Why delay in 2012 model deliveries?
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Why delay in 2012 model deliveries?
My dealer can only tell me that the anticipated end of July deliveries for tourist and dealer deliveries are delayed until October. He has no word on any specific date.
Has anyone heard anything as to why the delay?
Has anyone heard anything as to why the delay?
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There is no delay. 2011 year just started. Mercedes usually changes models in the summer only if there are some major changes, otherwise they replace model year late in the Fall..
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Then, why did my dealer show tourist deliveries, in the schedule from MBUSA beginning in July several months ago and now they have removed the July dates and not put in others?
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I guess, your dealership made a mistake...
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You still can make European delivery, but for 2011 model year - not 2012, because 2012 models are only in the project. They are not planned for production yet. I don't think it will have any major changes in 2012 and I haven't heard about any issues or problems for 2011.
I guess, your dealership made a mistake...
I guess, your dealership made a mistake...
There is the start/stop feature where the engine is shut off at stops. There is an energy recovery feature where braking recharges the battery.
In short, there are considerable changes to the 2012 E-Class drivetrain.
It's my opinion that the delay in 2012's coming to the U.S. is due to problems with the relatively poor U.S. fuel quality. I remember when BMW had to replace a lot of V8 short blocks because of problems caused by high sulfur south american fuel sold by some discount outlets in the U.S.
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There are completely new direct injection engines including a bi-turbo V8 and a 60 degree V6. There is a new 7G transmission for the V8. There is also a 1.8 liter four cylinder gasoline engine and a 2.2 liter four cylinder diesel engine.
There is the start/stop feature where the engine is shut off at stops. There is an energy recovery feature where braking recharges the battery.
In short, there are considerable changes to the 2012 E-Class drivetrain.
It's my opinion that the delay in 2012's coming to the U.S. is due to problems with the relatively poor U.S. fuel quality. I remember when BMW had to replace a lot of V8 short blocks because of problems caused by high sulfur south american fuel sold by some discount outlets in the U.S.
There is the start/stop feature where the engine is shut off at stops. There is an energy recovery feature where braking recharges the battery.
In short, there are considerable changes to the 2012 E-Class drivetrain.
It's my opinion that the delay in 2012's coming to the U.S. is due to problems with the relatively poor U.S. fuel quality. I remember when BMW had to replace a lot of V8 short blocks because of problems caused by high sulfur south american fuel sold by some discount outlets in the U.S.
The same applied to 2011 S-Class. The new power train is tested on 2011 CL, but S-Class still uses the old technology..
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What are the sources of your information? It's someone else's logical guess, but it just a prediction. Mercedes-Benz has to test all this new technology on limited production models like CLS and SLK, before they make major move on the high volume E-Class. If anything goes wrong on the E - this will be a huge headache, while very small problem for example with CLS. 2011 E-Class uses time-proven trouble free technology, so they will think twice before making a move, because they don't want to repeat the disaster of 2003-2004.
The same applied to 2011 S-Class. The new power train is tested on 2011 CL, but S-Class still uses the old technology..
The same applied to 2011 S-Class. The new power train is tested on 2011 CL, but S-Class still uses the old technology..
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There are completely new direct injection engines including a bi-turbo V8 and a 60 degree V6. There is a new 7G transmission for the V8. There is also a 1.8 liter four cylinder gasoline engine and a 2.2 liter four cylinder diesel engine.
There is the start/stop feature where the engine is shut off at stops. There is an energy recovery feature where braking recharges the battery.
In short, there are considerable changes to the 2012 E-Class drivetrain.
It's my opinion that the delay in 2012's coming to the U.S. is due to problems with the relatively poor U.S. fuel quality. I remember when BMW had to replace a lot of V8 short blocks because of problems caused by high sulfur south american fuel sold by some discount outlets in the U.S.
There is the start/stop feature where the engine is shut off at stops. There is an energy recovery feature where braking recharges the battery.
In short, there are considerable changes to the 2012 E-Class drivetrain.
It's my opinion that the delay in 2012's coming to the U.S. is due to problems with the relatively poor U.S. fuel quality. I remember when BMW had to replace a lot of V8 short blocks because of problems caused by high sulfur south american fuel sold by some discount outlets in the U.S.
But if you did find it somewhere I would like to see it because I will be shopping for a new CLS or E this summer.
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I don’t know where you got all this information from because the last time I checked there has been no info released on the 2012 E-class... (None... Zip... Zero... Zilch… nil)
But if you did find it somewhere I would like to see it because I will be shopping for a new CLS or E this summer.
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But if you did find it somewhere I would like to see it because I will be shopping for a new CLS or E this summer.
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http://www.worldcarfans.com/11005072...o-and-35-liter
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Here's the Info on the new engines. Make sure the link for PRESS RELEASE is expanded.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11005072...o-and-35-liter
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11005072...o-and-35-liter
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If so then why delay the production of MY 2012 E-Class?
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The questions remain: 1. Will the MY 2012 E series in the US include both of the new engines? 2. What month can buyers take actual delivery of a new MY 12 E?
Two local dealers that i have talked with conflict with each other and have answered #1 yes and no. So apparently no body really knows for sure. I am betting the answer to #1 is yes and for #2 it will be Sept/Oct, but I am guessing. We need real info MBusa.
Two local dealers that i have talked with conflict with each other and have answered #1 yes and no. So apparently no body really knows for sure. I am betting the answer to #1 is yes and for #2 it will be Sept/Oct, but I am guessing. We need real info MBusa.
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So yes we know about the new engines.
And yes we think the 2012 E-class will have the new engines but there hasn’t been any official word to confirm this.
It is very doubtful that they won’t have the new engines because I can’t imagine Mercedes allowing the C350 to be more powerful the E350.
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2012 Mercedes-Benz E-Class: After a full redesign for 2010, look for the E-Class to get a minor update in 2011. The main upgrade will be the switch to a new 4.7-liter, twin-turbo V8 on the top-of-the-line model. Not only does it generate a healthy 435 hp, the new engine is expected to return even better mileage than the larger displacement V8 currently used in the E-Class. On base models, a new 3.5-liter V6 will be used that produces 306 hp and 273 pound-feet of torque.
2012 Mercedes-Benz E-Class: After a full redesign for 2010, look for the E-Class to get a minor update in 2011. The main upgrade will be the switch to a new 4.7-liter, twin-turbo V8 on the top-of-the-line model. Not only does it generate a healthy 435 hp, the new engine is expected to return even better mileage than the larger displacement V8 currently used in the E-Class. On base models, a new 3.5-liter V6 will be used that produces 306 hp and 273 pound-feet of torque.
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Very light on the torque bump - only 15. It reminds me of Audi V8s: 335-350 horses and only 317 tourque. MB's 500 V8 engine had 302 horses and a healthy 339 pound feet of torque.
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Mercedes-Benz E-Class
2012 Mercedes-Benz E-Class: After a full redesign for 2010, look for the E-Class to get a minor update in 2011. The main upgrade will be the switch to a new 4.7-liter, twin-turbo V8 on the top-of-the-line model. Not only does it generate a healthy 435 hp, the new engine is expected to return even better mileage than the larger displacement V8 currently used in the E-Class. On base models, a new 3.5-liter V6 will be used that produces 306 hp and 273 pound-feet of torque.
2012 Mercedes-Benz E-Class: After a full redesign for 2010, look for the E-Class to get a minor update in 2011. The main upgrade will be the switch to a new 4.7-liter, twin-turbo V8 on the top-of-the-line model. Not only does it generate a healthy 435 hp, the new engine is expected to return even better mileage than the larger displacement V8 currently used in the E-Class. On base models, a new 3.5-liter V6 will be used that produces 306 hp and 273 pound-feet of torque.
I don't think even MBUSA knows yet if they will replace engines! I think they will release 2012 CLS and wait and see what happens as far as public acceptance. Don't forget that new engines use twin turbo + direct injection. I bet it will be very loud!
As you know, majority of E-Class buyers don't even know what Torque or Turbo means. They don't really care. All they need is quite and comfortable means to get home with Benz Star on the hood. Loud acceleration, stiff steering etc... can turn off a lot of this type of customers toward Lexus or some others, so MBUSA has to be careful about updating the E.
Personally, I'm pretty sure that current naturally aspirated V6 and V8 are smoother, quiter and outlast any supercharged engine...
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I don't disagree except that the new V6 will have a 60 degree block which will replace the unbalanced 90 degree W272 V6 currently in production. Even with a balance shaft, the current engine won't be as smooth as the new engine. IMO, it's the most important change in the new engine. Otherwise, there isn't much wrong with the current port injected V6 which has been tuned for a flat torque curve at the expense of peak HP.
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As I already have a deposit down for a 2012 E-class and today I checked with my Sales person he is still anticipating delivery date of end of July or 1st week of Aug (regular schedule). He mentioned that nothing is out yet officially on MB's website that changes his view on the date.
He did say that information has been posted on 2012 slk, cls, cl and c class on dealers website.
He did say that information has been posted on 2012 slk, cls, cl and c class on dealers website.
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I hope your salesman is right but how can he take an order with no information on the car?
Have him check with the general manager or whoever went to the dealer meeting a couple weeks ago. It was in the presentation on slide 22 showing the launch dates for all models. The W212 date is shown as October.
Have him check with the general manager or whoever went to the dealer meeting a couple weeks ago. It was in the presentation on slide 22 showing the launch dates for all models. The W212 date is shown as October.
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Although information is out on the new 2012 cars (SLK, CLS), my dealer is still not able to place an order yet. I want to order a 2012 CLS. Any day now, I guess. But, not yet.
Any dealer who says they are ordering a 2012 for you is just making a note on paper, not an actual order.
Any dealer who says they are ordering a 2012 for you is just making a note on paper, not an actual order.
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babyjocko - You are correct, I gave the deposit to be the first one in line for the 2012 E-class and negotiated the price with the clause of availability of new v8 on E550
Dealer can not place an order until they have info. available on their internal MB website and as of now they do not have anything on E-class.
If it was not the sake of new v8 I would have gone with the 2011 E-class but with fuel savings, more HP and also looking at the depreciation side of the vehicle (few years from now I assume when people are looking for E550 they would want with the new v8 (4.6l))
PS - I am in Canada and talking about Canadian mercedes e-class
Dealer can not place an order until they have info. available on their internal MB website and as of now they do not have anything on E-class.
If it was not the sake of new v8 I would have gone with the 2011 E-class but with fuel savings, more HP and also looking at the depreciation side of the vehicle (few years from now I assume when people are looking for E550 they would want with the new v8 (4.6l))
PS - I am in Canada and talking about Canadian mercedes e-class
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Do the MY 2012 vehicles have a more powerful battery for running the electrical consumers during start/stop cycles or does it rely on the same capacity battery? Just curious if this is going to put more strain on a regular battery not necessarily designed for start stop powering operations. In slow city driving I can imagine this putting quite an extra strain on the battery so I hope they have a special high capacity battery to work with this feature.
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Do the MY 2012 vehicles have a more powerful battery for running the electrical consumers during start/stop cycles or does it rely on the same capacity battery? Just curious if this is going to put more strain on a regular battery not necessarily designed for start stop powering operations. In slow city driving I can imagine this putting quite an extra strain on the battery so I hope they have a special high capacity battery to work with this feature.
I've done some research and found that you can turn it on and off and I also assume that is must have changes to the battery along with the charging circuit.
The design supposedly uses braking for regeneration.
Frankly, the start/stop feature and other changes that could result in early problems with the 2012 MY including turbo-charging of the V8 drove me to order a new 2011 E550 which is being produced as I write this.
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Also, the 2012 CLS US version will also have this engine and its arrival is expected in July or so.
Are you certain that the 2012 E is slated to have these new engines? If so, then you can relax. Its time will come when it comes, but not delayed due to some bad gas rumor.
