Waiting 10 months for my wagon should I ask for a discount?
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Waiting 10 months for my wagon should I ask for a discount?
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On August 4th 2020 I paid a deposit and ordered a 2021 All Terrain wagon. After several delays the car is scheduled to arrive in April but who knows?
The car was to cost ~$85,000 as I added lots of options.
If I ordered a wagon now I would have to order a 2022. "If" it comes in April, I feel as though I'm going to take delivery of last year's model.
What sort of discount should I ask for? Does anyone have any experience as to what sort of discount a dealer or Mercedes will offer at the end of the model year?
I recognize that this delay may be a function of the pandemic and I understand but I also feel that when the 2022 E class is introduced in September my car will immediately be worth less money.
I'd welcome any thoughts or suggestions.
Thank you
Phil
On August 4th 2020 I paid a deposit and ordered a 2021 All Terrain wagon. After several delays the car is scheduled to arrive in April but who knows?
The car was to cost ~$85,000 as I added lots of options.
If I ordered a wagon now I would have to order a 2022. "If" it comes in April, I feel as though I'm going to take delivery of last year's model.
What sort of discount should I ask for? Does anyone have any experience as to what sort of discount a dealer or Mercedes will offer at the end of the model year?
I recognize that this delay may be a function of the pandemic and I understand but I also feel that when the 2022 E class is introduced in September my car will immediately be worth less money.
I'd welcome any thoughts or suggestions.
Thank you
Phil
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If you want one exactly they way you want it ordering may be the only way to get it. Ordering takes a while. You ordered at a bad time with the model year end and a pandemic.
You may be able to cancel and then get on the wait list for a 2022 which could be more months of waiting.
If you're worried about value pick up a used vehicle. No matter what you buy it'll drop in value. Vehicles are not a financial investment unless you're buying a tri year Nomad or something like that.
You may be able to cancel and then get on the wait list for a 2022 which could be more months of waiting.
If you're worried about value pick up a used vehicle. No matter what you buy it'll drop in value. Vehicles are not a financial investment unless you're buying a tri year Nomad or something like that.
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The CCP virus has really changed the game right now. I believe these wagons are few and far between and if you don’t take the vehicle, the dealer will have customers waiting in line to snap it up. Depending upon your relationship with the dealer, you may be able to get a better discount, but I would not push too hard. It was just announced that some European countries, including Germany, are now experiencing another increase in virus cases. They have a real mess going on over there (not that any other country doesn’t) with supplier shortages, etc. On a relatively low production vehicle like the All Terrain, if it shows up the way you ordered it, feel very fortunate. Just my opinion, of course. Good luck!
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If you want one exactly they way you want it ordering may be the only way to get it. Ordering takes a while. You ordered at a bad time with the model year end and a pandemic.
You may be able to cancel and then get on the wait list for a 2022 which could be more months of waiting.
If you're worried about value pick up a used vehicle. No matter what you buy it'll drop in value. Vehicles are not a financial investment unless you're buying a tri year Nomad or something like that.
You may be able to cancel and then get on the wait list for a 2022 which could be more months of waiting.
If you're worried about value pick up a used vehicle. No matter what you buy it'll drop in value. Vehicles are not a financial investment unless you're buying a tri year Nomad or something like that.
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Thank you Bill, A used car wont work because I want MBUX. It is true that it is not a investment but in 2022 I currently plan to trade it in on a S class so value is a issue.. Investment asside I am paying for a 21 and did not have it. I was to get it in December now who knows.
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what you are planning no longer makes sense. If it ever did. A car loses value immediately. Why not just buy the S class? Buying a new car never really makes a lot of financial sense. Buying and trading in a year makes even less sense. Normally I’d say that if you’re buying an S class, money is not an issue. However, you brought it up. At this point, I’d just buy the S. Or wait until the 2022 S comes out.
It is time for a change from my 2015 S but I do not want to buy a new 2021 S the first year it is out. Waiting a year allows MB to work out the bugs. In the meantime I have a new car with MBUX and have a change of pace, The e class is proven as it has been out for three years.
If I trade the wagon in 2023 after owning it for two years the depreciation as a percentage of new cost will be less than if I own it for only one year. I will take a hit but less of a hit.... at lead that is my theory.
I appreciate all the feedback but I wonder if anyone has an idea of what sort of discount I show ask for at the end of the model year.
Perhaps Streamliner gave me the best advice when he said do not expect too much of a discount because the car is in short supply. Also it turns out my car is $88,525.
thank you.
phil
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I agree with Streamliner - with limited supply and high demand the dealer would likely make more money if you cancelled so they could put it on their lot. I suspect they would move it in a few days. This limits what discount you can get. It never hurts to ask, but don't be disappointed if there is little to zero flexibility on their end.
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Thank you Bill. This is exactly the analysis I have been doing. With respect, while it would seem that you are correct here was my thinking:
It is time for a change from my 2015 S but I do not want to buy a new 2021 S the first year it is out. Waiting a year allows MB to work out the bugs. In the meantime I have a new car with MBUX and have a change of pace, The e class is proven as it has been out for three years.
If I trade the wagon in 2023 after owning it for two years the depreciation as a percentage of new cost will be less than if I own it for only one year. I will take a hit but less of a hit.... at lead that is my theory.
I appreciate all the feedback but I wonder if anyone has an idea of what sort of discount I show ask for at the end of the model year.
Perhaps Streamliner gave me the best advice when he said do not expect too much of a discount because the car is in short supply. Also it turns out my car is $88,525.
thank you.
phil
It is time for a change from my 2015 S but I do not want to buy a new 2021 S the first year it is out. Waiting a year allows MB to work out the bugs. In the meantime I have a new car with MBUX and have a change of pace, The e class is proven as it has been out for three years.
If I trade the wagon in 2023 after owning it for two years the depreciation as a percentage of new cost will be less than if I own it for only one year. I will take a hit but less of a hit.... at lead that is my theory.
I appreciate all the feedback but I wonder if anyone has an idea of what sort of discount I show ask for at the end of the model year.
Perhaps Streamliner gave me the best advice when he said do not expect too much of a discount because the car is in short supply. Also it turns out my car is $88,525.
thank you.
phil
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I agree with Streamliner - with limited supply and high demand the dealer would likely make more money if you cancelled so they could put it on their lot. I suspect they would move it in a few days. This limits what discount you can get. It never hurts to ask, but don't be disappointed if there is little to zero flexibility on their end.
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what you are planning no longer makes sense. If it ever did. A car loses value immediately. Why not just buy the S class? Buying a new car never really makes a lot of financial sense. Buying and trading in a year makes even less sense. Normally I’d say that if you’re buying an S class, money is not an issue. However, you brought it up. At this point, I’d just buy the S. Or wait until the 2022 S comes out.
Buy the S-Class instead. At least you won't buy two cars that depreciate instantly.
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Thank you Bill. This is exactly the analysis I have been doing. With respect, while it would seem that you are correct here was my thinking:
It is time for a change from my 2015 S but I do not want to buy a new 2021 S the first year it is out. Waiting a year allows MB to work out the bugs. In the meantime I have a new car with MBUX and have a change of pace, The e class is proven as it has been out for three years.
If I trade the wagon in 2023 after owning it for two years the depreciation as a percentage of new cost will be less than if I own it for only one year. I will take a hit but less of a hit.... at lead that is my theory.
I appreciate all the feedback but I wonder if anyone has an idea of what sort of discount I show ask for at the end of the model year.
Perhaps Streamliner gave me the best advice when he said do not expect too much of a discount because the car is in short supply. Also it turns out my car is $88,525.
thank you.
phil
It is time for a change from my 2015 S but I do not want to buy a new 2021 S the first year it is out. Waiting a year allows MB to work out the bugs. In the meantime I have a new car with MBUX and have a change of pace, The e class is proven as it has been out for three years.
If I trade the wagon in 2023 after owning it for two years the depreciation as a percentage of new cost will be less than if I own it for only one year. I will take a hit but less of a hit.... at lead that is my theory.
I appreciate all the feedback but I wonder if anyone has an idea of what sort of discount I show ask for at the end of the model year.
Perhaps Streamliner gave me the best advice when he said do not expect too much of a discount because the car is in short supply. Also it turns out my car is $88,525.
thank you.
phil
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How about getting a CPO 2019/2020 for a year? It has a much updated COMAND system that runs off the same new Mercedes me connect backend as MBUX, including new phone app. Has CarPlay/Android Auto, OTA updates etc. Most of the same features as MBUX and looks very similar to MBUX. It's what I have in my current car. I've had several loaners with MBUX and I have come to the conclusion that the first version of MBUX should be skipped. It's somewhat of a kludge and is buggy.
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BUY THE NEW CAR! I don’t know about you, but there is something very special about a car you personally research and then order to your, particular specifications. As someone else here said, if you are a new S Class customer, money is probably not a huge object. Get this new wagon and who knows, you may even decide that you like it better than a new S. Or, you may keep both, using the wagon for a utility vehicle. Life is too short, especially with the year we just lost. Write off the expense to “Fun & Enjoyment.” It’s time to LIVE A LITTLE! 
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BUY THE NEW CAR! I don’t know about you, but there is something very special about a car you personally research and then order to your, particular specifications. As someone else here said, if you are a new S Class customer, money is probably not a huge object. Get this new wagon and who knows, you may even decide that you like it better than a new S. Or, you may keep both, using the wagon for a utility vehicle. Life is too short, especially with the year we just lost. Write off the expense to “Fun & Enjoyment.” It’s time to LIVE A LITTLE!
One thing I will miss in the E class is the windshield washer. The S has it in the wipers but not the E class.
thanks again
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Yes like Streamliner says might as well just go for it, you must have given the options a lot of thought and colors etc, so if it's everything you want don't let it slip away. In the future though my suggestion would be to agree on a discount at the time of order. Thats what I've done in the past and it's worked out fine. I ordered a 2018 E63 AMG a few years ago and we agreed on 6 percent off the sticker price at the time I ordered the car. If you try to get 5 or 6 percent after the fact of your order they will more than likely say no.
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Yes like Streamliner says might as well just go for it, you must have given the options a lot of thought and colors etc, so if it's everything you want don't let it slip away. In the future though my suggestion would be to agree on a discount at the time of order. Thats what I've done in the past and it's worked out fine. I ordered a 2018 E63 AMG a few years ago and we agreed on 6 percent off the sticker price at the time I ordered the car. If you try to get 5 or 6 percent after the fact of your order they will more than likely say no.
This is a pretty common practice which I advise everyone to follow.
