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Old 10-21-2021, 08:50 PM
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Hello everyone!

I just bought my new Mercedes e200 from Germany and the car will be shipped to me next month but when I checked it's VIN number it doesn't seem to have 360 camera but it has the augmented reality video option so I am confused, is that even possible to have that option without the 360 camera? Also does my car has a Burmester sound system?

My VIN no is W1K2130801A868504. I would be glad and appreciate it if someone could help?!

https://www.mbdecoder.com/decode/W1K2130801A868504

Thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by normandi
Hello everyone!

I just bought my new Mercedes e200 from Germany and the car will be shipped to me next month but when I checked it's VIN number it doesn't seem to have 360 camera but it has the augmented reality video option so I am confused, is that even possible to have that option without the 360 camera? my VIN no is W1K2130801A868504. I would be glad and appreciate it if someone could help?!

https://www.mbdecoder.com/decode/W1K2130801A868504

Thanks in advance!
Don’t know about where you are. In the US, the 360 camera is part of the parking assistance package. It has nothing to do with augmented reality.
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I am in Egypt, but the car I ordered is from Germany. Thus all I have access to now is it's VIN number and waiting for it to be shipped to me probably by the end of the next month.
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augmented reality has a special dedicated (extra) camera that has nothing to do with the 360 cameras
so it is indeed possible to have AR and not 360
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U19 confirms augmented reality however, no Burmester (code 811 = high end sound). MB delay for AR see here: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...d-reality.html
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Oh! So does that mean that I have the AR option but it is not installed in my car due to the shortage of the microchips problem internationally?
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
U19 confirms augmented reality however, no Burmester (code 811 = high end sound). MB delay for AR see here: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...d-reality.html

Isn't when these speakers are available in the car means that it is Burmester sound system? This is a picture of my car's door.
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According to EPC your VIN is equipped with speaker cover shown (ignore trim finish), diagram depicts installed speakers (grayed out not installed).




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Originally Posted by konigstiger
According to EPC your VIN is equipped with speaker cover shown (ignore trim finish), diagram depicts installed speakers (grayed out not installed).



So you're saying the cover is installed but the speakers aren't burmester? Damn Hahaha
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Originally Posted by normandi

Isn't when these speakers are available in the car means that it is Burmester sound system? This is a picture of my car's door.
Did you buy this car from new? Some like to cover their stock black speakers with chinese-made fake burmester covers

take a picture of the rear door instead… burmester will have a speaker and a tweeter there - Stock only have one speaker

Burmester rearspeakers(and front)


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also on a different note ; estimates are that a 3rd to half of the cars exported from Germany have their mileage lowered
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Originally Posted by JakeW213
Did you buy this car from new? Some like to cover their stock black speakers with chinese-made fake burmester covers

take a picture of the rear door instead… burmester will have a speaker and a tweeter there - Stock only have one speaker

Burmester rearspeakers(and front)

I guess this picture shows that my car doesn't have Burmester speakers
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JakeW213:

I too have the Burmeister sound on my 2019 E450. Just went out to look and I have two speakers, like your photo, in the rear door. Never noticed it before. Thanks for pointing it out!
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also on a different note ; estimates are that a 3rd to half of the cars exported from Germany have their mileage lowered
What do you mean, mileage lowered??
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What do you mean, mileage lowered??
Presumably they mean the mileage showing on the computer is less than what is actually supposed to be shown!
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Presumably they mean the mileage showing on the computer is less than what is actually supposed to be shown!
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I'm unfamiliar with this phenomenon. Why would the German exports not show the accurate number of miles traveled?
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I'm unfamiliar with this phenomenon. Why would the German exports not show the accurate number of miles traveled?
So they get more money for them!!
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That is legal???
It depends on whether the seller is aware!!

In my country it is not illegal to change the 'mileage' indicated on the car but it would be illegal to then sell the car and give false information.

So if I reduce the mileage and then trade the car in to a dealer without declaring the change the dealer can then legally sell the car on based on the new false mileage.
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in Germany it's the same.

in Europe many people like to import from Germany as there's a huge choice of "premium" cars
and prices (also new) are in general lower than in other EU countries
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Originally Posted by decorily
It depends on whether the seller is aware!!

In my country it is not illegal to change the 'mileage' indicated on the car but it would be illegal to then sell the car and give false information.

So if I reduce the mileage and then trade the car in to a dealer without declaring the change the dealer can then legally sell the car on based on the new false mileage.
oh wow, I learned something new. Thanks for sharing. Didn't even know that it was legal to manipulate the mileage in the first place in some countries, I get the falsify information part when selling but the manipulate in the first place.... wow...
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oh wow, I learned something new. Thanks for sharing. Didn't even know that it was legal to manipulate the mileage in the first place in some countries, I get the falsify information part when selling but the manipulate in the first place.... wow...
I thought the mileage was in the computer module and could not be tampered with. When I take my car in for service they can pull up all the work done, the day it was done and the mileage.

I cannot imagine buying a Mercedes from a dealer who has tampered with the mileage. Here in the US that is a crime. We also have Carfax for used cars which documents the car, the mileage, service done and if there have been any wrecks, water damage or salvaged title.

Common sense tells you that a three year old Mercedes will not have 5,000 miles on it!

But buying from a private individual or private firm (shady) if the mileage can be manipulated it might be done- but again in the US that is a crime.

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Originally Posted by JTK44
I thought the mileage was in the computer module and could not be tampered with. When I take my car in for service they can pull up all the work done, the day it was done and the mileage.

I cannot imagine buying a Mercedes from a dealer who has tampered with the mileage. Here in the US that is a crime. We also have Carfax for used cars which documents the car, the mileage, service done and if there have been any wrecks, water damage or salvaged title.

Common sense tells you that a three year old Mercedes will not have 5,000 miles on it!

But buying from a private individual or private firm (shady) if the mileage can be manipulated it might be done- but again in the US that is a crime.
Likewise (in Canada), but now I learned it is actually legal for other countries. Surprised me to say the least.
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Its legal in the sense that you tamper with it for fun/or yourself… the second you sell it on with tampered clock its a crime anywhere.

but eventhough its a crime, its a weighed option… the profit is high and the “getting caught is low” so people will do it. If anything like that is done here and caught… it will be a fine, and if its figured out that it has been done on a large scale… fine is bigger. If the assumed profit from doing this reaches a certain amount. Lets say 100.000 usd - then we talk prison.

but getting caught is rare I think, because these cars can circulate, bought and sold on, and if its figured out after 3 years… it might be impossible to track down the person who did it and profitted on it in the first place.



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