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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 10:07 AM
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2020 E450 Wagon?

After looking at some sharp-looking wagons in the photos section, I'm having second thoughts about ordering a sedan and am considering a Wagon (Estate, Shooting Brake) instead. But, I don't see wagons listed in the MY20 E-Class Sedan DOG. Now, maybe that's because it says SEDAN (duh). Is there a separate DOG for the wagon? Does anyone know for sure if I can order a 2020 wagon?
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 10:29 AM
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J D Powers rates one here.
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 10:41 AM
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J D Powers rates one here.
Well, they /list/ it, with N/A for all ratings. Hopefully, that means it does, or will, exist, though.
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 12:26 PM
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Well, they /list/ it, with N/A for all ratings. Hopefully, that means it does, or will, exist, though.
I think I saw it somewhere that there will be one in 2020. Don’t worry, the station wagons are pretty popular with MB.
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 04:29 PM
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A Google search indicates there will definitely be a 2020 E450 Wagon: I see TrueCar now has 2020 MB information and pricing, and the wagon is available there. A couple other sites mention it, most without much information. Someone here mentioned his dealer had a DOG for a 2020 wagon some time ago. Finally, a news release from MB is located at https://media.mbusa.com/releases/rel...0-4matic-wagon .

FYI, the 2020 wagon starts out at $4,550 more than an E450 sedan (2019 was $4,250 more), pricing of options seems the same (2019 add for Parking Assistance Package was $1,050 vs sedan's $1,290 - don't know why, but hope it's the same in 2020), $440 Power Rear Sunshade is not available on the Wagon, but $380 Manual rear-side window sunshades (pricey) are. Specs for 2019 and reviews state that rear suspension in wagon is air self-leveling, but Air Body Control is still the same adder at $1,900.
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 09:13 PM
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On that 2020 release it has:

Suspension

Front

Independent multi-link suspension with coil spring, single-tube
gas pressure with selectable damping and tubular torsion bar

Rear

Independent multi-link suspension with coil spring, single-tube
gas pressure with selectable damping and tubular torsion bar


They are not doing air on the rear anymore? or just an error? or am I missing something else?
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 09:49 PM
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They are not doing air on the rear anymore? or just an error? or am I missing something else?
Darn, looks like I'm losing another feature.
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 10:21 PM
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This is the May version of the DOG for the 2020 wagon - downloaded earlier in the year from this forum... Self-leveling rear air suspension still listed as standard on page 8.

https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ar0WBm53lr-xmRCD...Aw-L_?e=EPBYoY

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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 10:24 PM
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Good to hear, didn't think they'd get rid of that.
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 10:32 PM
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Yes, you can have the self-leveling rear air suspension or the complete Air Body Control.
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 10:48 PM
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Yes, you can have the self-leveling rear air suspension or the complete Air Body Control.
You'd think there would be a break for adding air to just the front, but I'm sure the back is different too, and, well, they just can!

And I guess, especially with the wagon, I should consider getting the Acoustic Comfort Package, with "increased cabin insulation, windshield and side windows with acoustic and heat absorbing membrane", even though it's $1,100 PLUS a $250 special order fee. Does it block laser or radar radar detector operation, BTW? I have a Valentine 1 I'd probably be mounting under the center rear view mirror.
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 11:36 PM
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You'd think there would be a break for adding air to just the front, but I'm sure the back is different too, and, well, they just can!

And I guess, especially with the wagon, I should consider getting the Acoustic Comfort Package, with "increased cabin insulation, windshield and side windows with acoustic and heat absorbing membrane", even though it's $1,100 PLUS a $250 special order fee. Does it block laser or radar radar detector operation, BTW? I have a Valentine 1 I'd probably be mounting under the center rear view mirror.

I can tell you that I thought the acoustic comfort package would not really do much - three weeks after getting a 2019 E450 wagon with it, I am impressed - it is way quieter than my 2017 E300 was. Much less tire and wind noise - actually makes the audio sound better because the car is quieter. Not sure why it became special order for 2020 - it would be worth it to order, IMO.

I think there are two "openings" in the windshield for radar detectors or toll tags - one in center at bottom and one up to near rearview mirror - either of those places would be where radar detector would go...
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Old Aug 27, 2019 | 11:40 PM
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Ya, under the rear view mirror would not work as the signal would be blocked for the radar detector. Only those spots mentioned. I put my towards the back of the dash down low and works fine.
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Old Aug 27, 2019 | 11:56 PM
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Ya, under the rear view mirror would not work as the signal would be blocked for the radar detector. Only those spots mentioned. I put my towards the back of the dash down low and works fine.
So, laying on the dash at the very front of the windshield? My concern with that is lots of heat (although windshield would help) and very visible. I hate using the suction cups on the windshield, and have been spoiled with my GTI and Acura having it attached to a mount which fits around the mirror. The position to the right of the mirror will get in the way of the visor. I'll have to really think about this.
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Old Aug 28, 2019 | 12:04 AM
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I use Velcro and remove it wherever I park. I’d be nervous to leave it in view that someone might smash out a window to steal it. It’s a 500 dollar detector.
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I use Velcro and remove it wherever I park. I’d be nervous to leave it in view that someone might smash out a window to steal it. It’s a 500 dollar detector.
I know. I have two of them, and have paid to have both upgraded. I've found the plug on the cord to be rather flimsy, and am afraid that daily unplugging might cause a problem. On the GTI and Acura, I have them wired in through the mirror, or wiring just behind it. I assume your cord goes behind the dash, under to the fuse box?
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Looking at an E450 Wagon at the dealer today, under the storage compartment that has the 3rd row seat is a fairly deep compartment with (I'm not sure what all) jack, storage box, do-dads and such. But of course, no tire. It /looked/ deep and large enough to hold a compact tire, but I'm assuming that is not the case? I asked the salesman, and he just went into his "Why would you want a spare with run-flats?" routine.
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Nope won't fit, been tried. There is quite a bit of space under there, I took out that aluminum brace and it made even space.
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Originally Posted by rraisley
You'd think there would be a break for adding air to just the front, but I'm sure the back is different too, and, well, they just can!

And I guess, especially with the wagon, I should consider getting the Acoustic Comfort Package, with "increased cabin insulation, windshield and side windows with acoustic and heat absorbing membrane", even though it's $1,100 PLUS a $250 special order fee. Does it block laser or radar radar detector operation, BTW? I have a Valentine 1 I'd probably be mounting under the center rear view mirror.
How do you like your Valentine One?
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Old Sep 26, 2019 | 11:09 PM
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Contact your Mercedes dealer and they can email you the My20 order catalog/book for the wagon.

I had it but deleted it once I decided to buy a 19 from existing (other dealer) stock.
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Old Sep 26, 2019 | 11:17 PM
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Contact your Mercedes dealer and they can email you the My20 order catalog/book for the wagon.
I have had it for quite a while (July date I think). Car was ordered just 3 weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by MBS E53
How do you like your Valentine One?
I like it a lot. I've used them almost since they came out, having used Escorts and Passports prior to that. I do wish they'd make the package a bit smaller and more streamlined, but really like the way it works. Although quite expensive, they always offer upgrades to the latest versions.
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Finally picked up my new 2020 E450 Estate (sounds much better than wagon) today. Took a bit longer that I thought it would; it only got to the dealer this past Monday, after being ordered September 6, I think it was. Here are some cloudy day pics taken with my phone:







Mercedes Benz E450S4 Estate Wagon, designo Diamond White Metallic exterior, Macchiato Beige & Yacht Blue Nappa Leather interior, Burl Walnut wood trim, Luxury Styling Package, Driver Assistance Package, Active Distronic, Parking Assistance Package, Exterior Lighting Package, Acoustic Comfort Package, Premium Package with Burmester Sounde, etc., 18" Twin 5-Spoke Wheels, Heated & Ventilated Front Seats, Head-Up Display, 3-Zone Climate Control.

Love the blue leather trimmed interior (although it doesn't look as blue as above pictures indicate), and the Acoustic Comfort Package really makes it quiet.

Now, if I can only find the odometer. In my 2 hours so far of driving the car, I thought I'd tried every display option, and have yet to find it. Weird; it's usually always visible in most vehicles!
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The odometer appears when you first turn on the car.

Afterwards it is one of the options in the center: range until empty, average miles per gallon and average mph from start, etc. Just scroll down and you will find it.

The pictures show the blue on the dash!
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