G Class (W465/W463A) W463 Produced 2019-2024: G550, G63 AMG W465 Produced 2025-

MB suspending sales of 2022 AMG V8 models

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 09-09-2021 | 07:00 PM
  #301  
cryptopreneur's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 95
Likes: 38
2018 Lamborghini Huracan Performante Spyder, 2021 G63
Originally Posted by Deezwho
it’s not illegal to sell your car to an exporter. It’s a violation of the no export agreement that MB makes you sign. If you get caught you could get banned from buying another car from them. Also dealers who get caught facilitating exporters can lose their allocations.
What if someone ordered a G63, sold it to someone like me who uses the car, but then I decide to sell it to an exporter after getting an insane offer.

Who's liable in this case? The person that placed the order and sold it to me?

Last edited by cryptopreneur; 09-09-2021 at 07:06 PM.
Old 09-09-2021 | 07:06 PM
  #302  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 15,252
Likes: 2,956
From: Toronto, Canada
PFL205.064 with M276.823 (Oil pump solenoid defeated)
Originally Posted by Deezwho
it’s not illegal to sell your car to an exporter. It’s a violation of the no export agreement that MB makes you sign. If you get caught you could get banned from buying another car from them. Also dealers who get caught facilitating exporters can lose their allocations.
I see, makes total sense, thanks for answering.
Old 09-09-2021 | 07:16 PM
  #303  
Wassaby's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 804
Likes: 247
From: US
2018 E400W4 EU Delivery 1999 E320 2022 E53 COUPE
Originally Posted by cryptopreneur
What if someone ordered a G63, sold it to someone like me who uses the car, but then I decide to sell it to an exporter after getting an insane offer.

Who's liable in this case? The person that placed the order and sold it to me?
The first buyer.
The following users liked this post:
cryptopreneur (09-09-2021)
Old 09-09-2021 | 07:31 PM
  #304  
W205C43PFL's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
 
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 15,252
Likes: 2,956
From: Toronto, Canada
PFL205.064 with M276.823 (Oil pump solenoid defeated)
Any laws to protect that first buyer, because isn't s/he victimized especially how his/her intention wasn't to sell the car to someone that decides to export it later on?
Old 09-09-2021 | 07:40 PM
  #305  
Izzone's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 166
Likes: 66
G63
I used to buy a supercharged RR autobiogrsphy every year

Black / black / black

Own them for 12 months snd a day and sell to exporter to russia, for what o paid for it

New one waiting for me at dealer

I went years never even chsnging the oil
Old 09-09-2021 | 08:15 PM
  #306  
Hodog16's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,280
Likes: 581
From: NC
2024 G63
Yes not illegal to export but any vehicle exported gets recorded, so I believe there's an easy way for Mercedes to track VINs and then source back to the selling dealer. The dealer gets penalized, and the first buyer gets recorded as an exporter and often can get banned.

That's why it's risky to buy a new G63 and sell it to somebody else immediately for profit, because the second buyer can export and then Mercedes gets mad at you.

I believe as Izzone says once it's been a year you can export all you want and Mercedes won't care so as a by-product the dealer won't either.
Old 09-09-2021 | 09:56 PM
  #307  
cryptopreneur's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 95
Likes: 38
2018 Lamborghini Huracan Performante Spyder, 2021 G63
Okay guys, going to do the following to my new G63:

Full front end PPF.
Chrome delete.
Will smoke indicator lights.
Full car ceramic pro (exterior + interior).
Front + rear window tints for a uniform side look.
Front windshield tint.

Can't wait to see how she'll turn out!

The G63 has always been my "dream" truck. Even though I'm a Lambo guy and love my performante, I chose the G63 over the Urus without even thinking twice. The road presence, the beautiful looks, the status, the "this guy runs this sh*t" vibe, is priceless. Completely different animal. I don't think any truck compares... maybe the Cullinan, but even then, I think the rear of the Cullinan is ugly.
The following users liked this post:
spourreza (09-09-2021)
Old 09-10-2021 | 11:25 AM
  #308  
300SE1993's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 917
Likes: 254
From: Northeast
2012 S350 Bluetec, 2014 GLK250 Bluetec, 2000 CLK320 Cabrio
Basically, the original purchaser is on the hook for 1 year. After that anything goes. There are some questions around enforceability, but best case you can never buy another new one. Worst case, the dealer can uphold the contract, which often includes a monetary penalty. Actually, I think the monetary penalty would be less than the profit potential by a big margin.
Old 09-10-2021 | 01:22 PM
  #309  
cryptopreneur's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 95
Likes: 38
2018 Lamborghini Huracan Performante Spyder, 2021 G63
Wow, the number of G Wagons (2019+) for sale in Canada has dropped from 60 to 40 in only 1 week. Most available now are 2019/2020. Very few 2021s left, brand new ones are non-existent. I've also noticed some dealers in BC jacking up their prices even more, lol.
Old 09-10-2021 | 09:31 PM
  #310  
cryptopreneur's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 95
Likes: 38
2018 Lamborghini Huracan Performante Spyder, 2021 G63
Guys, picked up my new G63 today!

Will send some pics after I get the PPF, chrome delete, etc. complete as it's at the shop now.

Quick question, the current tires are 295/40R 22.

For winter tires, I have brand new Pirelli Scorpion Winter tires that I bought for my Range Rover SVR but the car was totalled, so I never used the tires. They are 285/40R 22.

Will these be okay to use?
The following users liked this post:
FatTony001 (09-12-2021)
Old 09-10-2021 | 09:52 PM
  #311  
sweet63's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 207
Likes: 59
From: Utah and California
2024 G 63
Your 285/40 22 tires are 4/10 of an inch narrower than the OEM tires (very small difference). I put 285/45 22 winter tires on my 2020 G 63. No problems at all. I checked with the service department at my dealership, and they said it was fine.


Originally Posted by cryptopreneur
Guys, picked up my new G63 today!

Will send some pics after I get the PPF, chrome delete, etc. complete as it's at the shop now.

Quick question, the current tires are 295/40R 22.

For winter tires, I have brand new Pirelli Scorpion Winter tires that I bought for my Range Rover SVR but the car was totalled, so I never used the tires. They are 285/40R 22.

Will these be okay to use?
The following users liked this post:
cryptopreneur (09-10-2021)
Old 09-11-2021 | 11:12 AM
  #312  
harrish85's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 30
Likes: 13
Jetta
How much over sticker?
Old 09-11-2021 | 11:13 AM
  #313  
harrish85's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 30
Likes: 13
Jetta
Originally Posted by cryptopreneur
Okay guys, going to do the following to my new G63:

Full front end PPF.
Chrome delete.
Will smoke indicator lights.
Full car ceramic pro (exterior + interior).
Front + rear window tints for a uniform side look.
Front windshield tint.

Can't wait to see how she'll turn out!

The G63 has always been my "dream" truck. Even though I'm a Lambo guy and love my performante, I chose the G63 over the Urus without even thinking twice. The road presence, the beautiful looks, the status, the "this guy runs this sh*t" vibe, is priceless. Completely different animal. I don't think any truck compares... maybe the Cullinan, but even then, I think the rear of the Cullinan is ugly.
How much over sticker?
Old 09-11-2021 | 11:15 AM
  #314  
Poofyo101's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 135
Likes: 27
e92 ///M3
It absolutely sucks when the first question asked is how much over sticker you paid.
Old 09-11-2021 | 04:57 PM
  #315  
Craig B's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 759
Likes: 158
2018 Porsche 911 GT3 2021 Mercedes G 63
Originally Posted by cryptopreneur
Guys, picked up my new G63 today!

Will send some pics after I get the PPF, chrome delete, etc. complete as it's at the shop now.

Quick question, the current tires are 295/40R 22.

For winter tires, I have brand new Pirelli Scorpion Winter tires that I bought for my Range Rover SVR but the car was totalled, so I never used the tires. They are 285/40R 22.

Will these be okay to use?
Yes, those are the same tire and size I ran last winter and had no problems getting around. That’s the size my dealership recommended.
The following users liked this post:
cryptopreneur (09-11-2021)
Old 09-11-2021 | 05:00 PM
  #316  
cryptopreneur's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 95
Likes: 38
2018 Lamborghini Huracan Performante Spyder, 2021 G63
Originally Posted by Craig B
Yes, those are the same tire and size I ran last winter and had no problems getting around. That’s the size my dealership recommended.
Thanks Craig!

Good to know! Saves me around $5k Just need to find a new set of 22" rims. Any recommendations? Needs to be black!
Old 09-11-2021 | 05:03 PM
  #317  
Craig B's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 759
Likes: 158
2018 Porsche 911 GT3 2021 Mercedes G 63
Originally Posted by cryptopreneur
Thanks Craig!

Good to know! Saves me around $5k Just need to find a new set of 22" rims. Any recommendations? Needs to be black!
if they’re careful, they won’t damage your wheels, I had the dealership swap tires on my wheels. They’re storing my tires at the dealership also. You can look on EBay for a set of take off wheels if you don’t want to swap tires.
The following users liked this post:
cryptopreneur (09-11-2021)
Old 09-11-2021 | 05:07 PM
  #318  
Hodog16's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,280
Likes: 581
From: NC
2024 G63
Cheapest real set of black 22’s on eBay was US $6800 or so. Lots of aftermarket priced around $2000.

Ask your dealer if they know of any take offs. Mine connected me this week with a guy who had a set collecting dust in his office for the past year.
The following users liked this post:
cryptopreneur (09-11-2021)
Old 09-13-2021 | 12:14 PM
  #319  
Izzone's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 166
Likes: 66
G63
heard thru the grapevine, Range Rover sending out same memo on V8, said it was internal memo

they are going to use a six cylinder BMW engine as replacement

I haven't verified with my own eyes
Old 09-13-2021 | 12:21 PM
  #320  
eugenes's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 40
Likes: 7
model 3
Originally Posted by Izzone
heard thru the grapevine, Range Rover sending out same memo on V8, said it was internal memo

they are going to use a six cylinder BMW engine as replacement

I haven't verified with my own eyes
I would doubt this a bit because BMW is still selling their v8s for 2022 models without an issue.
MB can't sell it for 22 because either
1. the cylinder deactivation feature needs tons of chips (mentioned in this post).
or
2. MB can't meet the environmental restriction because they sell a whole lot more v8s than BMW.
Old 09-13-2021 | 12:48 PM
  #321  
Nik640's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 98
Likes: 14
From: Los Angeles
‘22 G63 ‘23 G63 4x4
I had a Defender V8 Carpathian edition on order and got a call from the dealer over a month ago that they were being pushed back to next year.
Old 09-13-2021 | 01:01 PM
  #322  
places's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 3,300
Likes: 1,496
From: Washington DC
No more MB:(
Originally Posted by eugenes
I would doubt this a bit because BMW is still selling their v8s for 2022 models without an issue.
MB can't sell it for 22 because either
1. the cylinder deactivation feature needs tons of chips (mentioned in this post).
or
2. MB can't meet the environmental restriction because they sell a whole lot more v8s than BMW.
BOTH
Old 09-14-2021 | 08:03 AM
  #323  
RAKLAW's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 319
Likes: 31
From: Westchester, NY. Sarasota, FL
2012 C63BS 2009 Ferrari 16M 2016 Cayenne turbo S 2019 G63
True.. I received my 2022 BMW X6M Competition 4,4 V8 W/O issue, 0n August 17th and the only option unavailable was wireless charging
Old 09-14-2021 | 09:38 AM
  #324  
uniqueMR's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 91
Likes: 31
From: USA
Hmmm
Ordered 2023 G63.
Delivering in Winter 2022 or Spring 2023
And no ADM. MSRP only.
Old 09-14-2021 | 10:25 AM
  #325  
streborx's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 3,370
Likes: 1,089
From: Colorado
G550
Originally Posted by uniqueMR
Ordered 2023 G63.
Delivering in Winter 2022 or Spring 2023
And no ADM. MSRP only.
Given all the bad experiences and lessons learned threads on this forum, do you have (a) a signed buyer's order that states "MSRP / No Additional Markup", (b) a copy of the build sheet, and (c) a receipt for the deposit you paid?


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: MB suspending sales of 2022 AMG V8 models



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:28 AM.