Hi All, could use some advice. Posted a few months ago what I thought to be a success story of mounting 19x8.5, ET 35 non staggered wheels on my E350. Tires are 255-35-19. The research I had done at the time lead to these fitting with no issues.
Well, my front driver side rubs (perhaps because I'm on that side) when going through dips or even decent undulations on the freeway. I have, out of frustration, trimmed a decent chunk of the "roof" of my fender liner (the tire is hitting the top of the fender liner) and it is still rubbing (now against the inside metal of the fender which is super awesome. The car doesn't rub when turning.
I thought, ok I'll just adjust the camber and bring the top of the tire in toward the car a bit. Apparently that isn't doable aside from "camber bolts", which is an option but don't offer much adjustment. Also saw on a Youtube video a guy loosened the bottom two strut bolts and that actually allowed adjustment of the camber.
Would a caster change possibly fix it ?
Anyone experienced this and have any suggestions ? Don't really want to have to switch tires as all 4 are brand new.
ET35 vs ET48 standard, 13mm your tire is going OUTWARD.
Well that is the mistake you did.
Even me at 6mm extra outward due to spacer and Et48 to ET47 , long story on the 5mm spacer....if I go really fast like 100-120 MPH and hit bridge to road joint, making my front suspension
full bottom out, I get scrubbing a bit. In normal use case, no scrubbing.
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Keep this in mind : Fashion vs proper spec, proper spec must come first.
If you mess with camber, not only your tire will "eat" un-even, your straigh tline high speed stability and braking may be effected.
Also even 2-3 degrees camber wont help that too much 13mm projection OUTWARD.
At 2-3 degrees camber, you will spend money on tires like lunch money, aka often.
Thank you for the response @S-Prihadi . In my research, though it was internet/forum based, so there you go... the ET35's were supposed to fit. The wierd thing is that the passenger side does not rub, so that's why I'm confused.
So is it safe to say the only fix is to swap rims with closer to OEM offset ? I do still have the OEM wheels and tires, so maybe I'll just put those back on. Looking to pick up a W222 soon here, just didn't want to sell this car with a rubbing issue. It looks so much better with the 19's though.
Mine had that single rub event on the driver side only. My car is RHD, yours is LHD.
I think its because of our body weight.
Where you sit, the suspension at that side carry more weight.
I do not know how many kilograms per millimeter is our spring type, but I suspect it is like 5 to 6 Kg per mm.
Thus my right spring get compressed more by 37kg or 7.4mm ( using 5kg per mm ) , compared to left side.
This is the same as my car is lower by 7.4mm at the right front wheel vs left side. So more chance to scrub the plastic fender.
Based on my car, we can say that if you are only 6mm OUWARD, it is acceptabe for scrub potential....well sort of
Of course by design if all standard, even bottomed out front suspension will not get the wheel scrubbing the plastic fender.
So, yes, solution is to get to OEM ET as close as possible, with 4-5mm outward being maximum...I guess.
Yes 19" looks nice but for my roads and use case it is a NO NO, I have damaged my 18" big time 3 times already.
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First, your opening is confusing since title states "245" and your first sentence states "255". Which? Also, I dont see which MY you own. Pre/post-facelift?
Next, my E is wearing same size rims (aftermarket) as you with ET30 front / ET45 rear on coils w 4matic. 245-35 no problem for me. I switched to 245-40 to avoid cracking rims, I get rubbing on both front sides. I have to return to 245-35. Options I might consider include switching my rims to 18s or looking at the E63 rims ($$$). There are front fender differences among models, I dont know how that relates to your E. @S-Prihadi is correct, as always. Offset is issue. I agree with you, I like the 19 look. But, I am tired of cracking rims in the city (suburb/highway no issues), so I drive a different vehicle downtown.
Ooops, your tire is 255 / 35 - 19, ( I assumed 245 ).... its even taller than standard 245 / 40 -18 by 4mm. So more chance to scrub plastic fender too.
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