l of ATF. Important part is new pilot bushing.
722.6 Transmissions initially were "filled for life" as well, but later on MB changed the policy.
There are several levels of servicing those transmissions. The best IMHO is drain the fluid, wipe the pan clean, what is the most important part IMHO, let it drip overnight and refill with about 4l of ATF. Important part is new pilot bushing.
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If there is fluid in a vehicle component, there should always be a way to change out the fluid at some point. At no point would I ever consider any fluid to last the lifetime of any vehicle. Fluid + moving parts = wear & potential leaks.
Yes I would change out the fluid or have someone change it for you.
Yes I would change out the fluid or have someone change it for you.
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My conclusion to "sealed for life" idea is that when the 722.6 was design back in early 1990's not too many cars would be on the road for 10 years and 100,000 miles was considered "retirement time" for most of the vehicles.
I think MB surprised itself with fact that those W210 are on the road 20 years later and some of them reached 1/2 million miles.
But anyway, seems they revised the idea and the converter drain plugs that were deleted about year 2000, come back in 2008.
Still lot of owners made 200,000 miles on factory ATF and seems the deteriorating orings on pilot bushing are often wrongly interpret for bad conductor plate or TCU.
Have to rub the deal I strike couple years ago on convertible SL500. The car was in limp and at 190,000 miles all shops wanted to replace the transmission.
Young seller got desperate and was asking $1500 for it. Since the car also had misfire on 1 cylinder, I bargained the price to $1300 and drove 26 miles home on 2nd gear.
Later the $10 pilot bushing, some ATF, new gasket/filter clear the transmission codes.
Replaced ignition coil, put new plugs and with new motor mounts the engine is so smooth, that you can put stacks of sockets on it and they will stay.
So when shops would take in the range of $5000, with some know-how and getting my hands dirty I was able to bring to perfection for less than $100
I think MB surprised itself with fact that those W210 are on the road 20 years later and some of them reached 1/2 million miles.
But anyway, seems they revised the idea and the converter drain plugs that were deleted about year 2000, come back in 2008.
Still lot of owners made 200,000 miles on factory ATF and seems the deteriorating orings on pilot bushing are often wrongly interpret for bad conductor plate or TCU.
Have to rub the deal I strike couple years ago on convertible SL500. The car was in limp and at 190,000 miles all shops wanted to replace the transmission.
Young seller got desperate and was asking $1500 for it. Since the car also had misfire on 1 cylinder, I bargained the price to $1300 and drove 26 miles home on 2nd gear.
Later the $10 pilot bushing, some ATF, new gasket/filter clear the transmission codes.
Replaced ignition coil, put new plugs and with new motor mounts the engine is so smooth, that you can put stacks of sockets on it and they will stay.
So when shops would take in the range of $5000, with some know-how and getting my hands dirty I was able to bring to perfection for less than $100
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There huge difference between "sealed for life" and "change ATF every 40k miles" so looks like MB engineers are eating their foot.
Still the manuals don't explain what is consider "oil change". Since some of those transmissions don't have converter plugs, you can only drain about 30% of oil in quick change.
Even the pan plug sits on high flange that will leave about 1/2 liter of dirt at the bottom. Than again, no mention about pilot bushing change, what seems to be crucial part of service.
Still the manuals don't explain what is consider "oil change". Since some of those transmissions don't have converter plugs, you can only drain about 30% of oil in quick change.
Even the pan plug sits on high flange that will leave about 1/2 liter of dirt at the bottom. Than again, no mention about pilot bushing change, what seems to be crucial part of service.
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