Hi from Land Down Under - Australia
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Ok, has anyone had aftermarket CarPlay fitted to 2016-2018 GLC with Command ?
I have found an installer in Melbourne who can supply and fit and not compromise Command system or functions.
I’m thinking having maps etc cheaper in long run than paying yearly fee for updates that are already ‘old’.
Also found company (China) who sells full featured TPMS for early GLC that integrates with Command system and you can see real time tyre pressure and temps.
Has anyone bothered to fit this as well ?
Thanks
I have found an installer in Melbourne who can supply and fit and not compromise Command system or functions.
I’m thinking having maps etc cheaper in long run than paying yearly fee for updates that are already ‘old’.
Also found company (China) who sells full featured TPMS for early GLC that integrates with Command system and you can see real time tyre pressure and temps.
Has anyone bothered to fit this as well ?
Thanks
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Update for GLC 250D RHD
GLC, RHD 2020. DATA.
note, this data is for air suspension, not standard steel springs.
will post other data later this week.
GLC, RHD 2020. DATA.
note, this data is for air suspension, not standard steel springs.
will post other data later this week.
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Has anyone looked at these – looks like a good option
https://www.xtremecardeco.com/online...***-p157486001
Some options i have found, one in UK and another three in Melb.
1. https://integratedautomotive.co.uk/p...o-upgrade-kit/. – no idea if they have a rep in Oz.
2. http://www.autofidelity.com.au/. About $1600 unit and fitting complete ready to use.
3. Third one in Clayton from memory, listed by others in earlier posts here. Found it – NaviPlus.
https://www.naviplus.com.au/online-s...-5-5-c32574009
See link to 2018 article for a different MB model that had it fitted, positive review.
https://www.mercedescla.org/threads/...-anyone.36073/
4. https://www.xtremecardeco.com/online-store
any other info appreciated, with costs or concerns.
https://www.xtremecardeco.com/online...***-p157486001
Some options i have found, one in UK and another three in Melb.
1. https://integratedautomotive.co.uk/p...o-upgrade-kit/. – no idea if they have a rep in Oz.
2. http://www.autofidelity.com.au/. About $1600 unit and fitting complete ready to use.
3. Third one in Clayton from memory, listed by others in earlier posts here. Found it – NaviPlus.
https://www.naviplus.com.au/online-s...-5-5-c32574009
See link to 2018 article for a different MB model that had it fitted, positive review.
https://www.mercedescla.org/threads/...-anyone.36073/
4. https://www.xtremecardeco.com/online-store
any other info appreciated, with costs or concerns.
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In the last 7 days, I have met 3 other GLC owners who had no knowledge of the Kunckle fix.
Several had recent services as well as needing more tyres, no one at the dealerships told them about the ‘fix’.
They are now returning to challenge staff for the knuckle fix.
Sad that there appears to be no ethical approach.
Surely there needs to be a review of ‘recall’ or self disclosure rules for auto owners, supporting only those owners who are savvy enough to have the time and technical drive to seek a solution, as opposed accepting the ‘characteristic’ story is frankly quite shameful.
Pay forward and let other owners you see know of their options, before the knuckle free fix is withdrawn.
Several had recent services as well as needing more tyres, no one at the dealerships told them about the ‘fix’.
They are now returning to challenge staff for the knuckle fix.
Sad that there appears to be no ethical approach.
Surely there needs to be a review of ‘recall’ or self disclosure rules for auto owners, supporting only those owners who are savvy enough to have the time and technical drive to seek a solution, as opposed accepting the ‘characteristic’ story is frankly quite shameful.
Pay forward and let other owners you see know of their options, before the knuckle free fix is withdrawn.
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Here are some current pricing.
GLC 250d series.
Trade engine oil filter = $42.47. ( service charge $47.19)
Trade air filter = $120.45. (Service charge $133.83)
Trade particle filter = $124.23 (service charge $133.83)
Trade Combination filter = $52.11 (service charge $57.90)
Trade Fuel filter = $226.81 (service charge $252.01)
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Service charge for following =
Adblue 10 litres = $34.45
MB diesel oil, 6l, 229.51pc = $102.00
Wheel align = $275..... Discounted to $172 for loyalty .
3 yr service Plus A – Opt Pana sliding roof service = $152.
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Happy to list trade prices for brakes, but I think I did a few pages ago.
I should point out the Trade prices were from the same Dealer, from their Spare parts shop and I requested trade discount after they first gave me retail pricing.
Service prices off invoice from recent car service.
Next time when they service car I will have some of these consumables in a box on front seat, not a lot of savings, but all helps.
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GLC 250d series.
Trade engine oil filter = $42.47. ( service charge $47.19)
Trade air filter = $120.45. (Service charge $133.83)
Trade particle filter = $124.23 (service charge $133.83)
Trade Combination filter = $52.11 (service charge $57.90)
Trade Fuel filter = $226.81 (service charge $252.01)
——————————-
Service charge for following =
Adblue 10 litres = $34.45
MB diesel oil, 6l, 229.51pc = $102.00
Wheel align = $275..... Discounted to $172 for loyalty .
3 yr service Plus A – Opt Pana sliding roof service = $152.
———————————
Happy to list trade prices for brakes, but I think I did a few pages ago.
I should point out the Trade prices were from the same Dealer, from their Spare parts shop and I requested trade discount after they first gave me retail pricing.
Service prices off invoice from recent car service.
Next time when they service car I will have some of these consumables in a box on front seat, not a lot of savings, but all helps.
Cheers
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Brake prices
250d 2015-2018 approx, based on VIN.
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Trade from Dealer Spare Parts counter.
FR Brake Disc = $323.00
TS Disk brake pad = $210.40
Brake pad wear sensor = $15.00
Rear brake disc = $147.27
TS Disc Brake pad = $145.27
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All up with a full set of brakes incl GST = $1458.85
Cheers
250d 2015-2018 approx, based on VIN.
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Trade from Dealer Spare Parts counter.
FR Brake Disc = $323.00
TS Disk brake pad = $210.40
Brake pad wear sensor = $15.00
Rear brake disc = $147.27
TS Disc Brake pad = $145.27
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All up with a full set of brakes incl GST = $1458.85
Cheers
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Here is the other 250d wheel alignment data, this one for the steel spring set up.
I have not compared settings yet to confirm if there is an actual difference between air suspension and steel suspension.
Hope this helps, data is March 2020, RHD market, with knuckle replacement fitted.
I have not compared settings yet to confirm if there is an actual difference between air suspension and steel suspension.
Hope this helps, data is March 2020, RHD market, with knuckle replacement fitted.
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Online chatter here in Oz is that after 1 March, 2020 any new Mercedes registered for road use will now be covered for 5 years OEM warranty.
Other German sellers have not announced anything, yet- new vehicle sales here worst since GFC, hopefully this will help lift new car sales for MB.
Other German sellers have not announced anything, yet- new vehicle sales here worst since GFC, hopefully this will help lift new car sales for MB.
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Mercedes have added new accessories for earlier GLC family- namely front and rear dash cams.
wire pack, adhesive pack and micro SD card pack. Complete system excluding install with 32Gb MB card is close to AU$1200. SD card is expensive at $101 for 32Gb card.
Front A2139055310
rear. A2139055510
wire A2138209303
Does anyone have Data, specs on these units ?
Any copies of tech bulletins or install guidance ?
Any additional info how it works, wifi, Bluetooth, ?
Thanks
wire pack, adhesive pack and micro SD card pack. Complete system excluding install with 32Gb MB card is close to AU$1200. SD card is expensive at $101 for 32Gb card.
Front A2139055310
rear. A2139055510
wire A2138209303
Does anyone have Data, specs on these units ?
Any copies of tech bulletins or install guidance ?
Any additional info how it works, wifi, Bluetooth, ?
Thanks
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Update. Re MB dash cam.
Data seems to indicate.
- 1080p
- audio
- supercapacitor
- GPS
- WiFi module
- Smartphone app control
App called Mercedes-Benz Dashcam.
This seems to control most functions including downloads.
No idea if software has ability to hover over areas and magnify like Thinkware or Blackvue.
Site in Germany, Mercteil, has them listed with FedEx delivery.
https://mercteil.com/products/40?mai...it=12&offset=0
Aust price front camera only is RRP $831, can get it for $756 from MB Dealer with discount.
German site price is Euro 362, incl delivery that approx converts to AU $608, so about $150 cheaper from them, unknown is customs or final currency conversion depending on PayPal or bank data.
https://translate.google.com.au/tran...m/&prev=search
Cameras now in Oz data base, no stock in Oz or Singapore hub comes from Germany, allow about 4 weeks delivery to Dealer.
Cheers
Data seems to indicate.
- 1080p
- audio
- supercapacitor
- GPS
- WiFi module
- Smartphone app control
App called Mercedes-Benz Dashcam.
This seems to control most functions including downloads.
No idea if software has ability to hover over areas and magnify like Thinkware or Blackvue.
Site in Germany, Mercteil, has them listed with FedEx delivery.
https://mercteil.com/products/40?mai...it=12&offset=0
Aust price front camera only is RRP $831, can get it for $756 from MB Dealer with discount.
German site price is Euro 362, incl delivery that approx converts to AU $608, so about $150 cheaper from them, unknown is customs or final currency conversion depending on PayPal or bank data.
https://translate.google.com.au/tran...m/&prev=search
Cameras now in Oz data base, no stock in Oz or Singapore hub comes from Germany, allow about 4 weeks delivery to Dealer.
Cheers
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Some interesting results, both by manuf and by models.
This is for UK and some results reflect their annual MoT inspections, so maybe some owner bias removed.
Some models not in Oz, VW does poorly in some areas as too Land Rover.
Skoda and Lexus doing quite well across models.
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/honest-...0-the-results/
Hope you enjoyed various reports, given UK is RHD and some models make their way to Oz and results I Think are a better reflection of data as opposed USA J. D. Power reports - which are well respected as well..
This is for UK and some results reflect their annual MoT inspections, so maybe some owner bias removed.
Some models not in Oz, VW does poorly in some areas as too Land Rover.
Skoda and Lexus doing quite well across models.
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/honest-...0-the-results/
Hope you enjoyed various reports, given UK is RHD and some models make their way to Oz and results I Think are a better reflection of data as opposed USA J. D. Power reports - which are well respected as well..
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To all our friends in Oz, USA, UK etc.
I found a data sheet for an E-Class for comprehensive service schedules - about 4 pages.
Looking for similar tabular matrix for Km (miles) and action items to be covered.
Realise some markets do not have diesel, but happy for petrol data, I assume similar requirements.
Most interested in caring for Auto Transmission over life of Veh, Is it a sealed unit or can it be opened and oil fluid and filter(s) replaced ? When should this occur ?
I have read of certain Volvo’s SUV have sealed for life auto transmission, but ‘life’ is around 160,000km, with a number of owners having issues around 125,000km - they have found Indy mechanics who can open up, replace fluids and filters and Auto fixed.
No idea if GLC is ‘sealed for life’ ?
This is a copy of the E Class data sheet, ..... File Type: pdf
14 E maint.pdf (165.3 KB, 26 views)
Hopefully there is a GLC equivalent.
Thanks
I found a data sheet for an E-Class for comprehensive service schedules - about 4 pages.
Looking for similar tabular matrix for Km (miles) and action items to be covered.
Realise some markets do not have diesel, but happy for petrol data, I assume similar requirements.
Most interested in caring for Auto Transmission over life of Veh, Is it a sealed unit or can it be opened and oil fluid and filter(s) replaced ? When should this occur ?
I have read of certain Volvo’s SUV have sealed for life auto transmission, but ‘life’ is around 160,000km, with a number of owners having issues around 125,000km - they have found Indy mechanics who can open up, replace fluids and filters and Auto fixed.
No idea if GLC is ‘sealed for life’ ?
This is a copy of the E Class data sheet, ..... File Type: pdf
14 E maint.pdf (165.3 KB, 26 views)
Hopefully there is a GLC equivalent.
Thanks
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Well its time for a mid life GLC upgrade.
Just purchased Dash Cam – Thinkware U1000 4K front camera, 2K rear camera with Radar parking sensor too.
Will probably have it installed by local firm to save sleepless night thinking about which terminals to use in fuse box !!
Gave up buying the MB dash cam as no details easily avail and no specs as to camera or processor.
Will update here in a week or two after items arrive and booking made for install.
Just purchased Dash Cam – Thinkware U1000 4K front camera, 2K rear camera with Radar parking sensor too.
Will probably have it installed by local firm to save sleepless night thinking about which terminals to use in fuse box !!
Gave up buying the MB dash cam as no details easily avail and no specs as to camera or processor.
Will update here in a week or two after items arrive and booking made for install.
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Found this on Aust forum.M-B Aust looking to do a Honda. Fixed price cars in the future.
https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/big-changes-for-mercedes-benz-retailing-in-2022-124853
Dealers will only deliver, offer test drives and attend to pre delivery and servicing - no price negotiations........
Does USA or UK have same retail model ??
https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/big-changes-for-mercedes-benz-retailing-in-2022-124853
Dealers will only deliver, offer test drives and attend to pre delivery and servicing - no price negotiations........
Does USA or UK have same retail model ??
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This is from Australian GLC member site and links to UK GLC site.
Concerns ‘DieselGate” in UK recall and if Australian owners of diesels might be affected ?Has anyone heard about this 'dieselgate' software upgrade in the UK : https://www.glcforums.com/threads/di...on-claim.7478/
Any idea whether or not Australian diesel GLCs are similarly affected?
Any info greatly appreciated.
Concerns ‘DieselGate” in UK recall and if Australian owners of diesels might be affected ?Has anyone heard about this 'dieselgate' software upgrade in the UK : https://www.glcforums.com/threads/di...on-claim.7478/
Any idea whether or not Australian diesel GLCs are similarly affected?
Any info greatly appreciated.
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https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/24/2...-cheating-fine
Mercedes-Benz parent company Daimler has been hit with an €870 million (roughly $960 million) fine as part of a settlement with German prosecutors over the automaker’s own diesel cheating scandal. The fine comes in at the lower end of what was expected earlier this year.
The news comes just about four years to the day after Volkswagen’s Dieselgate scandal was exposed by the Environmental Protection Agency and California’s Air Resources Board. Volkswagen’s massive emissions cheating scandal, which affected 11 million cars worldwide, kicked off several investigations and lawsuits that helped uncover similar efforts at automakers like Daimler to skirt regulations on diesel vehicles.
Germany’s motor authority found that some 280,000 Mercedes-Benz C-class and E-class vehicles had been outfitted with software that made them look cleaner than they were during testing, similar to the grift that Volkswagen had pulled (though on a smaller scale). That led to a wider recall of some 700,000 affected vehicles around the world last year. Daimler also had to recall 60,000 GLK SUVs for the same issue earlier this year. The extent of Daimler’s cheating is still unknown, as an investigation by the US Department of Justice and a class action lawsuit in New Jersey are still ongoing.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/i...emissions-case
https://www.caradvice.com.au/795645/...on-compliance/
https://www.caradvice.com.au/782955/...t-fine-report/
C & E Class vehicles.
https://www.engadget.com/2019-09-24-...nx9_R8uNoQjELD
Incl GLC Coupes ?
https://www.engadget.com/2019-06-24-...er-recall.html
GLC included in Europe.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-d...-idUSKBN1W91KW
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/i...defeat-devices
In the UK, Mercedes faces increasing pressure to recall the affected cars: “We are aware of the issue of ‘defeat devices’ in some Mercedes models and we are in communication with Mercedes-Benz UK about the matter. Mercedes have not yet notified us of an official recall so we are pressing them on this point and have given them until 22 June to respond,” said Ian Bartlett, head of DVSA’s vehicle safety branch and market surveillance unit.
Daimler is the parent company of Mercedes.
Among the models said to be affected are the 1.6-litre Vito 111 CDI and the 2.0-litre C220d and GLC 220d.
The KBA has not indicated the age of the cars involved, although officials suggest they include latest-generation models with Euro 6 emissions certification.
News of the recall comes after the German transport minister, Andreas Scheuer, met with Mercedes chairman Dieter Zetsche in Berlin to discuss what has been described as “irregularities in independent test results of various Mercedes-Benz models featuring the German car maker’s turbocharged four-cylinder diesel engine”.
Among the features brought into question by the KBA is software used to regulate the amount of Ad Blue solution injected into the SCR filter on the models in question.
Following the discussion, Scheuer said Daimler had pledged to remove the suspect software and co-operate with authorities.
Autocar understands that the software is programmed to lower the amount of Ad Blue being injected after a prescribed time. This lowers the efficiency of the SCR filter and leads to much higher nitrogen oxide emissions in real-world driving conditions than those claimed by Mercedes under test conditions.
A report in German newspaper Bild am Sonntag suggests the German Transport Ministry has identified up to five illegal Ad Blue and/or SCR switch off functions in various Mercedes-Benz diesel models.
Mercedes-Benz parent company Daimler has been hit with an €870 million (roughly $960 million) fine as part of a settlement with German prosecutors over the automaker’s own diesel cheating scandal. The fine comes in at the lower end of what was expected earlier this year.
The news comes just about four years to the day after Volkswagen’s Dieselgate scandal was exposed by the Environmental Protection Agency and California’s Air Resources Board. Volkswagen’s massive emissions cheating scandal, which affected 11 million cars worldwide, kicked off several investigations and lawsuits that helped uncover similar efforts at automakers like Daimler to skirt regulations on diesel vehicles.
Germany’s motor authority found that some 280,000 Mercedes-Benz C-class and E-class vehicles had been outfitted with software that made them look cleaner than they were during testing, similar to the grift that Volkswagen had pulled (though on a smaller scale). That led to a wider recall of some 700,000 affected vehicles around the world last year. Daimler also had to recall 60,000 GLK SUVs for the same issue earlier this year. The extent of Daimler’s cheating is still unknown, as an investigation by the US Department of Justice and a class action lawsuit in New Jersey are still ongoing.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/i...emissions-case
https://www.caradvice.com.au/795645/...on-compliance/
https://www.caradvice.com.au/782955/...t-fine-report/
C & E Class vehicles.
https://www.engadget.com/2019-09-24-...nx9_R8uNoQjELD
Incl GLC Coupes ?
https://www.engadget.com/2019-06-24-...er-recall.html
GLC included in Europe.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-d...-idUSKBN1W91KW
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/i...defeat-devices
In the UK, Mercedes faces increasing pressure to recall the affected cars: “We are aware of the issue of ‘defeat devices’ in some Mercedes models and we are in communication with Mercedes-Benz UK about the matter. Mercedes have not yet notified us of an official recall so we are pressing them on this point and have given them until 22 June to respond,” said Ian Bartlett, head of DVSA’s vehicle safety branch and market surveillance unit.
Daimler is the parent company of Mercedes.
Among the models said to be affected are the 1.6-litre Vito 111 CDI and the 2.0-litre C220d and GLC 220d.
The KBA has not indicated the age of the cars involved, although officials suggest they include latest-generation models with Euro 6 emissions certification.
News of the recall comes after the German transport minister, Andreas Scheuer, met with Mercedes chairman Dieter Zetsche in Berlin to discuss what has been described as “irregularities in independent test results of various Mercedes-Benz models featuring the German car maker’s turbocharged four-cylinder diesel engine”.
Among the features brought into question by the KBA is software used to regulate the amount of Ad Blue solution injected into the SCR filter on the models in question.
Following the discussion, Scheuer said Daimler had pledged to remove the suspect software and co-operate with authorities.
Autocar understands that the software is programmed to lower the amount of Ad Blue being injected after a prescribed time. This lowers the efficiency of the SCR filter and leads to much higher nitrogen oxide emissions in real-world driving conditions than those claimed by Mercedes under test conditions.
A report in German newspaper Bild am Sonntag suggests the German Transport Ministry has identified up to five illegal Ad Blue and/or SCR switch off functions in various Mercedes-Benz diesel models.
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Article from Car Sales back in Feb 2020.
Good explanation of ‘defeat’ device that may have been implemented.
In its annual report on Friday, Daimler announced that the KBA was about to declare that its cars were “equipped with impermissible defeat devices”.
“Defeat device” is a term used to cover any technology designed to cheat regulatory emissions limits.
It warned that its diesel models were under increasing scrutiny in Germany after the luxury brand was lambasted by the KBA for its thermal switches, which turned off emission controls when the ambient temperature was too low or too high.
The system relied on a legislation loophole that allowed for measures to protect the longevity of the emissions-cleaning technology, switching off below between six and eight degrees and above 26 degrees.
I wonder how Australia classified “hot climate” in build status impacts thermal switching ?
Good explanation of ‘defeat’ device that may have been implemented.
In its annual report on Friday, Daimler announced that the KBA was about to declare that its cars were “equipped with impermissible defeat devices”.
“Defeat device” is a term used to cover any technology designed to cheat regulatory emissions limits.
It warned that its diesel models were under increasing scrutiny in Germany after the luxury brand was lambasted by the KBA for its thermal switches, which turned off emission controls when the ambient temperature was too low or too high.
The system relied on a legislation loophole that allowed for measures to protect the longevity of the emissions-cleaning technology, switching off below between six and eight degrees and above 26 degrees.
I wonder how Australia classified “hot climate” in build status impacts thermal switching ?
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Interesting article from contributor on Australian Whirlpool GLC site.
” This is related to the Comand online features no longer working, not sure if this is the same for our GLC with Comand. Some guy pay $2,500 for the Comand online features, after 2yrs it's no longer working, and Mercedes customer cares treat their customer like idiot, by using their delay tactics of ignoring them long enough and give them every excuses they can, until they go away. Which is how I feel about Mercedes.
https://autoexpert.com.au/posts/the-...p-in-australia “
I must admit, MB AU have been less proactive in passing on info or assistance compared to what I have seen from MB UK and MB USA.
Such a shame local management lets down a valued Badge with a Corporate attitude which alienated customers, and in the long term lost customers who take their loyalty to other Manuf’s.
” This is related to the Comand online features no longer working, not sure if this is the same for our GLC with Comand. Some guy pay $2,500 for the Comand online features, after 2yrs it's no longer working, and Mercedes customer cares treat their customer like idiot, by using their delay tactics of ignoring them long enough and give them every excuses they can, until they go away. Which is how I feel about Mercedes.
https://autoexpert.com.au/posts/the-...p-in-australia “
I must admit, MB AU have been less proactive in passing on info or assistance compared to what I have seen from MB UK and MB USA.
Such a shame local management lets down a valued Badge with a Corporate attitude which alienated customers, and in the long term lost customers who take their loyalty to other Manuf’s.
#545
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Congratulations 🥳. I like the torque on diesel. I have the gasoline powered one and was considering the diesel option but here in TX, diesel is more expensive then gasoline by about $0.12. SONO figures not worth it. Regular gasoline 86 is very cheap in TX around $0.44 per liter. I use the 93, it’s about $0.60 per liter.
we love the turbo engine. Folks in TX drive super fast and will tail you until you move out of the way. Super aggressive. It’s nice to have a fast car to outpace the Camaros and Mustangs.
we’ve been to Australia and noticed people obey the speed limit and lots of speed radars and police presence. In TX many drivers think that the speed limit sign is only a “suggestion” not actual law. Anyhow, enjoy your ride
we love the turbo engine. Folks in TX drive super fast and will tail you until you move out of the way. Super aggressive. It’s nice to have a fast car to outpace the Camaros and Mustangs.
we’ve been to Australia and noticed people obey the speed limit and lots of speed radars and police presence. In TX many drivers think that the speed limit sign is only a “suggestion” not actual law. Anyhow, enjoy your ride
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This looks promising, maybe MB should look at this for their crabbing and tyre wear ‘characteristic’ !!!!
https://www.news.com.au/technology/i...news.com.au%20—%20Australia’s%20leading%20news%20site&utm_mediam=email&utm_campaign=editorial
New Teck looks great.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/i...news.com.au%20—%20Australia’s%20leading%20news%20site&utm_mediam=email&utm_campaign=editorial
New Teck looks great.
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Active wheel alignment.
This may be a good option for a variety of cars, incl the GLC, 250, 43 and 63 series.
Australian designed.
https://newatlas.com/automotive/worl...710e1-90936313
No details re price yet.
This may be a good option for a variety of cars, incl the GLC, 250, 43 and 63 series.
Australian designed.
https://newatlas.com/automotive/worl...710e1-90936313
No details re price yet.
#548
After just over 5 months and lots of research, I bit the bullet and had my GLC treated with external paint protection, wheel and tyre protection and interior treatment, both trim, floor and leather seats; also external glass treatment.
Car was left with specialist for 4 days to allow clean, paint correction, treatment and seal. Involved heating or baking under UV lamps I think.
The result is amazing, I am soooo happy with the professionalism, quality of work.
GLC looks better than when delivered, even after 13k . I do try and look after our cars, but this was better than expected.
Not sure how to post photos here, drop box ?
Price so much better than dealership, but it was not really about price, it was about knowing who was doing the work, how it was done and after sales service, advice and product sale of any supplemental product.
It also meant that I could re visit for advice and any fix.
Treated with Concours Nova EVO and Si.
Here is the link to my new paint treatment.
Mercedes Benz GLC - YouTube
Very happy with workmanship and overall service, top marks to David at "Auto Alchemy" at Airport West.
Cheers
Car was left with specialist for 4 days to allow clean, paint correction, treatment and seal. Involved heating or baking under UV lamps I think.
The result is amazing, I am soooo happy with the professionalism, quality of work.
GLC looks better than when delivered, even after 13k . I do try and look after our cars, but this was better than expected.
Not sure how to post photos here, drop box ?
Price so much better than dealership, but it was not really about price, it was about knowing who was doing the work, how it was done and after sales service, advice and product sale of any supplemental product.
It also meant that I could re visit for advice and any fix.
Treated with Concours Nova EVO and Si.
Here is the link to my new paint treatment.
Mercedes Benz GLC - YouTube
Very happy with workmanship and overall service, top marks to David at "Auto Alchemy" at Airport West.
Cheers
Last edited by dadalook; 09-09-2020 at 10:57 PM.
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Chrome door handle inserts easy to fit, 3M tape, stays put, keeps colour, but after 4.5 years I will replace with new ones, very happy protects door from ring and hand nail damage.