Decontenting - Disgusting
MB has removed or downgraded the following, probably to save money:
- No Spare
- No CD
- Front cabin storage reduced: FrontBottomOfSeatGone; FrontSideWebbingGone, Glove box smaller, DoorPocketsSmaller
- Crummy Touch controls instead of toggles and buttons. Reviewers (Motortrend, Car&Driver, Consumer reports) all hate them (CON lists).
- Space behind fold down back seats now not high enough to accomodate a Cristmas tree (found out the hard way)
- Sound volume gradations how chunky instead of continuous
- 4 cylinder instead of 6.
Last edited by Holtgraver; Dec 9, 2024 at 11:03 AM. Reason: improve clarity
MB has removed or downgraded the following, probably to save money:
- No Spare
- No CD
- Front cabin storage reduced: FrontBottomOfSeatGone; FrontSideWebbingGone, Glove box smaller, DoorPocketsSmaller
- Crummy Touch controls instead of toggles and buttons. Reviewers (Motortrend, Car&Driver, Consumer reports) add them to short CON list.
- Space behind fold down back seats now not high enough to accomodate a Cristmas tree (found out the hard way)
- Sound volume gradations how chunky instead of continuous
- 4 cylinder instead of 6.
2. No cd indeed they force you to use either Bluetooth or sd card
Cost reductions needed to fuel EV development and to improve company profitability if anything is left after throwing it into the EV pyre.
Porsche is doing the same thing on latest Cayenne iteration. No front seat bottom storage, fewer square inches of leather-in-color (replaced with black), eliminated rear sport seat bolsters, eliminated rear floormat retention pins, etc etc etc.
Porsche is allegedly planning a 3-row EV SUV above Cayenne and they need to reduce cost and harvest profits from the “volume” (a relative term) models Cayenne and Macan to burn the cash on 3-row EV SUV development.
I have a USB jump drive in my 2018 E400 that includes 3500 tracks — rock, jazz, classical, and folk. Sounds great on the car's Burmester Surround Sound System.




- No Spare - Find me a car that does. My older one has an inflatable, the newer one a can of fix a flat. In either case it is MORE than sufficient as a typical MB owner is not changing their own flat anyway.
- No CD - few weeks ago some guy at a gas station gave me a "demo" DVD. I had to go to one of my older cars to even play it. No DVD player in the house either. No loss. And, no I am not a fan of gansta rap - but this one -
- Front cabin storage reduced: FrontBottomOfSeatGone; FrontSideWebbingGone, Glove box smaller, DoorPocketsSmaller And at a time where a typical US third grade kid is morbidly obese.
- Crummy Touch controls instead of toggles and buttons. Reviewers (Motortrend, Car&Driver, Consumer reports) all hate them (CON lists). Anyone I have ever met who pays any attention to CR is seriously a Karen.
- Space behind fold down back seats now not high enough to accomodate a Cristmas tree (found out the hard way) - so, get a wagon or SUV. Life has options.
- Sound volume gradations how chunky instead of continuous - Last I checked, MB does not make audio equipment.
- 4 cylinder instead of 6. - This is the "Al Gore" and "Gretta Thunberg" effect. It makes me feel better to pour the used oils from my cars into the habitat of manatee.
- If you want a spare tire, buy one. I did.
- I find the storage space is about the same. It is divided into smaller spaces, a BIG plus. I like the small slot in the center console for storing things such as bills, credit cards, etc. Smaller storage spaces makes it is easier to locate items contained therein.
- I've never attempted to put a Christmas tree into the back seat of a car. I'm sure that's a challenge for any car. If you have to do it, buy a smaller tree.
- CDs are obsolete along with cassette tape. If you want to play that kind of media, get a player and plug it into a handy USB port. MB is simply keeping up with technology.
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2. What are the new smaller storage spaces you are claiming are there?
3. You decline the back seat and can easily fit a 6' 5" tree in the prior E class models. I've done it for 15 years. Should I really just accept reduced functionality now and why?
4. You're probably right about technology (my 60 year career), but be prepared to throw your stuff away when the tech disruptors switch to USB-D or wireless only. It's pretty clunky to have a player sitting on your passenger seat or floor if you have a passenger. More Mercedes elegance I guess.
Last edited by Holtgraver; Dec 9, 2024 at 07:25 PM. Reason: improve clarity




Just out of curiosity, what do you even keep in your car? Most of the storage compartments and nets in my car are empty or mostly empty. As said, my data and music is on my phone/in the cloud and the phone has a place in the center console for it to go in pretty much any modern car. Usually there's a wireless charging pad these days where the phone goes. I don't even carry a keyring anymore that I have to put somewhere in the car to not have it stab me in the groin. My house keys etc. are digital keys on my phone and I have keypads on the lock as a backup to get into the house in case I lose my phone. Back when I carried physical keys and lost them I couldn't get into the house anymore and had to call a locksmith to replace the locks. Now I can just disable the digital keys should I lose the device they are stored on, and I don't have to carry anything in addition to my phone. Similar situation with my wallet. Got rid of the bulky bifold that was uncomfortable to sit on and had to be stored somewhere in the car while driving in favor of a minimalist card wallet that isn't much larger than the stack of cards I carry in case I find myself somewhere where I can't pay contactless with my phone, and I keep a $20 bill in the money clip for emergencies. I also still have to legally carry a physical drivers license for now, even though I have a digital driver's license on my phone. Downsizing and smart Everyday Carry is the key to lack of storage space. You might even find it liberating to not have to have all the junk with you. Travel light, travel smart.
As for the spare tire. Haven't needed one in forever. Complete blowouts are rare, and many cars nowadays come with runflat tires so you can keep driving to your destination or a safe location instead of having to change a tire on the side of an Interstate with your back towards 75 mph traffic zipping by. Too many distracted drivers on the roads these days that might not see you and wipe you out. Personally I don't use runflat tires, but I have a compressor and a can of goo to seal a puncture in an emergency, but I've yet to even need that and I'm pretty unlucky when it comes to screws and nails in my tires. However, most of the time they seal the puncture enough to keep driving until it can be repaired.
Things change and we constantly have to rethink our habits. Years ago we might have lugged around a ton of stuff with us everywhere we go, but the digital age eliminated much of that and all we have to carry is our phone, a minimalist wallet and maybe the car fob. The latter two are gradually going away, getting fully replaced by digital wallets and digital keys. The W214 for example has support for digital keys, so you don't even need to carry your key fob anymore.
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MB has removed or downgraded the following, probably to save money:
- No Spare
- No CD
- Front cabin storage reduced: FrontBottomOfSeatGone; FrontSideWebbingGone, Glove box smaller, DoorPocketsSmaller
- Crummy Touch controls instead of toggles and buttons. Reviewers (Motortrend, Car&Driver, Consumer reports) all hate them (CON lists).
- Space behind fold down back seats now not high enough to accomodate a Cristmas tree (found out the hard way)
- Sound volume gradations how chunky instead of continuous
- 4 cylinder instead of 6.
MB has removed or downgraded the following, probably to save money:
- No Spare
- No CD
- Front cabin storage reduced: FrontBottomOfSeatGone; FrontSideWebbingGone, Glove box smaller, DoorPocketsSmaller
- Crummy Touch controls instead of toggles and buttons. Reviewers (Motortrend, Car&Driver, Consumer reports) all hate them (CON lists).
- Space behind fold down back seats now not high enough to accomodate a Cristmas tree (found out the hard way)
- Sound volume gradations how chunky instead of continuous
- 4 cylinder instead of 6.
4 cylinder is consumer decision to so hardly a fault of MB for having one in the particular vehicle you selected.
The world has moved on from CD's for good or bad reasons; my 2018 doesn't have a CD player either so you have to go pretty far back to get an integrated one.
Sorry to hear your not happy, but most of your list of faults are consumer requirements mostly addressed with a different model or brand.
Last month I ripped 450 CDs to FLAC for a friend. It took two 10 hour days using ExactAudioCopy in fast mode, a 24x Dell DW316 portable drive and an Intel Core Ultra 7, 5GHz w/32 GB mem notebook.




Last month I ripped 450 CDs to FLAC for a friend. It took two 10 hour days using ExactAudioCopy in fast mode, a 24x Dell DW316 portable drive and an Intel Core Ultra 7, 5GHz w/32 GB mem notebook.
The purpose of ripping a CD is to provide for personal use and the backup of same. Put simply, Croitoru Laurentiu, you are wrong!
Last edited by ua549; Dec 10, 2024 at 02:02 PM.




Last month I ripped 450 CDs to FLAC for a friend. It took two 10 hour days using ExactAudioCopy in fast mode, a 24x Dell DW316 portable drive and an Intel Core Ultra 7, 5GHz w/32 GB mem notebook.
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Last edited by ua549; Dec 10, 2024 at 03:28 PM.






