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Old 09-14-2021 | 12:10 PM
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Ordered 2023 G63.
Delivering in Winter 2022 or Spring 2023
And no ADM. MSRP only.
do you have PO# in the build contract? No PO no nothing.
Old 09-14-2021 | 01:21 PM
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My purchase documentation from 2 years ago when I ordered a G550 included (a) the build sheet (stating MSRP price subject to change) and (b) a simple 1-page purchase agreement (signed by me and by the SM) referencing the build sheet, the MSRP + ADM, and acknowledging the (non-refundable) $2500 deposit I paid. About 3 months later, when the vehicle was scheduled for production, I received an updated build sheet confirming the MSRP (itemized), and stating the PO# and VIN. I took delivery 4 weeks later.
The only hitch was that I had activated a credit report lock due to the Experian hack that had occurred, and despite having a bank check for the full purchase amount, the dealership still ran credit checks. It took me about 30 minutes to unlock my account so the dealer's finance guy could pull my report.
Old 09-14-2021 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 6601794
do you have PO# in the build contract? No PO no nothing.
You don’t get a PO number until you get an allocation, so nobody has a PO for a 2023 G63.
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Old 09-14-2021 | 03:26 PM
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Hmmm
Originally Posted by streborx
Given all the bad experiences and lessons learned threads on this forum, do you have (a) a signed buyer's order that states "MSRP / No Additional Markup", (b) a copy of the build sheet, and (c) a receipt for the deposit you paid?
Initially I placed an order in November 2020 for 2021 G63.
But my allocation was sold for $100k markup without even my knowledge. I am not doing any business with that dealership. Crooks

And yes I got my deposit back from them.

Now trying my luck with another local dealership and so far nothing over msrp, markup, etc. They took my order with delivery in Winter 2022/Spring 2023. I am stopping in today with deposit and clear up things. I am not paying markup or playing games

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Old 09-14-2021 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hodog16
You don’t get a PO number until you get an allocation, so nobody has a PO for a 2023 G63.
I will ask and confirm.
Merc might have control allocation until summer 2022. But at least get in the line for allocation and delivery. Merc dealership were very "confident" with delivery in early 2023 (winter/spring).
Means they have some info on Merc restarting the G.
2023 model year does start from Sep/Oct 2022.
Old 09-14-2021 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by uniqueMR
I will ask and confirm.
Merc might have control allocation until summer 2022. But at least get in the line for allocation and delivery. Merc dealership were very "confident" with delivery in early 2023 (winter/spring).
Means they have some info on Merc restarting the G.
2023 model year does start from Sep/Oct 2022.
Not sure if this helps, but my '21 was built 9/20
Old 09-14-2021 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by uniqueMR
I will ask and confirm.
Merc might have control allocation until summer 2022. But at least get in the line for allocation and delivery. Merc dealership were very "confident" with delivery in early 2023 (winter/spring).
Means they have some info on Merc restarting the G.
2023 model year does start from Sep/Oct 2022.
Well, money talks, you must be very important to this dealer, so that they choose not to make that 100K+ markup.
Old 09-15-2021 | 06:55 AM
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Who said they are suspending 2022 amg models? Thats bullsh*t , im receiving my MY22 G63 first of october (from germany)

Its only suspended in the US
Old 09-15-2021 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by uniqueMR
Ordered 2023 G63.
Delivering in Winter 2022 or Spring 2023
And no ADM. MSRP only.
Originally Posted by streborx
Given all the bad experiences and lessons learned threads on this forum, do you have (a) a signed buyer's order that states "MSRP / No Additional Markup", (b) a copy of the build sheet, and (c) a receipt for the deposit you paid?
This 100%. We've heard this before.
Old 09-15-2021 | 11:57 AM
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This 100%. We've heard this before.
Depends on the dealer

Personally ive never paid a dollar over msrp

I have one going into production for my wife,its at msrp, nothing in writing buy im 100 percent sure it will be. If u walk into my dealer for a stock truck they charge adm...not on existing relationship ordered truck

Dealers are out to maximize profit, and with the high overage over msrp i see why they do not sell to anyone
Old 09-15-2021 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzone
Depends on the dealer

Personally ive never paid a dollar over msrp

I have one going into production for my wife,its at msrp, nothing in writing buy im 100 percent sure it will be. If u walk into my dealer for a stock truck they charge adm...not on existing relationship ordered truck

Dealers are out to maximize profit, and with the high overage over msrp i see why they do not sell to anyone
If you have nothing in writing you have nothing at all (unless the dealership's owner is your father-in-law, and he really likes you).
Old 09-15-2021 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzone
Depends on the dealer

Personally ive never paid a dollar over msrp

I have one going into production for my wife,its at msrp, nothing in writing buy im 100 percent sure it will be. If u walk into my dealer for a stock truck they charge adm...not on existing relationship ordered truck

Dealers are out to maximize profit, and with the high overage over msrp i see why they do not sell to anyone
Vast majority of members here have also never paid over msrp so that's not really saying much.

As for msrp, unless in writing anything can happen. If the market supports a six figure ask at the time doubtful dealer passes that up. Buy history helps buy each dealer is different. Lots of dealer VIP's here paying over.
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Old 09-15-2021 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by streborx
If you have nothing in writing you have nothing at all (unless the dealership's owner is your father-in-law, and he really likes you).
possibly, I trust them...I've owned 7 G63 from them.....and they know if and when the new one comes out in 2023 I will trade my 21's in on the new one....im already on the wait list

I picked mine up three weeks ago, MSRP

there were two non spoken for cars, manager told me both sold at 75 over

my mistake was not taking the AMG black series they kept asking me to order at MSRP.....
Old 09-15-2021 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by A_M_K
Who said they are suspending 2022 amg models? Thats bullsh*t , im receiving my MY22 G63 first of october (from germany)

Its only suspended in the US
Old 09-16-2021 | 08:21 PM
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Your are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! No one has a PO for a 2023 G wagon or 2022 for that matter .
Anyone thinking this, needs to go back to the dealer because that is total fiction.
The allocation for each U.S. MB dealer for G Wagons is dwindling RAPIDLY! The closer the date gets to the end of the year -
the less of a chance an order for a 2021 will be completed. Unfortunately the window of actually getting one will close, sooner than later.
Hence, the value of the G Wagon will increase even further. Good luck!
Old 09-16-2021 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LUVmyGAMG
Your are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! No one has a PO for a 2023 G wagon or 2022 for that matter .
Anyone thinking this, needs to go back to the dealer because that is total fiction.
The allocation for each U.S. MB dealer for G Wagons is dwindling RAPIDLY! The closer the date gets to the end of the year -
the less of a chance an order for a 2021 will be completed. Unfortunately the window of actually getting one will close, sooner than later.
Hence, the value of the G Wagon will increase even further. Good luck!
Production will continue throught December 21
Many speculate that it would resume in late 22 as 23 models but 3 local dealers couldn't confirm.
Availability of 21 on Autotrader is decreasing, prices are going up slowly especially for models w less than 1500 miles
Old 09-16-2021 | 08:40 PM
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Any idea when dealers will be able to re-enter orders into the system?

I realize there is a lot of speculation here, but does anyone have any good information?
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Originally Posted by LUVmyGAMG
Your are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! No one has a PO for a 2023 G wagon or 2022 for that matter .
Anyone thinking this, needs to go back to the dealer because that is total fiction.
The allocation for each U.S. MB dealer for G Wagons is dwindling RAPIDLY! The closer the date gets to the end of the year -
the less of a chance an order for a 2021 will be completed. Unfortunately the window of actually getting one will close, sooner than later.
Hence, the value of the G Wagon will increase even further. Good luck!
False rumors like this need to stop. The G wagon was JUST released in 2019. It is MB's most profitable model. They are TEMPORARILY SUSPENDING production for PART OF 2022. There are many other manufacturers, Aston Martin being one for example that have AMG motors on order until 2023 / 2024 and beyond. While there may be alternative iterations of the G wagon there will be a 2023 AMG. All credible sources are leading us to believe it will be a V8. Unless you have pockets as deeper than the ocean hold your orders and your allocations and be optimistic about the 2023s. They will come. And for those asking where I'm getting this info from the GM at a very reputable dealer confirmed that this is the exact message from MB USA president.
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Old 09-16-2021 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by harrish85
False rumors like this need to stop. The G wagon was JUST released in 2019. It is MB's most profitable model. They are TEMPORARILY SUSPENDING production for PART OF 2022. There are many other manufacturers, Aston Martin being one for example that have AMG motors on order until 2023 / 2024 and beyond. While there may be alternative iterations of the G wagon there will be a 2023 AMG. All credible sources are leading us to believe it will be a V8. Unless you have pockets as deeper than the ocean hold your orders and your allocations and be optimistic about the 2023s. They will come. And for those asking where I'm getting this info from the GM at a very reputable dealer confirmed that this is the exact message from MB USA president.
No one is saying that MB will not make V8 anymore. They are pausing the production for 2022 and MB already announced the new GT 4 doors with V8.

On a different note, this month is the last month for G63 and G550 allocations. The lucky ones that got an allocation: Congrats!!!
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Yes, correct. But the market and world is acting as if there will be no more G wagons ever. That is not the case. In 8-12 months we will see a big correction on pre-owned G-Wagon prices.
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Old 09-16-2021 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Wassaby
No one is saying that MB will not make V8 anymore. They are pausing the production for 2022 and MB already announced the new GT 4 doors with V8.

On a different note, this month is the last month for G63 and G550 allocations. The lucky ones that got an allocation: Congrats!!!
how do you know its the last month? Was told they may produce 21s into 22.
Old 09-16-2021 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by harrish85
Yes, correct. But the market and world is acting as if there will be no more G wagons ever. That is not the case. In 8-12 months we will see a big correction on pre-owned G-Wagon prices.
Maybe but won't the already long wait list for a G63 grow even longer with an 8 month hiatus on the way... Demand will continue to exceed supply for quite some time.
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Maybe but won't the already long wait list for a G63 grow even longer with an 8 month hiatus on the way... Demand will continue to exceed supply for quite some time.
From what I’ve heard the hiatus is 4-6 months. But the market is presently pricing in premiums as if the G wagon will cease to exists. There are nearly 300 G63s for sale currently. Everyone is trying to cash in.
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Which rumor are you referring to? The fact that MB is not producing ’22 and ’23 G wagons til further notice? hence the reason why MB dealers can't take orders for the ’22 an ’23 G wagons? Or the rumor that the G wagon is the most profitable model for MB? The actual model that is the “Most PROFITABLE IS THE S CLASS, not the G Class. If the G class was the “ most profitable “ MB would produce more, after all, like all corporate entities they are all about profit. MB suspended all V8s EXCEPT The S Class. By the way, I have been driving a G wagon since 2001 ( the first time after its development in 1979) when MB USA made it available for the US market , it was not "just release" in 2019, the new and updated version was release in fall of 2018 for 2019.

CASE IN POINT:

See links:

https://www.businessinsider.com/merc...andemic-2020-9



https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...except-s-class

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Old 09-17-2021 | 07:06 AM
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Which rumor are you referring to? The fact that MB is not producing ’22 and ’23 G wagons til further notice? hence the reason why MB dealers can't take orders for the ’22 an ’23 G wagons? Or the rumor that the G wagon is the most profitable model for MB? The actual model that is the “Most PROFITABLE IS THE S CLASS, not the G Class. If the G class was the “ most profitable “ MB would produce more, after all, like all corporate entities they are all about profit. MB suspended all V8s EXCEPT The S Class. By the way, I have been driving a G wagon since 2001 ( the first time after its development in 1979) when MB USA made it available for the US market , it was not "just release" in 2019, the new and updated version was release in fall of 2018 for 2019.

CASE IN POINT:

See links:

https://www.businessinsider.com/merc...andemic-2020-9



https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...except-s-class


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