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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 02:21 PM
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Parking Brake Not Holding

Happy New Year, everyone! I recently had dealer install new parking brake mechanism under third party warranty coverage. I also had rear wheels screws adjusted, but so far they don’t hold car if parked at an incline. I don’t think the brake pads are worn as car has 44K miles on the clock. Any suggestions what else could be done to get car to hold when parking brake is depressed?
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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 02:41 PM
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If the dealer just installed a new parking brake mechanism, and it doesn't work, take it back to them to fix it... It probably just needs to be adjusted.
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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 02:52 PM
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The parking brake pads and the operational brake pads are not the same. Still, if the car is not holding, go back to the dealer.
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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 04:03 PM
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What parking brake "mechanism" was replaced?
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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 05:08 PM
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FWIW, I have tried to adjust my parking brakes and they don't hold well either. Adjusting them enough to hold on an incline causes them to drag when off. Adjusting them to not drag and they don't hold well. I still apply the parking brakes when parked.
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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
FWIW, I have tried to adjust my parking brakes and they don't hold well either. Adjusting them enough to hold on an incline causes them to drag when off. Adjusting them to not drag and they don't hold well. I still apply the parking brakes when parked.
If that’s the case, then what’s the point of having parking brakes in the first place. I once owned a Toyota 4Runner and I adjusted those brakes real nice by tightening a spring loaded nut under the center console. I’ll take car to dealer to check out their work when I get a chance.
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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 05:23 PM
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If that’s the case, then what’s the point of having parking brakes in the first place. I once owned a Toyota 4Runner and I adjusted those brakes real nice by tightening a spring loaded nut under the center console. I’ll take car to dealer to check out their work when I get a chance.
I agree. But it's not worth it to me to pay the dealer to adjust the parking brake. The parking brake holds just enough to take some of the strain off the transmission.
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Old Jan 1, 2025 | 06:01 PM
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try this....

Originally Posted by Pantomime
Happy New Year, everyone! I recently had dealer install new parking brake mechanism under third party warranty coverage. I also had rear wheels screws adjusted, but so far they don’t hold car if parked at an incline. I don’t think the brake pads are worn as car has 44K miles on the clock. Any suggestions what else could be done to get car to hold when parking brake is depressed?
Don't do anything else you'll be blamed for causing the issue!

It's sad when dealer techs are not allowed to fix basic systems. I remember MB dearler repair of my failed sunroof was like pulling teeth with idiots.

Rear parking brakes use independent brake shoes with an sel-adjusting ratchet mechanism.

Try setting and releasing PkgBrake 5 or 6 times to cut down on aggravations...
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Old Jan 2, 2025 | 03:26 AM
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Drum style paking brake is a bi-etch , at least for me. Good proper bite is almost never possible with zero touch ( when spinning ) due to servo action of drum brake shoe mechanism,
is more angled a movement than a straight nice disc brake type piston movement.

One thing I noticed, since drum brake ( parking brake ) is enclosed , the rusty friction surface of the inner disc brake DRUM section, hampered good parking brake bite.
Because it is enclosed, it rarely get maintained as in rust and dust control, making its working capability even less.

Just remember that drum brake/parking brake is a servo action, meaning the tire has to spin at least 180 degrees to get final good bite where the brake shoe then "expanded enough " and grip well.
Just in case user is comparing/expecting it to instant stop of disc brake or newer stand alone electric parking brake using stand alone caliper or solenoid assisted but using rear disc brake
own caliper as parking brake.





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Old Jan 2, 2025 | 09:18 AM
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I've adjusted mine using the WIS instructions and they work fine. They don't drag when released and hold the car fine on some pretty inclined roads (you do have to press the pedal hard depending on the situation). Thing to point out is that you need to make the adjustment with both rear wheel off the ground, otherwise they will bite asymmetrically when parking brake is applied.
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Old Jan 14, 2025 | 01:20 PM
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I took car to dealer to inspect new parking mechanism they had recently installed. I was told it functioned as intended and the couple of inches car rolls after applying parking brakes was normal. Shop foreman took car on their shop ramp, and he put car in neutral, let it slide a few feet, then applied the parking brakes, which stopped the car a few feet down the ramp. This was his test that emergency brakes are engaging per the specs. I still believe this is a manufacturing flaw with the parking braking system. When parked on an incline or a slope with parking brakes deployed, car should not move an inch, PERIOD!
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Old Jan 15, 2025 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Pantomime
I took car to dealer to inspect new parking mechanism they had recently installed. I was told it functioned as intended and the couple of inches car rolls after applying parking brakes was normal. Shop foreman took car on their shop ramp, and he put car in neutral, let it slide a few feet, then applied the parking brakes, which stopped the car a few feet down the ramp. This was his test that emergency brakes are engaging per the specs. I still believe this is a manufacturing flaw with the parking braking system. When parked on an incline or a slope with parking brakes deployed, car should not move an inch, PERIOD!
It is called Servo Effect.
I told you already in post #9.
"Just remember that drum brake/parking brake is a servo action, meaning the tire has to spin at least 180 degrees to get final good bite where the brake shoe then "expanded enough " and grip well."

Read here : https://www.akebono-brake.com/englis...nner%20surface.


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Originally Posted by S-Prihadi
It is called Servo Effect.
I told you already in post #9.
"Just remember that drum brake/parking brake is a servo action, meaning the tire has to spin at least 180 degrees to get final good bite where the brake shoe then "expanded enough " and grip well."

Read here : https://www.akebono-brake.com/englis...nner%20surface.
I also think the car shouldn't roll at all. I’ve had other cars that use drum-type parking brakes and never rolled. (By the way, it is a PARKING brake, not an EMERGENCY brake. Not you, @S-Prihadi . Just folks who use the terms interchangeably.)

My SL uses drum-type parking brakes but they are electric and the car doesn’t budge an inch.

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Old Jan 16, 2025 | 02:58 AM
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I agree, I don't like rolling the cars backwards on the hill / downhill either . I use HOLD feature to prevent it from rolling backwards . Those rolling actions could damage the trannies as well . I notice that when you press the P on the gear selector HOLD disengages but not a problem
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