Finding albums in Comand
Another angle, perhaps related, is how the music is sorted into the folders. The usual default is artist/album/title, which again is how it would be tagged if you got it from iTunes.
On the other hand, if every single album is listed by artist, it sounds systematic. So there might be a computer glitch involved somewhere.
When I list albums, they are sorted by album, alphanumerically.
Another angle, perhaps related, is how the music is sorted into the folders. The usual default is artist/album/title, which again is how it would be tagged if you got it from iTunes.
On the other hand, if every single album is listed by artist, it sounds systematic. So there might be a computer glitch involved somewhere.
When I list albums, they are sorted by album, alphanumerically.
I'm getting the impression that many music players, like an ipod or a iphone are pretty tolerant of errors, whereas COMAND seems to need to be fed in a pretty specific way. But I don't really understand the problem exactly.
What file format are these? M4A, mp3
Did you rip these yourself from a CD or buy them as digital files from a place like iTunes?
now.
I stripped the flash drive of all music last night. I then reloaded my iTunes library and today the albums are showing up in alpha numeric order and not by artist name. I can live with that. On an earlier post, someone suggested it might be a Gracenotes thing?
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It takes data from a media source and reads data from those files. It has several different algorithms to check these data against possible matches in its database. As it pulls in data it creates a SQL database of all metadata it needs. From what I can tell, once it finds a match it uses its own set of metadata for the SQL database. But it may also use metadata from the actual source file.
The SQL database and it's software allow you to search it's database in a number of ways. You can search by album, artist, folder, Genre, etc. It's software enables voice recognition and it can be pretty sophisticated. For example if you asked it to play P Diddy or Puff Daddy, it would play albums by Sean Combs. So it is pretty sophisticated that way.
I can only assume that's what is behind our systems, as it is proudly advertised as Powered by Gracenote. So COMAND is software that interfaces the car to Gracenote, I suppose.
Why it is so damn difficult to get this sophisticated system to play songs in the right order (at least in the US) is beyond me.
But it seems some important points would follow:
1) If it uses some of our files metadata, then it can make a difference in how songs are presented. That's something we sort of control, but its a bit of black box.
2) If it creates a SQL database, it stands to reason that you may need to refresh this database as data change. The good side is it doesn't have to create the database every time you turn on the car. But if it retains data, it could retain outdated data. Hence a need to refresh the SQL database. I've reached out to Gracenote to get some insight here. But they may not even respond to an enduser.
3) If it is mostly using its database and algorithms to present what we see, it may be difficult to override those views by our attempts to change metadata. We can't control that.
4) When you use CarPlay you are probably using Apple's media player. The iPhone reads your metadata in a way it is very comfortable with and creates output you expect. When you use COMAND, its Gracenote's game. Same set of data, different databases and algorithms.
5) I can't understand why it works for some people and not for others if Gracenote is so sophisticated.
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