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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 01:42 PM
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Hey guys so I have a problem with AC, but the problem is that on very hot days the AC is blowing too cold! Even if you set the temperature to max (HI) it’s super cold.



I’ve managed to locate that AC module sees about 97oC signal from OCP and 23oC from dash sensor.



Going to the OCP module, the sensor itself senses good temperature. Confirmed it with diagnostic and physically. Something is wrong with the communication between these two modules, does anyone have a diagram?



Could this be a coding issue in central gateway? Since last owner manage to uncode all Central Gateway car options, I did try and fix that up, but not sure if I missed something.


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Interesting for sure.

I’ve read somewhere you can access live parameters through the ac controls itself? Maybe I should check the temperatures there?

Are there any reset procedures for the AC unit/or it’s flaps?
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If its the same as the W219, then maybe just swap out the thermistor? Its an easy job and the thermistors cost next to nothing. Mine was broken (broken wire)

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Originally Posted by nd-photo.nl
If its the same as the W219, then maybe just swap out the thermistor? Its an easy job and the thermistors cost next to nothing. Mine was broken (broken wire)

Here it's NOT one of the usual issues. CGW configuration was altered.
The overhead temp sensor reads well in OCP but AAC module is not picking that up.

Intead a default temp of 97F is assumed by AAC.

Are there any other faults on CAN-B that may prevent AAC from reading OCP ?

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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
Here it's NOT one of the usual issues. CGW configuration was altered.
The overhead temp sensor reads well in OCP but AAC module is not picking that up.

Intead a default temp of 97F is assumed by AAC.

Are there any other faults on CAN-B that may prevent AAC from reading OCP ?

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Exactly, I don’t understand maybe my diagnostic tool just cannot interpret the value the AC module is seeing, and I am thinking that something is wrong or the AC module just does not see OPC values.

Inside OPC module I am getting a good reading from the thermistor.

As I mentioned the Central module was uncoded, I did code it successfully, unless I missed an option or two, have not really found anywhere explaining all the options that are avaible to code, but it seemed straightforward.

I have replaced heater valve a month ago with an aftermarket one, so going to swap it with OEM one this week, since this is usually the culprit.

As I mentioned problem occurs when it is really hot outside (+30oC) and the air conditioning is overfreezing the cabin, to the point I have to turn it off. In the mornings, when it’s about +15oC I do manage to get some heating in the cabin.

I am wondering is there a sheet explaining all Central module options more in-depth?

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Originally Posted by Edvinac
Exactly, I don’t understand maybe my diagnostic tool just cannot interpret the value the AC module is seeing, and I am thinking that something is wrong or the AC module just does not see OPC values.

Inside OPC module I am getting a good reading from the thermistor.

As I mentioned the Central module was uncoded, I did code it successfully, unless I missed an option or two, have not really found anywhere explaining all the options that are avaible to code, but it seemed straightforward.

I have replaced heater valve a month ago with an aftermarket one, so going to swap it with OEM one this week, since this is usually the culprit.

As I mentioned problem occurs when it is really hot outside (+30oC) and the air conditioning is overfreezing the cabin, to the point I have to turn it off. In the mornings, when it’s about +15oC I do manage to get some heating in the cabin.

I am wondering is there a sheet explaining all Central module options more in-depth?
Yes that's possible...
you can dig in deeper yourself into this using proprietary documents provided by the WIS system.

I would focus on A/C module
your OCP sensor is working well.

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Originally Posted by CaliBenzDriver
Yes that's possible...
you can dig in deeper yourself into this using proprietary documents provided by the WIS system.

I would focus on A/C module
your OCP sensor is working well.
Have not managed to download WIS yet, but was thinking about it.. I have yet to acquire a good external disk, how much space does it take, and any good resources for the download?
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I dont know about that besides this is an expensive proprietary software tool licensed to professional mechanic shops.
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