Suggestions...PPF or Ceramic?
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Not sure that is an pick one type of question as many people do a combination of both. On my matte black I did partial PPF and then full body ceramic coating. Each product has its own purpose.
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I have both - PPF full front end and ceramic coating everywhere including wheels.
If I had magno I would do full PPF.
I don't see a difference. My installer wrapped the edges and did a really nice job. Took them forever though!
If I had magno I would do full PPF.
I don't see a difference. My installer wrapped the edges and did a really nice job. Took them forever though!
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Ceramic is a long-term wax alternative, making it unbelievably easy to clean your rig. It also adds a ton of depth and shine to the paint. It does not protect against rock chips, scratches, or marring (regardless of what the marketing departments will tell you). I had it on my previous black G63 and it was really remarkable how well it kept the car looking clean, but even w a two bucket wash and big boi dryer it picked up light scratches that you can’t really correct out with out removing the coating.
PPF is meant to protect against rock chips and minor scratches, and works very well, but its very, very expensive. I got a quote for $7k to wrap my ‘16 63. Also, if you don't have it wrapped on the edges it can collect dirt and even peel w a pressure washer (and you shouldn’t go through a car wash with either Ceramic of PPF).
You can get a Ceramic coating for around $2,000, and that includes Decon/Clay/Polish prior to the coating. Brands I’d recommend are Optimum Opti-Coat Pro Plus, CarPro CQuartz UK 3.0, CarPro Finest Reserve, Gyeon Q2. I’ve stayed away from CarPro as all the detailers who sell it tend to be pedal the “lifetime” warranty that’s easily voided, and the need for multiple coatings that dont really add extra protection, just a bigger hole in your wallet. They’re the Chemical Guys of the Ceramic coating world (in my opinion).
If you’re keeping the G long term, I’d do PPF on front, fenders, and rear bumper; and Ceramic everywhere else.
Ceramic is a long-term wax alternative, making it unbelievably easy to clean your rig. It also adds a ton of depth and shine to the paint. It does not protect against rock chips, scratches, or marring (regardless of what the marketing departments will tell you). I had it on my previous black G63 and it was really remarkable how well it kept the car looking clean, but even w a two bucket wash and big boi dryer it picked up light scratches that you can’t really correct out with out removing the coating.
PPF is meant to protect against rock chips and minor scratches, and works very well, but its very, very expensive. I got a quote for $7k to wrap my ‘16 63. Also, if you don't have it wrapped on the edges it can collect dirt and even peel w a pressure washer (and you shouldn’t go through a car wash with either Ceramic of PPF).
You can get a Ceramic coating for around $2,000, and that includes Decon/Clay/Polish prior to the coating. Brands I’d recommend are Optimum Opti-Coat Pro Plus, CarPro CQuartz UK 3.0, CarPro Finest Reserve, Gyeon Q2. I’ve stayed away from CarPro as all the detailers who sell it tend to be pedal the “lifetime” warranty that’s easily voided, and the need for multiple coatings that dont really add extra protection, just a bigger hole in your wallet. They’re the Chemical Guys of the Ceramic coating world (in my opinion).
If you’re keeping the G long term, I’d do PPF on front, fenders, and rear bumper; and Ceramic everywhere else.
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'25 EQG deposit, '21 718 Spyder & '20 HD Fatboy
Both: PPF first (after a paint correction) and ceramic over the top. I have PPF on the forward-facing areas only (Suntek) and ceramic (Opt-Coat Pro) everywhere. And one cannot tell where the PPF stops unless you look for the seams albeit they are mostly wrapped edges.
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I think full PPF can be overkill, but if you’ve ever had a ceramic coated car it definitely looks better and is a hell of a lot easier to keep clean. It’s usually $300-500 more than what the paint correct costs, and in my opinion worth never waxing again.
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Just be aware that this isn’t true form their site, “ONYX Nano coating can protect the car from most scratches…”
Ceramic doesnt do that, so make sure you’re still careful to keep it looking great!
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I have a matte black coming today. What are your thoughts on PPF on full front bumper, full hood to windshield, full front fenders to the doors, side mirrors, and headlights for $2000? Thanks.
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I will be doing the same thing when mine arrives. I will do a good ceramic myself. I have the stuff to do that. But I have ran PPF for years on cars and wont anymore. I had a 911 fully done with film and all I did was chase edges that were always not quite sticking down. Even when wrapped behind panels I had a few issues. I have had it done on other vehicles with different wrappers with the same results for the most part. Then dealing with air bubbles and contamination under the stuff. I know a person who had a 911 like mine and she had a rock chip on the hood. It had the PPF on it for a few years. Well to fix the chip, now all the PPF had to come off since the chip got into the paint. Then when getting the old stuff up, it left a residue that had to be wet sanded off the hood by the body shop. Fix all of that, lose more clear coat from wet sanding, then pay to put film back on again. On the white vehicles I have had with it, it seems I could always see a dirt line on the edge of the film. Then to take care of the film with washing and waxing etc. It's amazing what a good airbrush or some hand talent with a small artist brush can do to fix a chip. Even feathered back into the paint, wet sanded, and cleared and polished. Thats just me, others will have different opinions.
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I will be doing the same thing when mine arrives. I will do a good ceramic myself. I have the stuff to do that. But I have ran PPF for years on cars and wont anymore. I had a 911 fully done with film and all I did was chase edges that were always not quite sticking down. Even when wrapped behind panels I had a few issues. I have had it done on other vehicles with different wrappers with the same results for the most part. Then dealing with air bubbles and contamination under the stuff. I know a person who had a 911 like mine and she had a rock chip on the hood. It had the PPF on it for a few years. Well to fix the chip, now all the PPF had to come off since the chip got into the paint. Then when getting the old stuff up, it left a residue that had to be wet sanded off the hood by the body shop. Fix all of that, lose more clear coat from wet sanding, then pay to put film back on a gain. On the white vehicles I have had with it, it seems I could always see a dirt line on the edge of the film. Then to take care of the film with washing and waxing etc. It's amazing what a good airbrush or some hand talent with a small artist brush can do to fix a chip. Even feathered back into the paint, wet sanded, and cleared and polished. Thats just me, others will have different opinions.
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