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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 02:19 AM
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Just had an interesting run against a Kia at a traffic light.
Not sure what model it was, but it had big red brambo brake calipers.
It was going neck to neck w/ my E350 in sports mode until we hit traffic.
Can't tell you how fast we were going (too busy watching traffic), but we'd both likely have our licenses revoked, had we been caught by cops.
Just interesting that the Kia's have come a long way...
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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 05:27 AM
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Was it a Kia Stinger by any chance?
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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by cooky01
Just had an interesting run against a Kia at a traffic light.
Not sure what model it was, but it had big red brambo brake calipers.
It was going neck to neck w/ my E350 in sports mode until we hit traffic.
Can't tell you how fast we were going (too busy watching traffic), but we'd both likely have our licenses revoked, had we been caught by cops.
Just interesting that the Kia's have come a long way...
We lose to the V6tt Stingers… they make about 370 and are AWD. The 4 banger stingers make around 300 and it’s pretty close.

The new stingers are nothing to mess with
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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 08:15 AM
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Until we show, and put them in their place.
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Originally Posted by cooky01
Just had an interesting run against a Kia at a traffic light.
Not sure what model it was, but it had big red brambo brake calipers.
It was going neck to neck w/ my E350 in sports mode until we hit traffic.
Can't tell you how fast we were going (too busy watching traffic), but we'd both likely have our licenses revoked, had we been caught by cops.
Just interesting that the Kia's have come a long way...
They sell a 3.3TT motor in some of their sedans that would blow the doors off my E400 assuming I were not tuned. The KIA/Hyundai 3.3TT makes bigger power than mine when tuned though. I do wonder about the reliability of their drivetrains, I've read horror stories.
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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 08:55 AM
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It's not wise to think that our E-Classes (even the E550) are speed demons capable of vanquishing any other vehicle. Even a well equipped pick-up truck can leave our cars in the dust.

The difference -- if it is to be believed -- is that a Mercedes is built to run at Autobahn speeds all day long. I'm guessing a KIA Stinger is not.

My Hyundai Sonata has never seen 110 mph, and I don't think it would like it for long.
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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 09:18 AM
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It's not wise to think that our E-Classes (even the E550) are speed demons capable of vanquishing any other vehicle. Even a well equipped pick-up truck can leave our cars in the dust.

The difference -- if it is to be believed -- is that a Mercedes is built to run at Autobahn speeds all day long. I'm guessing a KIA Stinger is not.

My Hyundai Sonata has never seen 110 mph, and I don't think it would like it for long.
Now a 550 4.7TT with an ECU tune... that becomes a pretty formidable car. I tried talking myself into one of those before settling for the E400 but just couldn't justify that.
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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 09:35 AM
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Now a 550 4.7TT with an ECU tune... that becomes a pretty formidable car. I tried talking myself into one of those before settling for the E400 but just couldn't justify that.
I've been trying to find someone selling a 550 4.7tt stock, I've got my 350 tuned but its not nearly as fast as those... The 4.7tt tuned is arguably faster than a stock e63, 540hp and 705 ()tq compared to the e63's 550hp/531tq
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With my econobox diesel I pass all the cars on long run. They will get ahead of me after start, but I pass them while they fuel 1st time.
Performance car can pass me 2nd time between 1st and 2nd fueling, but since he will have to make twice as many fueling stops as me, I will loose him in my rear mirror after 2nd fueling stop permanently.
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Originally Posted by DubVBenz
Now a 550 4.7TT with an ECU tune... that becomes a pretty formidable car. I tried talking myself into one of those before settling for the E400 but just couldn't justify that.

E550 4Matic with a tune (540bhp/705 tourqe) should be 0-60 in 4 second car. Regardless tune or stock KIA or MB there are so many fast and quick cars now a days it is honestly not even worth caring lol. At the end of the day I would feel safe going 150+ in a MB vs the KIA. Both can move fast but only 1 is built for it.
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Nice to hear you had fun without being caught by cops .
KIA and Hyundai have come long way and make nice cars exterior wise but Mercedes-Benz is a Mercedes-Benz and always will
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Old Feb 2, 2022 | 07:29 AM
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If you are racing Kias at this time and age you must have disposable income. My gas Guage can move almost as fast as the speedometer in the 550.
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I’ll keep the 550. Kia? No thank you.
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. My gas Guage can move almost as fast as the speedometer in the 550.
LoL
Saw a 2017 AMG GLE63 w/ low milege for only $30K on Craigslist. (market rate is $60-70K)
It's a huge gas hog (14-16 MPG) which is why I didn't go for it.
Also I was wary that the deal was too good to be true...
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Originally Posted by cooky01
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Saw a 2017 AMG GLE63 w/ low milege for only $30K on Craigslist. (market rate is $60-70K)
It's a huge gas hog (14-16 MPG) which is why I didn't go for it.
Also I was wary that the deal was too good to be true...
tons of car sale scams out there right now so be careful of those “good deals”. Especially on places like Craigslist’s.
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But I also had good deals that were hard to believe on the first view.
Maybe not mechanically inclined owner got feed with MB dealer draining his equity and want to get rid of the car over few minor problems.
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My car can give 500+ miles on the tank, the problem is that I see a bubble thru my sunroof with a long stretch of road inside of it (looks like Germany), and the car wants to go 160+.

Followed shortly by a yellow gas light. Sighs....
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Originally Posted by cooky01
Just had an interesting run against a Kia at a traffic light.
Not sure what model it was, but it had big red brambo brake calipers.
It was going neck to neck w/ my E350 in sports mode until we hit traffic.
Can't tell you how fast we were going (too busy watching traffic), but we'd both likely have our licenses revoked, had we been caught by cops.
Just interesting that the Kia's have come a long way...
Have you compared specs ? In particular power/ weight ratios? The KIA is about 5100 pounds, the W212 could be about the same for the e350, and about 5500 pound for the e550.

Try it again on a real track, or twisted highway and see which one handles better. I would not be driving a KIA@110+MPH.

hope you have deep pockets because blowing the M272/M276 is going to cost you half of the brand new KIA.
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Have you compared specs ? In particular power/ weight ratios? The KIA is about 5100 pounds, the W212 could be about the same for the e350, and about 5500 pound for the e550.

Try it again on a real track, or twisted highway and see which one handles better. I would not be driving a KIA@110+MPH.

hope you have deep pockets because blowing the M272/M276 is going to cost you half of the brand new KIA.

The Kia should be around 3600 to 3800, the E350 should be 3800 to 4000. My E550 is 4200

And a longblock for a non turbo m276 goes for about 3000 with 40k miles.

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Fair. I used gross weight specs.

I guess he will race it only with single passenger
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