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Old Sep 6, 2021 | 08:38 AM
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I know this is the EQS thread, however I am very curious to hear any opinions from those who like and are possibly ordering an EQS what their thoughts on the new EQE are. I think the EQE wears the design language better due to the tidier and more "compact" dimensions, and it surprisingly features many EQS features such as the gorgeous Hyperscreen, Auto-Doors, as well as 4.5 and 10 degree steering (all of these of course will likely change based on chip availability). Now it doesn't have as much power (at the moment 350 is the only trim), space (normal trunk vs hatch) or range as the EQS, however it does feature AWD on the base trim (EQS only offers AWD on 580's), and still a healthy 400 miles WLTP range, at of course a much cheaper (although not announced) price.

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The EQE looks like an Anime character in these proportions. Looks like a woman should be driving.
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Old Sep 6, 2021 | 11:35 AM
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I definitely don't like the body proportions as much as the EQS, although the paint color is very cool. That is not an EQS paint choice. Its the newest non-metallic gloss paint that we are seeing on different cars around the country. I have to say That car with that paint looks pretty damn cool!

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Old Sep 6, 2021 | 12:39 PM
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A correction to my earlier post, the EQE350 will not have 4Matic, the press release states later versions will have 4Matic to which I assume will likely be a different model numerically (likely 450). I do think MB would be smarter to release the 4Matic variants of both EQE and EQS as soon as possible to maximize sales as many will not buy a RWD car even if the traction management is excellent.
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Old Sep 6, 2021 | 05:21 PM
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The EQE looks like an Anime character in these proportions. Looks like a woman should be driving.
I think the EQE looks perfectly fine. I'm just curious, why should only women drive the EQE? BTW, the world's first driver was a woman, Bertha Benz.
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Old Sep 6, 2021 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by js_cls
I know this is the EQS thread, however I am very curious to hear any opinions from those who like and are possibly ordering an EQS what their thoughts on the new EQE are. I think the EQE wears the design language better due to the tidier and more "compact" dimensions, and it surprisingly features many EQS features such as the gorgeous Hyperscreen, Auto-Doors, as well as 4.5 and 10 degree steering (all of these of course will likely change based on chip availability). Now it doesn't have as much power (at the moment 350 is the only trim), space (normal trunk vs hatch) or range as the EQS, however it does feature AWD on the base trim (EQS only offers AWD on 580's), and still a healthy 400 miles WLTP range, at of course a much cheaper (although not announced) price.
I like the EQE. I think it looks more sporty than the EQS. The shorter body makes the front end seem more proportional. Also the shoulders seem more muscular giving it a bit of that Porsche flair, whereas the EQS seems a bit flat sided in comparison. I do prefer the hatch, but from an aesthetic perspective, I think the EQE has a better shape.

Interestingly the car looks very compact - when I saw pictures, I thought it was sized like a W205 C-Class. However when you look at the dimensions, it is slightly larger than a W213 E-Class. I always felt my wife's 2018 E63S felt huge, and so I think this EQE is probably a much better size for a "driver's car" than the EQS.

My ideal car would be an EQE63 instead of an EQS580. But waiting for that could be a 2 year wait, and I may as well enjoy the EQS580 in the mean time. Let's see what happens. My dealer told me my October build allocation has slipped to Jan.
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Old Sep 6, 2021 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
I like the EQE. I think it looks more sporty than the EQS. The shorter body makes the front end seem more proportional. Also the shoulders seem more muscular giving it a bit of that Porsche flair, whereas the EQS seems a bit flat sided in comparison. I do prefer the hatch, but from an aesthetic perspective, I think the EQE has a better shape.

Interestingly the car looks very compact - when I saw pictures, I thought it was sized like a W205 C-Class. However when you look at the dimensions, it is slightly larger than a W213 E-Class. I always felt my wife's 2018 E63S felt huge, and so I think this EQE is probably a much better size for a "driver's car" than the EQS.

My ideal car would be an EQE63 instead of an EQS580. But waiting for that could be a 2 year wait, and I may as well enjoy the EQS580 in the mean time. Let's see what happens. My dealer told me my October build allocation has slipped to Jan.
Thanks for the perspective, I am very curious to see how this will compare price wise to the EQE considering the two surprisingly share many of the high end features.

It also looks like they granted your wish of offering Selenite Magno with the Night Package.

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Old Sep 6, 2021 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
I like the EQE. I think it looks more sporty than the EQS. The shorter body makes the front end seem more proportional. Also the shoulders seem more muscular giving it a bit of that Porsche flair, whereas the EQS seems a bit flat sided in comparison. I do prefer the hatch, but from an aesthetic perspective, I think the EQE has a better shape.

Interestingly the car looks very compact - when I saw pictures, I thought it was sized like a W205 C-Class. However when you look at the dimensions, it is slightly larger than a W213 E-Class. I always felt my wife's 2018 E63S felt huge, and so I think this EQE is probably a much better size for a "driver's car" than the EQS.

My ideal car would be an EQE63 instead of an EQS580. But waiting for that could be a 2 year wait, and I may as well enjoy the EQS580 in the mean time. Let's see what happens. My dealer told me my October build allocation has slipped to Jan.
Will the hyper screen be included on your EQS580 order? I posted a week or two ago that the hyper screen and the 3D head-up display are not available now on my order. It's maddening to me. I was first on the list at my dealer as well. The GM told me that the main culprit is COVID since the factories in Malaysia are shut down.

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Old Sep 7, 2021 | 09:19 AM
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Will the hyper screen be included on your EQS580 order? I posted a week or two ago that the hyper screen and the 3D head-up display are not available now on my order. It's maddening to me. I was first on the list at my dealer as well. The GM told me that the main culprit is COVID since the factories in Malaysia are shut down.
Last communication I had with dealer she said that all options are showing available for the January build. That said I it is possible she isn't checking since stuff keeps changing and there is a long time between now and the order being locked for production.

What month allocation do you have? And is it 450 or 580?
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Thanks for the perspective, I am very curious to see how this will compare price wise to the EQE considering the two surprisingly share many of the high end features.

It also looks like they granted your wish of offering Selenite Magno with the Night Package.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NfWgCyfa3Q
Yes the price comparison will be interesting. Have to say I am disappointed they only announce the 350 model. I wonder if they need a larger battery for AWD and they would rather produce more cars with fewer batteries.

The night package with magno selenite gray is also available on the EQS in Europe. It's a US market issue, but usually they are more willing to do night package on the E-Class models because they target a younger buyer with more contemporary tastes.
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BTW, I think anyone can drive any car they want regardless of their size or the size of the car. The EQE would be a fine choice regardless of gender and size.
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Old Sep 7, 2021 | 06:20 PM
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[QUOTE=stealth.pilot;8412038]Last communication I had with dealer she said that all options are showing available for the January build. That said I it is possible she isn't checking since stuff keeps changing and there is a long time between now and the order being locked for production.

What month allocation do you have? And is it 450 or 580?[/QUOTE
I really don't know what month allocation I have. All I know is that when the GM was placing the options I want, it would not accept the hyper screen. I'll call the GM tomorrow.
It's a 580.

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Old Sep 7, 2021 | 07:11 PM
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BTW, I think anyone can drive any car they want regardless of their size or the size of the car. The EQE would be a fine choice regardless of gender and size.
Yes totally agree. It's insane to relate size to gender, and to imply there is something wrong for a man to drive a smaller car. That guy clearly has never heard of the Porsche 911.

The EQS is great. It's also not that small. It's 2 inches longer than an E-Class, and it's wheelbase is 9 inches longer than an E-Class. This is a big car. The EQS is a massive car.

Personally I would love to see an EQC coupe. That could be pretty awesome. Imagine an EQC63 Coupe.

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Yes totally agree. It's insane to relate size to gender, and to imply there is something wrong for a man to drive a smaller car. That guy clearly has never heard of the Porsche 911.

The EQS is great. It's also not that small. It's 2 inches longer than an E-Class, and it's wheelbase is 9 inches longer than an E-Class. This is a big car. The EQS is a massive car.

Personally I would love to see an EQC coupe. That could be pretty awesome. Imagine an EQC63 Coupe.
You are probably not talking about the EQC that exists now (the GLC based EQ model right?) If so, do you think MB will even be releasing a C-Class sedan and coupe sized EQ model?
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Yes totally agree. It's insane to relate size to gender, and to imply there is something wrong for a man to drive a smaller car. That guy clearly has never heard of the Porsche 911.

The EQS is great. It's also not that small. It's 2 inches longer than an E-Class, and it's wheelbase is 9 inches longer than an E-Class. This is a big car. The EQS is a massive car.

Personally I would love to see an EQC coupe. That could be pretty awesome. Imagine an EQC63 Coupe.
If you are over 6'0, you can't fit in an S2000, RX7 etc. Some cars are clearly made for certain sized people. Obviously you can drive what you want, but it still looks funny to see a tiny woman (or man), climbing into the drivers seat of an expedition, like they're mounting a horse.

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MBUSA has put up a new website where you can reserve a test drive in select cities: https://www.mercedeseqtestdrive.com/
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MBUSA has put up a new website where you can reserve a test drive in select cities: https://www.mercedeseqtestdrive.com/
Starting just one month from now. Very cool. Looks like Atlanta will be the next city up.
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Yes totally agree. It's insane to relate size to gender, and to imply there is something wrong for a man to drive a smaller car. That guy clearly has never heard of the Porsche 911.

The EQS is great. It's also not that small. It's 2 inches longer than an E-Class, and it's wheelbase is 9 inches longer than an E-Class. This is a big car. The EQS is a massive car.

Personally I would love to see an EQC coupe. That could be pretty awesome. Imagine an EQC63 Coupe.
Did you mean EQE is great? Agreed with whole post!

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
Yes totally agree. It's insane to relate size to gender, and to imply there is something wrong for a man to drive a smaller car. That guy clearly has never heard of the Porsche 911.

The EQS is great. It's also not that small. It's 2 inches longer than an E-Class, and it's wheelbase is 9 inches longer than an E-Class. This is a big car. The EQS is a massive car.

Personally I would love to see an EQC coupe. That could be pretty awesome. Imagine an EQC63 Coupe.
I totally agree with your post but I think you meant to say that the EQE is 2 inches longer than an E class and not the EQS. According to MB, the EQE is about the size of the CLS. I also would be good with an EQC63. I think we're just at the very beginning of what'll be coming down the pike as far as the "63" EV variations are concerned. It'll sure be interesting to watch it all unfold.
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You are probably not talking about the EQC that exists now (the GLC based EQ model right?) If so, do you think MB will even be releasing a C-Class sedan and coupe sized EQ model?
I think he meant the EQE. The smallest EQ is the EQA, followed by the EQB, EQC (all not available in the US) and then the EQE...
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I think he meant the EQE. The smallest EQ is the EQA, followed by the EQB, EQC (all not available in the US) and then the EQE...
Supposedly the EQA is headed to the U.S. next year.
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If you are over 6'0, you can't fit in an S2000, RX7 etc. Some cars are clearly made for certain sized people. Obviously you can drive what you want, but it still looks funny to see a tiny woman (or man), climbing into the drivers seat of an expedition, like they're mounting a horse.
To each their own. I think everyone can drive whatever they want regardless of their physical size. People buy the vehicles that fit their needs as maybe on the weekends they're towing a boat, horse or classic car trailer, etc. Just my 2 cents.
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You are probably not talking about the EQC that exists now (the GLC based EQ model right?) If so, do you think MB will even be releasing a C-Class sedan and coupe sized EQ model?
I would be willing to bet that in due time there will be an EQC sedan like the EQE and EQS sedans once the rollout of the W206 has been completed.
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If you are over 6'0, you can't fit in an S2000, RX7 etc. Some cars are clearly made for certain sized people. Obviously you can drive what you want, but it still looks funny to see a tiny woman (or man), climbing into the drivers seat of an expedition, like they're mounting a horse.
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Supposedly the EQA is headed to the U.S. next year.
US will be getting the EQB, the EQA has not been confirmed, though I am doubtful they would bring both when EV's are still a smaller market. The EQB is definitely the smarter variant to bring considering the normal GLB is more practical and outsells the GLA.
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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
Last communication I had with dealer she said that all options are showing available for the January build. That said I it is possible she isn't checking since stuff keeps changing and there is a long time between now and the order being locked for production.

What month allocation do you have? And is it 450 or 580?[/QUOTE
I really don't know what month allocation I have. All I know is that when the GM was placing the options I want, it would not accept the hyper screen. I'll call the GM tomorrow.
It's a 580.
EDIT: I just talked to the GM of my dealership. He said there are no builds going that far out. So, perhaps you should check with your sales lady again to see if she has any updates. The GM also indicated that the build for me was going to be in October but the hyper screen and augmented reality HUD are not available in October. Who knows when they will be available! Also, as you can see above, mine is an EQS580. I forgot to mention that to you the other day.

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