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Old 01-30-2022, 02:56 PM
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Trying to find a dealership with a "reasonable" upcharge in California

Hi members,

A couple of days ago we attended an EQS580 test drive event in SoCal. She is sold on the EQS580. I am torn between it and the Lucid AirGT. In truth, the EQS has the edge.

But, the dealership we usually buy our MB from, is quoting me a $35K upcharge for it. I wonder if I can go out of state if I register the car in California?

Are there any dealerships in CA that generally have a lower upcharge?

What's been your experience?
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Originally Posted by cyber3d
Hi members,

A couple of days ago we attended an EQS580 test drive event in SoCal. She is sold on the EQS580. I am torn between it and the Lucid AirGT. In truth, the EQS has the edge.

But, the dealership we usually buy our MB from, is quoting me a $35K upcharge for it. I wonder if I can go out of state if I register the car in California?

Are there any dealerships in CA that generally have a lower upcharge?

What's been your experience?
There are almost no EQS 580's being allocated right now. I've heard of $50k premiums on them, so $35k in CA isn't bad.
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I just bought an EQS 580V4 from the local dealer in Louisiana for MSRP window sticker with a KBB max price on the trade and no upcharge.. .
They still have two 450s on the lot.

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Originally Posted by cyber3d
Hi members,

A couple of days ago we attended an EQS580 test drive event in SoCal. She is sold on the EQS580. I am torn between it and the Lucid AirGT. In truth, the EQS has the edge.

But, the dealership we usually buy our MB from, is quoting me a $35K upcharge for it. I wonder if I can go out of state if I register the car in California?

Are there any dealerships in CA that generally have a lower upcharge?

What's been your experience?
I was torn between Lucid AGT and EQS , but realized more than half of Lucid is funded and owned Mohammed Bin Salman (Saudi dictator), who brutally murdered a columnist at a US newspaper that did not agree with him. So I choose to go for the EQS. If lucid changes their ownership structure maybe I’ll consider them down the line.
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Originally Posted by LGBrandon
I was torn between Lucid AGT and EQS , but realized more than half of Lucid is funded and owned Mohammed Bin Salman (Saudi dictator), who brutally murdered a columnist at a US newspaper that did not agree with him. So I choose to go for the EQS. If lucid changes their ownership structure maybe I’ll consider them down the line.
WTF !?!?!?!?!!
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WTF !?!?!?!?!!
They're expanding production there too...
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Originally Posted by cyber3d
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But, the dealership we usually buy our MB from, is quoting me a $35K upcharge for it. I wonder if I can go out of state if I register the car in California?

What's been your experience?
As far as I know, you can buy a car anywhere in the US and register it in your home state. I’ve bought several vehicles over the years from an out of state dealer. The only thing you have to deal with is sales tax. I’ve had to pay the tax to the state in which I purchased the car and get a credit on my home state taxes where I register it.
In fact I am buying my EQS from my out of state dealer at MSRP because in south Florida the dealers are adding an ADM.

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I haven't picked up my EQS yet (stuck in VPC) but my dealer is charging me straight MSRP. I'm using Fletcher Jones in Fremont
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Originally Posted by cyber3d
Hi members,

A couple of days ago we attended an EQS580 test drive event in SoCal. She is sold on the EQS580. I am torn between it and the Lucid AirGT. In truth, the EQS has the edge.

But, the dealership we usually buy our MB from, is quoting me a $35K upcharge for it. I wonder if I can go out of state if I register the car in California?

Are there any dealerships in CA that generally have a lower upcharge?

What's been your experience?
Mercedes in Riverside has a 580 coming in that’s “only” marked up by $20k.
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Originally Posted by LGBrandon
I was torn between Lucid AGT and EQS but realized more than half of Lucid is funded and owned by Mohammed Bin Salman (Saudi dictator), who brutally murdered a columnist at a US newspaper that did not agree with him. So I choose to go for the EQS. If lucid changes their ownership structure maybe I’ll consider them down the line.
You know. That is a big deal for me, personally. PIF owns 63% of Lucid at this time. It'll take a lot of convincing for me to buy a Lucid.
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You know. That is a big deal for me, personally. PIF owns 63% of Lucid at this time. It'll take a lot of convincing for me to buy a Lucid.
100% agreed. I am so surprised that quality publications like motor-trend, did not even disclose this fact in their car-of-the-year article, treating LUCID like the other "California start-up", Tesla. It is a Catch-22, they built a factory in Arizona which supports American jobs, but any profit goes directly to the same regime that indirectly supported the attacks on 9/11. Regardless, this is an EQS forum, and I am happy with my decision to have an order pending for the EQS. Best of luck with your search finding a dealer. In Texas, some dealers are not selling out-of-state.
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Originally Posted by LGBrandon
I was torn between Lucid AGT and EQS , but realized more than half of Lucid is funded and owned Mohammed Bin Salman (Saudi dictator), who brutally murdered a columnist at a US newspaper that did not agree with him. So I choose to go for the EQS. If lucid changes their ownership structure maybe I’ll consider them down the line.
Thanks LG I had no idea. I'm all in on EQS but if I was buying a LUCID it would give me cause.
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So, I placed my order for the EQS580 custom spec'd and no dealer upcharge at all. Our current dealer "was" Simonson in Santa Monica. But, we thought let's drive the same distance East instead of West and visit Beverly Hills Mercedes. What a difference. No bull**** from the sales staff. No upcharge. The dealership building is WOW.
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Originally Posted by cyber3d
So, I placed my order for the EQS580 custom spec'd and no dealer upcharge at all. Our current dealer "was" Simonson in Santa Monica. But, we thought let's drive the same distance East instead of West and visit Beverly Hills Mercedes. What a difference. No bull**** from the sales staff. No upcharge. The dealership building is WOW.
That's surprising since they're my closest dealer, and probably one of the worst I've dealt with. They wouldn't budge on a 30k ADM and the sales guy clearly didn't care to show me the car. Glad you had a better experience.
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That's surprising since they're my closest dealer, and probably one of the worst I've dealt with. They wouldn't budge on a 30k ADM and the sales guy clearly didn't care to show me the car. Glad you had a better experience.
That is the kind of reception I got at Simonson. Strange.
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Originally Posted by cyber3d
So, I placed my order for the EQS580 custom spec'd and no dealer upcharge at all. Our current dealer "was" Simonson in Santa Monica. But, we thought let's drive the same distance East instead of West and visit Beverly Hills Mercedes. What a difference. No bull**** from the sales staff. No upcharge. The dealership building is WOW.
Did you actually place an order with a PO number or are you just in the order bank?
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That's surprising since they're my closest dealer, and probably one of the worst I've dealt with. They wouldn't budge on a 30k ADM and the sales guy clearly didn't care to show me the car. Glad you had a better experience.
Yes, agreed. Beverly Hills MB is the worst. A lot of bait and switch there. I was promised an EQS 580 at $0 markup but when push came to shove the guy said it was not market value and wanted $40k above MSRP. I told him I'd pay $10k max above and they passed. I went with my local dealer in San Diego who has been much more transparent.
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I was able to get my EQS 450+ with Hyperscreen for a little under $18K markup. The dealer originally had it at a $35K markup. The models with Hyperscreens are getting the biggest markups, from what I have observed. I purchased mine from MB of Pleasanton. I felt the salesman, Ahmad, really did try to help me out with making the deal. I think they were more flexible because they had a prior deal fall through after the buyer stalled some and then it was still unsold after a few days.

The MSRP on the car was originally around $117k. Their first "deal" was to knock the markup down to $25k for a total of $142k before tax. I came back a few days later and offered $150k all-in with taxes and fees and they accepted, with the final price on the car just above $135k.

I hope this helps.
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I've had good luck with Calabasas Mercedes Benz.
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Oh dear. No actual P.O. I am now officially sad,
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Oh dear. No actual P.O. I am now officially sad,
Another bait and switch?
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Another bait and switch?
Anyone can place an order for a car. Fact is there are very few 580 allocations. When you go to order any Mercedes ask the dealer "Do you have an allocation for this car?"
If the answer is no ask "How long before you will?"

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