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Old 07-27-2018, 10:16 AM
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Just a thought: Maybe they hold to move current inventory of 2018 in stock at dealerships?

You ordered the car, you have the price fixed.....
No fixed price. We’re no prices when I ordered it in May.

If they held them at the dealer instead of the VPC, I’d end up in jail. Too tempting to break-in, take the car and leave a check :-)
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No fixed price. We’re no prices when I ordered it in May.

If they held them at the dealer instead of the VPC, I’d end up in jail. Too tempting to break-in, take the car and leave a check :-)
Imagine how much harder it would be if it were at your dealership and you were told you can look, but not touch!
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I have never wanted a car bad enough to sign a contract without a price.

Well actually, if I had the money (which I don't) and there was a limited production of a Ferrari (say 100 cars) I might, but certainly not for a MB, BMW or Audi or any other car from a major manufacturer.

Are you saying you are bound to take the car regardless of price?

Just my $.02.
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I have never wanted a car bad enough to sign a contract without a price.

Well actually, if I had the money (which I don't) and there was a limited production of a Ferrari (say 100 cars) I might, but certainly not for a MB, BMW or Audi or any other car from a major manufacturer.

Are you saying you are bound to take the car regardless of price?

Just my $.02.
didn’t sign a contract. Just gave a refundable $1000 deposit for the build slot. My name is on the build. It’s mine but I’m under no obligation to actually take it. If I don’t, they’ll just sell it as inventory.

They told me what their estimate of what the price would be, since MB didn’t disclose pricing until the June DOG. They were just about right. The MSRP is within $500 of their estimate. They’ll even honor the Costco special purchase price, even though it expired in June (of course there’s always another Costco price... maybe it’ll be a better deal by the time my car is delivered )
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Originally Posted by JTK44
I have never wanted a car bad enough to sign a contract without a price.

Well actually, if I had the money (which I don't) and there was a limited production of a Ferrari (say 100 cars) I might, but certainly not for a MB, BMW or Audi or any other car from a major manufacturer.

Are you saying you are bound to take the car regardless of price?

Just my $.02.
I often sign contracts for many things without firm pricing. It is a simple matter to include an exit clause for a specific reason or at the whim of the buyer.

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I too am working with my local Costco MB dealer. So far so good!
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I too am working with my local Costco MB dealer. So far so good!
in May the deal on e-class was $2k above invoice. Hopefully it will be better in September. If it’s better I get the new deal, if it’s not as good they’ll still honor the better one.
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What was the MSRP vs. invoice?

Also, do you a link to the invoice prices for 2019? I have the DOG but of course those are MSRP prices.

When I lease my 2019 (I lease and do not buy) the more information I have the better equipped I am to negotiate!

Thanks
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Originally Posted by JTK44
What was the MSRP vs. invoice?

Also, do you a link to the invoice prices for 2019? I have the DOG but of course those are MSRP prices.

When I lease my 2019 (I lease and do not buy) the more information I have the better equipped I am to negotiate!

Thanks
don’t know. I was only able to estimate by looking at edmunds on the 2018. If I remember it cane out to about 6% off MSRP
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If you (or anyone else) has a link to invoice prices please post. Edumunds, KBB and other services have not posted 2019 invoice prices.

Of course incentives vary and come and go.
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My dealer's MBUSA rep said that the tentative release date is October for both the E450 and the E53.
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My dealer's MBUSA rep said that the tentative release date is October for both the E450 and the E53.
interesting... my salesman checked with this region’s rep and said everything is still “on schedule” whatever that means.

Obviously, everything subject to change for every reason under the sun.... but the latest DOG has the Cabriolet being released Q3.... shows the AMG Cabriolet as Q4. Don’t know what the Sedan DOG says. He also says all sub-classes are not necessarily released at the same time. For instance, last year the 2018 E400 coupe was released in June or July whereas the sedans and Cab were released on Aug 20. He said historically the same for previous years.... subclasses getting released at different times.

He also said said one of the factors for when a subclass being released is available inventory of the previous model year. For instance, he said there are almost no 2018 Cabs available in the country. He says a lot of the decision on release date has to do with not wanting to make the current model years inventory less valuable. Makes sense.

Obviously, factors beyond MBUSA control are government stuff. People have been commenting here that the e-class hasn’t received certification... but the EPA only publicly publishes those results once or twice a year. The last one I can find on the EPA Web site is April 2018. Because MB has no cars on that list just means they didn’t submit their cars in time for that publication.

As selfish as it sounds, I’m only interested in when I can get my Cab, that’s been sitting rotting in Baltimore since July 6. :-)
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The July EPA doc is now out. No 2019 Mercedes models there. Same with CARB.
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Originally Posted by sackboydad

interesting... my salesman checked with this region’s rep and said everything is still “on schedule” whatever that means.

Obviously, everything subject to change for every reason under the sun.... but the latest DOG has the Cabriolet being released Q3.... shows the AMG Cabriolet as Q4. Don’t know what the Sedan DOG says. He also says all sub-classes are not necessarily released at the same time. For instance, last year the 2018 E400 coupe was released in June or July whereas the sedans and Cab were released on Aug 20. He said historically the same for previous years.... subclasses getting released at different times.

He also said said one of the factors for when a subclass being released is available inventory of the previous model year. For instance, he said there are almost no 2018 Cabs available in the country. He says a lot of the decision on release date has to do with not wanting to make the current model years inventory less valuable. Makes sense.

Obviously, factors beyond MBUSA control are government stuff. People have been commenting here that the e-class hasn’t received certification... but the EPA only publicly publishes those results once or twice a year. The last one I can find on the EPA Web site is April 2018. Because MB has no cars on that list just means they didn’t submit their cars in time for that publication.

As selfish as it sounds, I’m only interested in when I can get my Cab, that’s been sitting rotting in Baltimore since July 6. :-)
The DOG updated the first week in July says, release for the 300/300 4Matic/450 4Matic Q3 2018.
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The DOG updated the first week in July says, release for the 300/300 4Matic/450 4Matic Q3 2018.
thanks. So I’m wondering where Q4 is coming from, other than the AMG’s which have always been Q4
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thanks. So I’m wondering where Q4 is coming from, other than the AMG’s which have always been Q4
It stems from the fact that dealerships are notoriously uninformed by MBUSA on releases. So a lot of rumors float around this time of year. A salesman at one dealer says October. Another says September. The reality is they'll be released when MBUSA releases them and we nor the dealers know anything more.
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It stems from the fact that dealerships are notoriously uninformed by MBUSA on releases. So a lot of rumors float around this time of year. A salesman at one dealer says October. Another says September. The reality is they'll be released when MBUSA releases them and we nor the dealers know anything more.
completely agree. My salesman has always said that. He showed me, historically, when cars like the one I’m waiting for have been released but says in the end, they find out when they get a notice that the car is on a carrier vehicle and it’s ETA.
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Originally Posted by sackboydad

completely agree. My salesman has always said that. He showed me, historically, when cars like the one I’m waiting for have been released but says in the end, they find out when they get a notice that the car is on a carrier vehicle and it’s ETA.
Suffice it to say.....if one of the most pressing things we have going on in our lives is "when" our luxury cars will be in our possession, we're all doing quite well. Quite well indeed!
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Just to update on this, I’ve spoken to other Canadian customers and confirmed with MB Canada that even the Canadian spec’d E Class sedans were supposedly built starting in June and some are already at the Halifax port awaiting release. Meanwhile my dealership keeps telling me there’s no built date assigned yet. I thought it might’ve been due to HUD shortage but upon speaking to customer service they said only dealership ordered ones have a shortage so that shouldn’t be a problem.

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I just heard from my dealer that if he places the order for my E450 that I won’t be able to pick it up in Germany until December 5 .
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I just heard from my dealer that if he places the order for my E450 that I won’t be able to pick it up in Germany until December 5 .
Damn that’s quite far away. Did you order it with the digital instrument cluster? I remember last year there was a huge backlog of orders due to MB having low supply of the 12.3 inch displays which caused months of delays for some customers (I know my dealership received their first 2018 E63 S last month due to the delay). A lot of the new models use it so it’s not really surprising anymore if that’s the cause of it since the new S (supposedly no longer for 2020 MY), G, CLS are also using the same 12.3 inch instrument cluster.
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Damn that’s quite far away. Did you order it with the digital instrument cluster? I remember last year there was a huge backlog of orders due to MB having low supply of the 12.3 inch displays which caused months of delays for some customers (I know my dealership received their first 2018 E63 S last month due to the delay). A lot of the new models use it so it’s not really surprising anymore if that’s the cause of it since the new S (supposedly no longer for 2020 MY), G, CLS are also using the same 12.3 inch instrument cluster.
Yes with the 12.3, but I’m not sure that’s the reason.
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I just heard from my dealer that if he places the order for my E450 that I won’t be able to pick it up in Germany until December 5 .
Obviously, Germany is a totally different sales company than the US..... but MBUSA just put out a Quick Reference Guide that has the E450 line (except for the Coupe and Cabriolet) as "Late 2018". I wonder if it's world-wide. Maybe that has something to do with December?
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Originally Posted by sackboydad
Obviously, Germany is a totally different sales company than the US..... but MBUSA just put out a Quick Reference Guide that has the E450 line (except for the Coupe and Cabriolet) as "Late 2018". I wonder if it's world-wide. Maybe that has something to do with December?
I'm not sure but I believe that date is when they will release the car to the dealerships since a lot of E450 have been built already and are at the VPC. My dealership did say that until the ones at Halifax are released they don’t think any new ones will be assigned build dates for the next few months and the earliest possible is November. I feel they’re not really informed on these matters since the dealership opened last August and I’m not sure how much it differs between Canada and USA.

https://www.media.mbusa.com/releases...ddf98e230096f8

This says theyll arrive late 2018 to the dealership for USA. Supposedly the HUD is delayed again when I last saw the order guide but at least in Canada they said it won’t matter for a customer build

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