Sure there can be 4 year wait lists. Say a dealer knows they get 5 allocations a year and have 15 names on their list, that’s a three year wait.

The main problem becomes staff turnover and how strict does the dealer stick to the list. Surely not everybody commits to purchasing when their name is called as well.

Dealer has no reason to hype anything up. I told them I already have one, so just want to get on the list for another.

 

The current market will reveal how many are cash buyers who can't be bothered to ask the price.

 

$50K ADM for a new one seems like such a bargain given what I got for mine with 8500 miles. Market insanity!

 

Articles in today's WSJ indicate (1) new car prices are up 11% over the past 12 months, (2) 87% of new cars are being sold at or above MSRP, (3) the feds and the Fed have increased the money supply by 40% over the past 24 months, and (4) overall, prices are up 10% since January.

MB dealers asking 2x MSRP for Gs aren't monopolizing insanity.

 

Dealers are asking for double MSRP for 23 models. I tried.

 

Incidentally, MB is not stopping production of the G63 in 2022, they are just flooding the US market with as many 2021 cars as possible before having to apply for DOT recertification for the 2023 model which will be produced in the 2nd half of 2022. Rest of the world will be receiving 2022 models while the US dealers sell all the piled up 2021s. In the last 13 years since the G class was officially imported to the US I never recall more than 100-200 cars for sale nationwide. Now we have more than 800, 2019-2021 for sale and dealers keep calling it a shortage. If this demand continues then the G class is officially the new S Class and you can expect MB to crank imports further from the current staggering 8000 units a year to 25,000 or more per year and regular production cycle updates every 4/7 years especially if the new S class does not sell as well. There is a new G wagon now at every corner and at every mall and every building.

 

The reason there are so many for sale is they are still selling on the used market for high prices and people that see dollars over having the vehicle sold their unit. I am sure most people that sold theirs didn't do it because of a possible bumper change or some other little gizmo inside. The G wagon will never be mass produced so much it's like a cookie cutter vehicle on every corner. It will stay allocated and exclusive. When they produce the last 21s at the end of this year, production stops for a while, and the used cars will be bought. There will be more demand and good luck getting a great deal after the new ADMs come out from dealers. If the factory can only produce so many a year worldwide, and the dealers only get so many, and demand is high, those used ones will look real appealing. And the lists and desirability will grow and continue.

 

It already is mass produced... Sure demand will remain high but supply will drastically improve. We're literally experiencing this with most goods and resources right now. Cars, watches, furniture, wood, metal, chips etc. are all hyper inflated at the moment so not sure why you think the G is in its own bubble. A Rolex turquoise OP (their entry level watch) is going for 5x over retail.... Hell even Kia SUV's are going over sticker. This will not last forever and the V8 will return. Don't listen to salesmen who have already gotten you to believe the hype so they can squeeze ADM's out of rich chumps. If you have an extra $50-$100k burning a hole in your pocket and you want to give to scummy dealership then by all means. Regardless of cash flow, if you have common sense you will wait these ADM's out because those same people will see their ADM's vanish when they go to sell down the line.

 

Of course it is mass produced but not like a run of the mill car or truck, they cant keep up with demand. Tell me where you see 100 new units on a lot at any given time. They are still allocated as well. I guess to you it may seem I think it is in its own bubble. Well maybe because thats what we are talking about in the threads lol. Common since says cereal is too but we weren't talking about that. So demand is and always will be high. Unless they put out like the big 3 do. And of course the price bubble will bust at some point, but in the mean time it is what it is. Some people wont wait ADMS out. It's human nature that if a person wants something they will pay. Proof is in the pudding right now. I got mine at MSRP so not worried about over paying at this point. I like good deals too (:

 

Pricing is going to come down.

 

Always does, eventually. Until then, it's fun to watch.

 

Facelift G and once the new Range Rover starts arriving will certainly shake things up.

 

My guess is that most posters commenting that pricing is going to come down don't currently have one and are trying to talk pricing down because they want to get one without paying way over MSRP. I guess it's also fair to say that those of us that currently have one, are hoping pricing continues to go up. But setting aside personal bias, if production is going down for sure, (pause/stop in USA G-Class production after 12/31/21 -- No 2022 model year G-Class for USA), then doesn't it stand to reason that supply will go down and pricing will go up? I'm not sure what I'm missing. Also during the pause in production, more people will keep adding their names to the list (without names coming off the list because no deliveries are being made during this time). So the list grows and so does the dealer mark-up ? I guess general inflation is the other factor... how much of the price escalation is due simply to inflation. Apparently used car values in general are up like 30% in value from a year ago. Since the current G-Wagon MSRP was set over a year ago -- on a $150k car, that could account for about $45k alone. Crazy times.

 

I agree and yes if its 45K due to inflation, then tack on another 55K because people just want it. If people want something bad enough they will pay. Not all, but many are right now! (:

 

New Range Rover arriving will cause G prices down? That's funny. I've owned two SVRs before I got my first G. I would never give up a G for a Range Rover. The new facelift is a longer Velar, nothing special. Back looks like a Kia. Looks are subjective, but they failed poorly on the back. They also failed miserably in making it unique. The "BIG Range Rover" should've been a special one and not just a bigger velar. Even the interior is from the Jaguar F Pace/Velar. The old ones look way better.

 

I need prices to stop going up, otherwise I'll be too tempted to sell.

 

It went through my mind more than once too. lol It could be here any day. I am 10 month into it now and getting anxious (:

 

But why sell a truck whose value continues to increase for a fistfull of greenbacks that the Fed is determined to devalue 10% per year? Sell the truck, bank the cash and in 5 years you can afford a Hyundai. Thanks, but I'm keeping the G.

 

I am not selling. I am gonna get it and do a road trip to get a hot ham n cheese and a Dr Pepper with my girlfriend and our rat dog (:

 

Right now I'm thinking it's like a stock you bought at a good price and has gone up. Sell it and take the profits and when it drops again buy it back.

In this instance cash in and take the profit and then get another G later on. In a perfect world I'd get another allocation next year, but that depends on Mercedes starting things up again without delays and the dealer not being shady.

I can be without a G for 6-9 months for $50k+ profit, but over a year I'd rather just keep the vehicle. Probably the best play is to see how things look in the spring and enjoy it in the meantime.

 

The $50K profit will be a taxable gain (figure 25%), next year's MSRP could rise 10% ($18K) for inflation, and a hybrid configuration could add $20K. Buyers are paying $100K ADMs now - most won't care if this changes to MSRPs up $35K with $65K ADMs. Can't wait for MB dealers to brag about holding the line on pricing. I'm keeping what I have.

 

That’s the rub and probably why I haven’t made a move yet—the unknown.

What I really want to know before doing anything is when will production start up again and what will MSRP be. I will get MSRP pricing when it’s my turn again, but I do wonder if people will jump the line by offering to pay more.

 

Be interesting to see the new pricing and where everything goes!

 

Yeah, money talks louder than loyalty, and a PHEV will draw a larger crowd of environmentally conscientious well-heeled buyers looking for tax credits.

 

They can have their tax credits up front, then when they get their electric road tax usage fee to replace the loss of petro taxes, they will screaaaaaam lol. Battery technology and range, no big deal. I can plug in to a cactus out here in the desert lol