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Just got word from dealer that my g63 is in port awaiting for ship to be assigned to. SA also told me that my vehicle will be “MSRP+ Market rate minus order time frame”, which is ridiculous as I have the order sheet with a PO# along with bolded “MSRP” written on the top left corner that was sent to me back in April. Is the dealer trying to make a quick buck of me? Any advice would be greatly appreciated it!
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agree with the above... not much you can do unless you have someone with signing authority at the dealership agreeing to sell the G to you at MSRP.
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Pretty much no one has a signed contract other than the build sheet along with PO# and hope for not a shady dealer huh
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Just got word from dealer that my g63 is in port awaiting for ship to be assigned to. SA also told me that my vehicle will be “MSRP+ Market rate minus order time frame”, which is ridiculous as I have the order sheet with a PO# along with bolded “MSRP” written on the top left corner that was sent to me back in April. Is the dealer trying to make a quick buck of me? Any advice would be greatly appreciated it!
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If you placed a deposit on the order, you're in better legal standing than if the dealer insisted "no deposit necessary". Still, in either case, the dealer can (and will) do whatever it wants to do and make up numbers to suit itself. With no Gs in 2022 until further notice, it seems improbable you'll get a G63 at MSRP that you could sell the next day for 2x MSRP. I'd send my attorney to take delivery so that I wouldn't do something stupid and regrettable when "MSRP+ market rate minus order time frame" is revealed. Meanwhile, you need to decide how much more than MSRP you're willing to cough up. Keep in mind that the dealer will likely tag it even higher if you walk away, so it has negative incentive to negotiate (e.g. "take it or leave it - preferably leave it"). Regarding "tipping your SA" as is the discussion in another forum thread, I'd buy the biggest jar of Vaseline I could find (lol).
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Not sure what market you are in, but here in the Northeast I am hearing this is done quite a bit lately. A friend had ordered in December of 2020 same as me, but got the call that they were adding $50k to his deal. He was called prior to the 2022' announcement. My dealer honored my order, however he did mention that all orders after mine would get market ADM adjustments. I took deliver the Thursday prior to MB announcement. Judging from the latest Autotrader listing of used 2021's, there are now 10 at $300k or over and 32 @ $299k. I track these numbers for the hell of it and they continue to go up. If it were a temporary chip shortage alone, I would expect to see these numbers come down late 2022. But it's more than that, this may be the last year of pure naturally aspirated power plants for the G and that will play a part as well.
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Unless you have a signed PO agreement, there is no agreement other than a understanding of being added to a list of available allocations. I would bet this has been challenged before. Dealerships know exactly what they can and can't do legally.
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My guess is dealers are willing to bet that people aren't willing to spend the time and money to fight it and actually hope people walk away from orders.
I imagine they don't do it to too many people who they know are lawyers and can fight it on their own behalf or at least make life difficult.
All you guys with your black magno orders--the key is to order something like red or that doo-doo brown that would be really hard to sell so the dealer wants to honor the deal. In my case dealers actually told me if you order a red exterior your deposit is non-refundable!
I imagine they don't do it to too many people who they know are lawyers and can fight it on their own behalf or at least make life difficult.
All you guys with your black magno orders--the key is to order something like red or that doo-doo brown that would be really hard to sell so the dealer wants to honor the deal. In my case dealers actually told me if you order a red exterior your deposit is non-refundable!
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My guess is dealers are willing to bet that people aren't willing to spend the time and money to fight it and actually hope people walk away from orders.
I imagine they don't do it to too many people who they know are lawyers and can fight it on their own behalf or at least make life difficult.
All you guys with your black magno orders--the key is to order something like red or that doo-doo brown that would be really hard to sell so the dealer wants to honor the deal. In my case dealers actually told me if you order a red exterior your deposit is non-refundable!
I imagine they don't do it to too many people who they know are lawyers and can fight it on their own behalf or at least make life difficult.
All you guys with your black magno orders--the key is to order something like red or that doo-doo brown that would be really hard to sell so the dealer wants to honor the deal. In my case dealers actually told me if you order a red exterior your deposit is non-refundable!
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Had this happen on a 2000 BMW M5, I told them I was contacting my attorney. I had a signed buyers order. They quickly agreed to honor my deal at MSRP. I had a signed PO on my 2021 G 63. Always get things in writing and have them date and sign it.
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That was the order that was sent to me
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It meets the definition of an agreement...You have an offer and an acceptance. I suppose the additional ADM may be worth getting an actual legal interpretation. An hour with a good contract attorney may cost you $600. and well worth given the bump that the dealer is most likely looking for.
Actually I did not see this document. It's just a build list with no signature from either party.......I would say its questionable but I'm not an attorney.
Actually I did not see this document. It's just a build list with no signature from either party.......I would say its questionable but I'm not an attorney.
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It meets the definition of an agreement...You have an offer and an acceptance. I suppose the additional ADM may be worth getting an actual legal interpretation. An hour with a good contract attorney may cost you $600. and well worth given the bump that the dealer is most likely looking for.
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That’s the standard sheet we all get listing the MSRP of the build. Basically an early Maroney sticker.
I got it in writing from the SA that the vehicle would be delivered at current MSRP. If you have an email or a signed form that says MSRP you have a case. If all you have is that build sheet without any notations or signatures you don’t have a strong argument and can only hope you can call their bluff.
I got it in writing from the SA that the vehicle would be delivered at current MSRP. If you have an email or a signed form that says MSRP you have a case. If all you have is that build sheet without any notations or signatures you don’t have a strong argument and can only hope you can call their bluff.
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That’s the standard sheet we all get listing the MSRP of the build. Basically an early Maroney sticker.
I got it in writing from the SA that the vehicle would be delivered at current MSRP. If you have an email or a signed form that says MSRP you have a case. If all you have is that build sheet without any notations or signatures you don’t have a strong argument and can only hope you can call their bluff.
I got it in writing from the SA that the vehicle would be delivered at current MSRP. If you have an email or a signed form that says MSRP you have a case. If all you have is that build sheet without any notations or signatures you don’t have a strong argument and can only hope you can call their bluff.
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I’m not a lawyer but this is not a purchase order/contract.
There’s nothing written on this that says that it is a legally binding contract to buy the vehicle at an agreed upon price. Just as you have the ability to cancel the order at any time prior to signing the final sales contract so does the dealer.
also at the bottom it says “pricing subject to change” fwiw
that said, most dealers don’t want to waste their time and money dealing with your lawyer so that’s always an option you can throw at them and hope they cave.
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I’m not a lawyer but this is not a purchase order/contract.
There’s nothing written on this that says that it is a legally binding contract to buy the vehicle at an agreed upon price. Just as you have the ability to cancel the order at any time prior to signing the final sales contract so does the dealer.
also at the bottom it says “pricing subject to change” fwiw
that said, most dealers don’t want to waste their time and money dealing with your lawyer so that’s always an option you can throw at them and hope they cave.
There’s nothing written on this that says that it is a legally binding contract to buy the vehicle at an agreed upon price. Just as you have the ability to cancel the order at any time prior to signing the final sales contract so does the dealer.
also at the bottom it says “pricing subject to change” fwiw
that said, most dealers don’t want to waste their time and money dealing with your lawyer so that’s always an option you can throw at them and hope they cave.
