MOST Configuration (no audio)
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MOST Configuration (no audio)
Hey guys I’ve been browsing this forum for a while now along with doing tons of research for the past 3 months about the no audio issue. I’ve read that the amplifier is usually the cause. I took it to the stealership to eliminate guessing and just throwing parts at it. They told me that it’s most likely the amp. I’ve put in a used one with same part number. Idk if the amp has to be coded to work but they want to charge me $200 extra to code it but with no guarantee that it’ll work. Plus have to wait 2 weeks for a disc from Germany for coding? ( It’s what the SA said, not me lol)
Fault codes are the following
-d018 Ring break Pos. 1
-d019 Ring break Pos 2
-dtc9472 Ch4 loudspeaker open
I’ve ordered the fiber optic loop to try to eliminate the components but would also like to know the MOST configuration for this model to maybe speed up the process. MY is 2010
thanks in advance
Fault codes are the following
-d018 Ring break Pos. 1
-d019 Ring break Pos 2
-dtc9472 Ch4 loudspeaker open
I’ve ordered the fiber optic loop to try to eliminate the components but would also like to know the MOST configuration for this model to maybe speed up the process. MY is 2010
thanks in advance
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the speaker open fault could be checked with an ohm meter, disconnect that speaker and measure the resistance across its terminals, it should be a very low value (do note, speaker impedance, such as 4 ohm or 8 ohm, is an AC thing, and multimeters only can read DC resistance, which quite likely will be lower so don't sweat the actual number, just that its a very low value in the single digits).
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the speaker open fault could be checked with an ohm meter, disconnect that speaker and measure the resistance across its terminals, it should be a very low value (do note, speaker impedance, such as 4 ohm or 8 ohm, is an AC thing, and multimeters only can read DC resistance, which quite likely will be lower so don't sweat the actual number, just that its a very low value in the single digits).
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if you can share your VIN, I can look up your datacard, and pull the wiring diagrams for that version. i'm looking at the ones for my 212.288 (2016 E350 4matic wagon) which has the HK Logic7 premium sound (data code 810) and NGT 5.1 COMAND (code 531 after 2015-03)
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what I just said about audio (ac) impedance vs dc resistance. dc resistance is always lower than the impedance because the speaker is an inductor, eg, a coil.
if you can share your VIN, I can look up your datacard, and pull the wiring diagrams for that version. i'm looking at the ones for my 212.288 (2016 E350 4matic wagon) which has the HK Logic7 premium sound (data code 810) and NGT 5.1 COMAND (code 531 after 2015-03)
if you can share your VIN, I can look up your datacard, and pull the wiring diagrams for that version. i'm looking at the ones for my 212.288 (2016 E350 4matic wagon) which has the HK Logic7 premium sound (data code 810) and NGT 5.1 COMAND (code 531 after 2015-03)
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Engine number ... 272980 31 537671 Front axle 1 .... Sales des. ...... E 350 Front axle 2 .... Order number .... 0 0 715 74904 Rear axle 1 ..... Production order Rear axle 2 ..... Transmission .... 722906 02 709760 Cab ............. Vehicle title no. Platform ........ Power take-off .. VIN ............. WDDHF5GB2AA225849 Front tire 1 .... Trailer hitch ... Front tire 2 .... Steering ........ Rear tire 1 ..... Equipment ....... 101A Rear tire 2 ..... Paint/code 1 .... 040U Order number 1 .. Paint/code 2 .... Rims ............ Paint/code 3 .... Lamps ........... Paint/code 4 .... Windshield wipers Paint/code 5 .... Order number 2 .. Door lock ....... Speed. corr. .... Steering lock ... Source .......... E Transmission lock Tank lock ....... Retarder ........ SA code: 040U BLACK 050 AEJ 19/2 100A IMITATION LEATHER 101A IMITATION LEATHER - BLACK/ANTHRACITE 108 CONTROL CODE MARKETING 182 CONVERTER WITH DEV. CHARACTERISTIC 1U2 SNOW GRID 212B OP. INSTRUCT. AND MAINT. BOOKLET-ENGL. FOR USA/CAN 218 REAR-VIEW CAMERA 230 PARKING GUIDANCE 232 GARAGE DOOR OPENER WITH 284 - 390 MHZ FREQUENCY 236 ADAPTIVE REAR INTERIOR LIGHT 249 INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR MIRROR,AUTOMATICALLY DIMMING 264 LICENSE PLATE ATTACHMENT AMERICA 265 LINES-NO.PLATE DISCONTINUED 275 MEMORY PACKAGE (DRIVER SEAT, STRG. COL., MIRROR) 279 ELECTRONIC GEAR RANGE SELECTION 280 LEATHER STEERING WHEEL AND LEATHER GEAR SHIFT KNOB 284B AIRBAG LABEL - ENGLISH FOR USA 291 PELVIS AIRBAG (PELVISBAG) 294 KNEE AIRBAG 301 ASHTRAY PACKAGE 309 CUP HOLDER 312B HEAD UNIT LANGUAGE - AMERICAN ENGLISH 342B INSTRUMENT CLUSTER/HU LANGUAGE - AMERICAN 359 TELEAID USA 414 ELECTRIC TILT/SLIDE SUNROOF IN GLASS VERSION 427 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 7-SPEED 428 STEER.WHEEL GEARSHIFT BUTTONS/SHIFT PADDLE PAINTED 43P CONTROL CODE MARKETING 461 INSTRUMENT WITH MILES IND. AND ENGLISH LEGEND 475 TIRE PRESSURE CONTROL 494 U.S. VERSION 512 COMAND APS WITH DVD CHANGER 518 UNIVERSAL COMMUNICATIONS INTERFACE (UCI) 51U BLACK FABRIC ROOF INTERIOR TRIM 536 SIRIUS SATELLITE RADIO COMPLETE SYSTEM 540 ROLLER BLIND, ELECTRIC, FOR REAR WINDOW 543 SUN VISOR WITH ADDITIONAL FUNCTION 551 BASIC ANTITHEFT ALARM SYSTEM (ATA) 580 AIR CONDITIONER 634 DELETION - FIRST AID KIT 636 DELETION - WARNING TRIANGLE 668 PRODUCT PROT. F FREIGHT PACKAG. W TIE-DOWN HOOKS 677 AVANTGARDE/STANDARD SUSPENSION 690 EMERGENCY SPARE TIRE (MINI SPARE) 705L UNITED STATES (USA) 731 TRIM PIECES - WOOD BURRED WALNUT VENEER 763 RADIO REMOTE CONTROL WITH PANIC SWITCH (315 MHZ) 772 AMG STYLING PACKAGE-FRONT SPOILER, SIDE SKIRT 7XXL NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICA 800 AEJ 09/1 810 PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM 873 SEAT HEATER FOR LEFT AND RIGHT FRONT SEATS 875 HEATED SCREEN WASH SYSTEM 887 SEPARATE TRUNK LID LOCKING 915 FUEL TANK WITH GREATER CAPACITY - VOLUME 2 919 AIRCON COOLING POWER PACKAGE 951 SPORT-PACKAGE USA 954 EQUIPMENT PACKAGE FOR AVANTGARDE VEHICLES 986 DEVIATING VIN WITH MODEL YEAR 989 IDENTIFICATION LABEL UNDER WINDSHIELD A21 SHIFT BY WIRE A22 NEW CONVERTER GENERATION A31 SOFTWARE (INDIVIDUAL) A36 TORQUE CONVERTER HOUSING AGA A54 S - VALVE BODY ASSEMBLY WITH VGS 3* B12 WHEEL REPLACEMENT TOOL F212 MODEL SERIES 212 FW LIMOUSINE G906 TRANSMISSION CODE VERSION 06 GA AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION HA REAR AXLE K15 CONTROL CODE FOR SERVICE INTERVAL 15000 KM K22 SOFTWARE CONTROL F. LOW BEAMS WITHOUT NIGHT DESIGN K24 STEUERCODE TELEAID SERVICE PROVIDER L LEFT-HAND STEERING M272 V6-GASOLINE ENGINE M272 M35 DISPLACEMENT 3.5 LITER R02 ALL SEASON TYRES R32 18" LIGHT ALLOY WHEEL 5-SPOKE DESIGN MIXED TIRES U10 FRONT PASSENGER SEAT WITH WEIGHT SENSING U12 FLOOR MATS - VELOUR U71 DVD PLAYER WITH REGIONAL CODE 1, USA V04 SPEED. + LOADINDEX 97V XL VL FRONT AXLE HALF, LEFT VR FRONT AXLE HALF, RIGHT
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and attached is the early style sound system amplifier and speaker wiring.
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MY'14 W212 M276 3.5NA @60kMi
HOW can we troubleshoot "MOST" (transport fiber) without Xentry or eliminate it as the source of "no audio"???
complex & simple
Best bet is the N40/3 Amp that manages all sound outputs has cooked a fuse (internally or SAM). This module is a beautiful piece of digital electronic with over 40 chips: ridiculously complex and fragile.
There must be a good repair place on the Net that has found a supplier for the custom Audio output chips. Getting your own unit repaired will save you unnecessary SCN costs.
The problem is these amps are built with a couple silly weaknesses, so you can fry a new or repaired unit in heart beat... DO NOT PUSH 'EM HARD and give them a good GND path.
look at your GND W6: Trunk near left wheel..!
Take the time to test ALL your speaker resistance to make sure you don't fry a known good unit with a short circuited coil.
Honest Amps are protected for shorts and overheat. May be these are too... there is a big fat chance you're dealing with a simple 5¢ fuse waiting for a bypass surgery.
This module is easy to walk in & out for testing.
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complex & simple
Best bet is the N40/3 Amp that manages all sound outputs has cooked a fuse (internally or SAM). This module is a beautiful piece of digital electronic with over 40 chips: ridiculously complex and fragile.
There must be a good repair place on the Net that has found a supplier for the custom Audio output chips. Getting your own unit repaired will save you unnecessary SCN costs.
The problem is these amps are built with a couple silly weaknesses, so you can fry a new or repaired unit in heart beat... DO NOT PUSH 'EM HARD and give them a good GND path.
look at your GND W6: Trunk near left wheel..!
Take the time to test ALL your speaker resistance to make sure you don't fry a known good unit with a short circuited coil.
Honest Amps are protected for shorts and overheat. May be these are too... there is a big fat chance you're dealing with a simple 5¢ fuse waiting for a bypass surgery.
This module is easy to walk in & out for testing.
✌️
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HOW can we troubleshoot "MOST" (transport fiber) without Xentry or eliminate it as the source of "no audio"???
complex & simple
Best bet is the N40/3 Amp that manages all sound outputs has cooked a fuse (internally or SAM). This module is a beautiful piece of digital electronic with over 40 chips: ridiculously complex and fragile.
There must be a good repair place on the Net that has found a supplier for the custom Audio output chips. Getting your own unit repaired will save you unnecessary SCN costs.
The problem is these amps are built with a couple silly weaknesses, so you can fry a new or repaired unit in heart beat... DO NOT PUSH 'EM HARD and give them a good GND path.
look at your GND W6: Trunk near left wheel..!
Take the time to test ALL your speaker resistance to make sure you don't fry a known good unit with a short circuited coil.
Honest Amps are protected for shorts and overheat. May be these are too... there is a big fat chance you're dealing with a simple 5¢ fuse waiting for a bypass surgery.
This module is easy to walk in & out for testing.
✌️
complex & simple
Best bet is the N40/3 Amp that manages all sound outputs has cooked a fuse (internally or SAM). This module is a beautiful piece of digital electronic with over 40 chips: ridiculously complex and fragile.
There must be a good repair place on the Net that has found a supplier for the custom Audio output chips. Getting your own unit repaired will save you unnecessary SCN costs.
The problem is these amps are built with a couple silly weaknesses, so you can fry a new or repaired unit in heart beat... DO NOT PUSH 'EM HARD and give them a good GND path.
look at your GND W6: Trunk near left wheel..!
Take the time to test ALL your speaker resistance to make sure you don't fry a known good unit with a short circuited coil.
Honest Amps are protected for shorts and overheat. May be these are too... there is a big fat chance you're dealing with a simple 5¢ fuse waiting for a bypass surgery.
This module is easy to walk in & out for testing.
✌️
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Give me pics... I'll give you tricks
Correct me if I misunderstood: you've lost 100% audio at once, right? I obviously don't know any of your car history but there is a chance you have blown an internal safety.
To try getting lucky, you can follow the power distribution... either by tracing the PCB or better with the schematic.
Give me some good pics of the PCB on both sides and I'll try to help you by pointing couple spots to check.
Do you have basic skills with a voltmeter and comfortable with live 12Vdc?
To try getting lucky, you can follow the power distribution... either by tracing the PCB or better with the schematic.
Give me some good pics of the PCB on both sides and I'll try to help you by pointing couple spots to check.
Do you have basic skills with a voltmeter and comfortable with live 12Vdc?
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who can help help me!!!!! (no sound ) shows D018
Can anyone help me? ! ! ! My w212 e350 has logic7 surround. When I started the audio yesterday, there was no sound. The host function was normal, including the Bluetooth microphone and voice recognition. When connected to the computer, it reported fault code D018, indicating that the most communication failure (the ring structure on position 1 was broken)
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MOST is an optical bus that runs from the head unit to the amplifier(s), so you'll probably need to dig out each unit its connected to, and verify its plugged in, and check the optic fiber to be sure its not torn or kinked/cracked.
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i'm not sure where the MOST fibers are routed through the chassis. first step, I'd check the ends... behind the head unit, and at the amplifier. I think it also goes to the telematics unit that handles telephone calls and such. specifics depend on model year and such, of course. diagrams are probably in WIS
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