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Can anyone suggest/vouch for a quiet 295/40R21 tire? Currently have the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 SUV. Everything about these tires have been positive except for road noise.
I've been running Lexani's myself the last three sets, and haven't ever had an issue
Do you order them on line or is there a retailer you buy from? Assuming all the parameters are met, (alignment, balanced, etc.) do the tires get even close to 30k miles as they advertise? The Michelin's I'm running now will actually get lose to 30,000 by the time I need new tires.
I get mine online. Check Amazon, ebay, and onlinetires for the deals. I don't see a reason they won't last 30k on an X164 550. No rear tire will last 30k on the GL63. I can get that out of the fronts but with the rear tires I'm happy if I can get the tires to last as long as a the time between an oil change.
I have some serious negative camber clearly in the front.
Did those tires spend any time on the rear? I found my rear suspension had enough negative camber to wear the inside shoulder.
You can monitor your tire wear with a tread depth gauge. When you do this, you will likely abandon the door plate inflation pressures, and will go about tweaking your suspension settings. Don't just settle for "within spec". The alignment shop may refuse to adjust to outside spec, but you can at least push to one side of the range. Rear camber, for example, is spec'd at -2.5 to -1.5 degrees.
Did those tires spend any time on the rear? I found my rear suspension had enough negative camber to wear the inside shoulder.
You can monitor your tire wear with a tread depth gauge. When you do this, you will likely abandon the door plate inflation pressures, and will go about tweaking your suspension settings. Don't just settle for "within spec". The alignment shop may refuse to adjust to outside spec, but you can at least push to one side of the range. Rear camber, for example, is spec'd at -2.5 to -1.5 degrees.
Eric,
Yes these tires were on the rear at one point.
I will let my indy know today about alignment specs but I've always taken it to my local MB dealership due to a "special rim attachment".
If anyone has specific alignment specs please advise.
I will let my indy know today about alignment specs but I've always taken it to my local MB dealership due to a "special rim attachment".
If anyone has specific alignment specs please advise.
In hindsight, you kinda have to take responsibility for the alignment results. I didn't think about the fact that the vehicle was sitting with a bunch of negative camber in the rear. No wonder I was getting inside shoulder wear. The lower profile your tires, the more profoundly camber affects tire wear. I just found the rear camber adjuster and cranked it all the way positive. Eyeballing it I'd say the camber is near zero now, though I do not have a good way of verifying it directly.
This is the worksheet the shop gave me. "Actual" = After. Kinda bummed they did not crank the Front Left camber to the minimum, as is the Front Right.
Presumably the shop has the specs correct. I did not check in WIS.
In hindsight, you kinda have to take responsibility for the alignment results. I didn't think about the fact that the vehicle was sitting with a bunch of negative camber in the rear. No wonder I was getting inside shoulder wear. The lower profile your tires, the more profoundly camber affects tire wear. I just found the rear camber adjuster and cranked it all the way positive. Eyeballing it I'd say the camber is near zero now, though I do not have a good way of verifying it directly.
This is the worksheet the shop gave me. "Actual" = After. Kinda bummed they did not crank the Front Left camber to the minimum, as is the Front Right.
Presumably the shop has the specs correct. I did not check in WIS.
I don't think camber is adjustable in the front. If there was means of adjustment, I sure didn't see it when I did the control arms.
I picked it up 3 years ago with pirelli PZeros in the 295/40R21 variety, about 40% left on the tires. Didn't measure with tire gauge. The car was darting over bumps and road ruts so much that I had to fight the wheel. Part of this was related to a stuck height sensor. The darting was much less with winter tires I purchased new, Nokian Hakka 255/55R19, the tire is suitable for SUVs. Not OE size but I go for the smallest possible contact patch in the winter.
Fast forward to late fall last year when the Pirellis, now fully worn, were tossed for DWS06. Drove and loved the tires for 2 weeks, good in 2-3 inch snow, behaved well in cold, dry and little bit of wet weather. Back on the car again this year in early June, same sentiments on dry and wet pavement. I took the car on a road trip and noticed that I had a vibration at around 120-130kph. Lower speeds didn't show any vibration. I thought the tires would need Road Force balancing, but never got to that point (more on this later). I drove through a torrential downpour with about 1500 km on the tires. The car was rock solid! I have not felt more confident driving at 40-60 kph in such weather before. Visibility was a much bigger concern than hydroplaning.
The DWS06 were quiet until about worn out (again, more on that in a bit) and started darting at about 3 or 4/32" but not nearly as bad as the Pirellis. Keep in mind that the 06s and the 06 Plus will not be that good in snow when the S on the tread is worn out, and not so good in wet when the W is worn out. I will not say anything about longevity because my experience was tainted by a miserably bad alignment which ate my front tires completely in about 7000 km and the rears were at 4/32. Unfortunately with the bad toe and camber setup on the front, the tires were feathered by the time I got them to a shop and there was nothing that could be done but replacing them. Rear alignment had too much toe as well.
I just replaced them with Geolandar XCV G057 (and fresh alignment from a shop that seems to know what they're doing, unlike the last one). No major impressions yet, other than the very short drive from the shop to home a couple of days ago. No darting and smooth, quiet ride so far. Tires were Road Force balanced this time on request.
Will post impressions on the Geolandars once I have some.
Following. About to buy a new set as well. The Yokohama Geolandar X-CV are on my list of potentials, along with the new Bridgestone Alenza A/S Ultra. If anyone had opinions on those...
I've not run the Alenzas so no first hand experience with them. On paper, to me, the Geolandars looked like a better winter performer and quieter as well based on customer reviews. I looked at tirerack and other review sites. Longevity of the Geolandars remains to be seen.
That said, I don't expect either to perform as well as a winter tire in cold temps and snow. I run a dedicated winter wheel/tire set with Nokian Hakkapeliittas.
The Lexani tires didn't do bad at all compared to the Continentals DWS. I even went through snow and i would like to say they did better than Continental.
My only complaint thus far is the Lexani's are much much louder than the Continentals.
07-04-2021, 08:53 AM
