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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 01:12 AM
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What's a good mileage range for 2014 CPO?

I'm looking at Luxury CPO E350s, which means my options are fairly limited. Specifically, I'm torn between a couple of cars that have between 8,000-12,000 miles, but are basically strippers--no P1 package, no harmon/kardon, only base audio, which I don't really think I would be happy with. Then there are a couple others that have between 18,000 and 20,000 miles with the h/k. All are 2014s, so 2 years old. I've never bought CPO before—assuming correct maintenance (and the Carfax reports look good), is there any durability/longevity reason to go with the very low mileage stripper car? FWIW, I won't be putting high miles on the car myself. Probably about 7,000 per year.

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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 08:12 AM
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IMHO go with the higher mileage cars equipped as you desire. The relatively small difference in mileage should be of no concern. All 2014 CPO cars have the balance of the original 4 year/50,000 mile warranty plus another year and unlimited mileage warranty added to that. A good Carfax report and evidence that the proper maintenance has been done are the factors to consider. Both should be good with a CPO car, but check anyway. As to the expiration date of the original warranty, the Carfax report will have that information. Good luck.
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 08:52 AM
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+1. Get the options you want. I don't see that point of getting a luxury car that is this expensive to maintain if it doesn't have the options you want. You'll regret it.

Since you don't drive that much a year you shouldn't worry about high miles on these cars - you won't get there. And the unlimited mileage feature of the CPO is not as much a benefit to you. So you should focus more on time left on original warranty if repair coverage is important to you. CPO adds a year to that and then you can extend for 2 more years. If you get a non-CPO there are warranty extension options that can give you just as much time added or possibly more. In your case, I would definitely look at higher mileage to save $ and get the options you want with later build date in 2014 or even 2015 (if there are any).
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 04:30 PM
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Yeah, I have an older W211 and I like all the options that I got on it, keyless go, parktronic, bixenons (gone from 2014 but you can still get curve illumination), pano roof, power trunk closer, real leather. There are also some rare options like distronics which you hardly ever see. I don't think the mileage will really matter from your perspective aside from a resale perspective. After a certain point, you can't really get top dollar no matter how low the mileage is. In terms of reliablity, W212 seem pretty solid so far so no need to shoot for the lowest mileage.
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 04:35 PM
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According to KBB, people average something like 12k-15k miles a year. So a 2-year old car with 25k miles is average. Also definitely don't settle for something without the P2 package.
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 05:29 PM
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Thanks everyone. I also just found an E with 13,000 miles and Premium, so that solves both my problems at once. Not my first choice dealer, but unless the car doesn't check out (so far so good), that's probably the one.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 09:37 PM
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Thanks everyone. I also just found an E with 13,000 miles and Premium, so that solves both my problems at once. Not my first choice dealer, but unless the car doesn't check out (so far so good), that's probably the one.
It's actually more rare to find a car that doesn't have the premium package. If you don't like the dealer, what you're looking for is somewhat common so you could go to your local dealer and ask them to keep an eye out for what you want. They go to the auctions all the time.
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cetialpha5
It's actually more rare to find a car that doesn't have the premium package. If you don't like the dealer, what you're looking for is somewhat common so you could go to your local dealer and ask them to keep an eye out for what you want. They go to the auctions all the time.
Good to know, thank you. The place I'm looking at has some mixed reviews, and I wouldn't be able to go check the car out before buying because it's too far away. Also, I find it bizarre that I've found about 5 Lux E350s without Premium since none of them were service loaners. For whatever reason, this dealership seems to consistently order Lux E's with no options.
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Old Jun 14, 2016 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mcbc220
Good to know, thank you. The place I'm looking at has some mixed reviews, and I wouldn't be able to go check the car out before buying because it's too far away. Also, I find it bizarre that I've found about 5 Lux E350s without Premium since none of them were service loaners. For whatever reason, this dealership seems to consistently order Lux E's with no options.
I would check other places besides dealers. I was finding MUCH better pricing for similar cars and they still have 24 months and 25K miles left on factory warranty
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Old Jun 16, 2016 | 03:01 PM
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2014 is a three years old vehicle. Most lease return should be less than 36k, as MB allows 12k per year. CPO provide the best warrenty option, you are protected by remaining factory warranty + additional one year on unlimited mileage. You may elect to pay for additional coverage. Not sure if you can buy the additional coverage after your CPO purchase.
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Originally Posted by jylee
2014 is a three years old vehicle. Most lease return should be less than 36k, as MB allows 12k per year. CPO provide the best warrenty option, you are protected by remaining factory warranty + additional one year on unlimited mileage. You may elect to pay for additional coverage. Not sure if you can buy the additional coverage after your CPO purchase.
This is well covered in the extended warranty forum. You can buy 2 extra years of CPO coverage from any MB dealer in the country. There are many of them in the extended warranty forum so it's easy to get a quote. It must have CPO coverage if you're getting it from an MB dealer though in order to buy the 2 extra years.
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I am also looking to buy a 2014 E350. If I buy CPO, it is possible to extend the warranty to 7 years/100,000 miles bumper to bumper then? How much does it typically cost to get such a coverage from the dealer?
If you buy a 2014 E350 CPO, you will have the option to buy up to a 7 year unlimited mile warranty. But it won't be bumper to bumper, it'll cover most major items (it's basically the CPO warranty extended to 7 years unlimited miles)

It's also 7 years from the car's original in service date, not from the day you buy it. (i.e. it's 7 years from the first owner's purchase date).

Dealer's will likely want $3k to $4k for that warranty. You're best bet is to buy from one of the individuals listed on the extended warranty thread. They can likely get you that same warranty in the $2k range. (guestimate)
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Old Jun 19, 2016 | 06:43 PM
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If you buy a 2014 E350 CPO, you will have the option to buy up to a 7 year unlimited mile warranty. But it won't be bumper to bumper, it'll cover most major items (it's basically the CPO warranty extended to 7 years unlimited miles)

It's also 7 years from the car's original in service date, not from the day you buy it. (i.e. it's 7 years from the first owner's purchase date).

Dealer's will likely want $3k to $4k for that warranty. You're best bet is to buy from one of the individuals listed on the extended warranty thread. They can likely get you that same warranty in the $2k range. (guestimate)
Technically it's 3 years max on the CPO. When you buy CPO from the MB dealer, it comes with one year CPO and you buy the other 2 years from a vendor in the extended warranty forum. If you buy the car from a non MB dealer, check to make sure that it's eligible for extended warranty coverage, cars sold by MB dealers that are not CPO and CPO cars that didn't get the warranty extended before expiration aren't eligible. If you buy the car from a non MB dealer that still has some of the original warranty, you can buy an extended warranty, that's the 7/100k extended warranty. I think one of the many differences would be that on the extended warranty, you can get some money back on the unused part of the warranty, but CPO you don't, although you can transfer it.
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Originally Posted by cetialpha5
Technically it's 3 years max on the CPO. When you buy CPO from the MB dealer, it comes with one year CPO and you buy the other 2 years from a vendor in the extended warranty forum. If you buy the car from a non MB dealer, check to make sure that it's eligible for extended warranty coverage, cars sold by MB dealers that are not CPO and CPO cars that didn't get the warranty extended before expiration aren't eligible. If you buy the car from a non MB dealer that still has some of the original warranty, you can buy an extended warranty, that's the 7/100k extended warranty. I think one of the many differences would be that on the extended warranty, you can get some money back on the unused part of the warranty, but CPO you don't, although you can transfer it.
3 years of CPO extended warranty, or 7 years total from the original in service date.

Also CPO extended warranty covers less then the MBELW that you can buy on a non CPO car.

A CPO warranty can be extended to 3 year unlimited miles. (7 year from first in service date, unlimited miles) But a regular extended warranty (MBELW) can only be extended to 100k miles or 7 years.

MBELW is nearly bumper to bumper coverage. CPO is not bumper to bumper but covers major components. (I don't have list handy but you can find it on mbusa or ask your dealer).
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Originally Posted by thenew3

MBELW is nearly bumper to bumper coverage. CPO is not bumper to bumper but covers major components. (I don't have list handy but you can find it on mbusa or ask your dealer).
If the cost is about the same, what would be a reason to go with CPO, when I could buy a MBELW that covers me bumper to bumper to 100k or 7 years? I see that a CPO cost about 3k more than a non-CPO. Wouldn't it be wise to put that money towards MBELW and buy a non CPO?
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If the cost is about the same, what would be a reason to go with CPO, when I could buy a MBELW that covers me bumper to bumper to 100k or 7 years? I see that a CPO cost about 3k more than a non-CPO. Wouldn't it be wise to put that money towards MBELW and buy a non CPO?
You basically don't have a choice. When it's sold by an MB dealer, it has to be CPO. If you buy it without CPO, you can't buy the extended warranty. If you buy it from a regular dealer or private party and it hasn't been sold by the MB dealer at auction, then you can buy the extended warranty. It all boils down to where you buy it. That's usually not high on someone's list, it usually the options, color, mileage and price.
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Originally Posted by cetialpha5
You basically don't have a choice. When it's sold by an MB dealer, it has to be CPO. If you buy it without CPO, you can't buy the extended warranty. If you buy it from a regular dealer or private party and it hasn't been sold by the MB dealer at auction, then you can buy the extended warranty. It all boils down to where you buy it. That's usually not high on someone's list, it usually the options, color, mileage and price.
Man, there is a lot to learn!

I will be buying mine from any dealer that has the best price, options and color. Which ever dealer I choose, I want to extend the warranty to 100K or 7 years. Whatever warranty that is left of the 50k/4 years of original MB warranty and then extend that by additional 3 years and 50K.

My apologies to all my newbie questions. Which source do I use to verify that the car hasn't been sold by the MB dealer at auction? CARFAX?

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Not sure you can verify who sold it at auction. Besides, the issue isn't who sold it, the issue is that MB will not offer MBELW on a car that has been CPO certified before. So if a MB dealer has a CPO that isn't selling and decides to offload that car at auction or to a third party dealer, it is no longer a CPO car. However, if the car was never CPO'd then it should be eligible for the MBELW. Best thing to do is take the VIN and have a MB dealer check (see extended warranty section for referrals) to see if ELW is available for that car. The third party seller likely won't know if the car was previously CPO'd so don't rely on them.

Your plan of finding the best car based on price, options, etc. is a good one. Then just deal with the warranty options after that. Just do your research before you purchase so you don't get surprised.
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Originally Posted by dvdit
If the cost is about the same, what would be a reason to go with CPO, when I could buy a MBELW that covers me bumper to bumper to 100k or 7 years? I see that a CPO cost about 3k more than a non-CPO. Wouldn't it be wise to put that money towards MBELW and buy a non CPO?
CPO will have some maintenance work done to it to bring it up to date. For example a CPO may have it's tires and brakes replaced. It may have all the fluid and filters replaced where as with a non-CPO you may have to pay for those things out of pocket shortly after you buy it. A set of tires is easily $800, brakes (if rotors and pads on all 4 corners) could be easily another $1k, fluids (depends on what needs done) can be another $500 to $1k. then there is the 1 year unlimited mile warranty extension that comes with the CPO, that by itself is worth some $$.

Also CPO is nice for those that drive a lot since it's unlimited miles.

I wish they had this type of warranty back when I used to drive 50k miles a year. Then I could buy a 2 or 3 year old CPO, get the 7 year extended and be covered for unlimited miles for those remaining 4 to 5 years which for me would've worked out to be about 200k to 250k miles.
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Thanks thenew3. I see now why this cars are expensive to maintain. $500 - $1k for fluids!!! My 1996 Range Rover, never had any fluids replaced/flushed in 20 years expect for oil change and break fluid top offs. I truly never though about it and my mechanic never mentioned it as a must except to top off what is needed. The car still rides fine with 137K on the dial. Talk about maintenance free vehicle. I guess they don't make them reliable like that anymore!!
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