Tyre scrubbing on (full) lock
#376
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Thanks Phil- hope you don't get and problems with the crabbing. Mine definitely skips on full lock but doesn't seem as bad as those in videos- no crunching noise for example. I have 20' wheels on Pirelli Scorpion Verde tyres and the dealership have confirmed that these are summer tyres- I had to send them photos of the side walls, not the all season jobs. Pirelli's website seems to suggest there are two types of Scorpion Verde- but not that clear.
So I'm down to get the tyres replaced- albeit I'll wait to find out what tyres are being offered as a replacement - suspect replacement tyres will mask the problem rather than solve it. I wonder if MB have found a solution on new right hand drive cars? In your case I hope so.
So I'm down to get the tyres replaced- albeit I'll wait to find out what tyres are being offered as a replacement - suspect replacement tyres will mask the problem rather than solve it. I wonder if MB have found a solution on new right hand drive cars? In your case I hope so.
#377
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Hi Oliver - sounds like you're in the same position as me. I've got Continental Sports on 21's and it crabs on full lock, but once the tyres are warm it doesn't happen at all. Do you find the same?
#378
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I live in Scotland so there hasn't been much opportunity to get the tyres very warm- tend to notice the crabbing most when coming out of a car parking space, road and multi storey car park. Can live with it but we'll see what tyres are on offer from the dealership
#379
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Picking up a new GLC43 with 21" rims on Thursday here in California -it was built 1st decade of January.
Should have summer tires. Will report back.
Should have summer tires. Will report back.
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#382
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Just had MB Cust Service on the phone re the tyres. They said that they have tested the issue of crabbing/skipping on the 21" alloys too and believe that they can eliminate it by replacing the front tyres with different compound summer tyres. They only need to replace the front 2 tyres as the back axle is fine. They said that they are trying to source the tyres. I have given them the go ahead to order them for mine but also stated that if I find that there is a performance impact from the new tyres, I will not be accepting the new tyres. Lets see what happens. 6-8 weeks wait.
#383
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Just had MB Cust Service on the phone re the tyres. They said that they have tested the issue of crabbing/skipping on the 21" alloys too and believe that they can eliminate it by replacing the front tyres with different compound summer tyres. They only need to replace the front 2 tyres as the back axle is fine. They said that they are trying to source the tyres. I have given them the go ahead to order them for mine but also stated that if I find that there is a performance impact from the new tyres, I will not be accepting the new tyres. Lets see what happens. 6-8 weeks wait.
#384
Just had MB Cust Service on the phone re the tyres. They said that they have tested the issue of crabbing/skipping on the 21" alloys too and believe that they can eliminate it by replacing the front tyres with different compound summer tyres. They only need to replace the front 2 tyres as the back axle is fine. They said that they are trying to source the tyres. I have given them the go ahead to order them for mine but also stated that if I find that there is a performance impact from the new tyres, I will not be accepting the new tyres. Lets see what happens. 6-8 weeks wait.
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There is no other MO 21" tyre on the market. But I think Dunlop is about to get into that market. I wouldn't be happy on a 4matic to have Dunlop at the front and Continental at the back
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#386
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The problem is, we don't have any other option apart from this. Even if we want to reject the car, the ombudsman does state that we must allow the manufacturer the opportunity to fix the issue. Only if they fail in that, does it give it a slightly stronger hand.. One way or other, if I find that the car is not handling as I would like, I will be rejecting the tyres and car then.. Regardless, this will be my last MB.
#388
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Agreed, and I love driving the GLC, compared that to GLE 43 and the GLE was just too big for the size of the engine.. shame about the stupidity of MB for right royally screwing it up.
#390
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I may have reproduced on a US LHD GLC43 with 21 inch rims and summer tires. Only occurred once so far (2 days after purchase).
Does this sound like the issue - when turning fairly sharp right (not full lock) at 15mph in Sport Plus the whole vehicle judders - it's as if you're driving a manual (stick shift) and you're in too low a gear. The entire car shudders as if you're about to stall. Does this align with the issues the UK folks are having?
It's rare. Happened the once only in Sport Plus, car was cold.
Does this sound like the issue - when turning fairly sharp right (not full lock) at 15mph in Sport Plus the whole vehicle judders - it's as if you're driving a manual (stick shift) and you're in too low a gear. The entire car shudders as if you're about to stall. Does this align with the issues the UK folks are having?
It's rare. Happened the once only in Sport Plus, car was cold.
#391
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I may have reproduced on a US LHD GLC43 with 21 inch rims and summer tires. Only occurred once so far (2 days after purchase).
Does this sound like the issue - when turning fairly sharp right (not full lock) at 15mph in Sport Plus the whole vehicle judders - it's as if you're driving a manual (stick shift) and you're in too low a gear. The entire car shudders as if you're about to stall. Does this align with the issues the UK folks are having?
It's rare. Happened the once only in Sport Plus, car was cold.
Does this sound like the issue - when turning fairly sharp right (not full lock) at 15mph in Sport Plus the whole vehicle judders - it's as if you're driving a manual (stick shift) and you're in too low a gear. The entire car shudders as if you're about to stall. Does this align with the issues the UK folks are having?
It's rare. Happened the once only in Sport Plus, car was cold.
#392
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Rihalix,
This is not an issue with the car, rather the nature of wide summer profile tires, especially when cold, on full lock. Being performance tires, the rubber is more sticky, unlike all weather tires with deep sipes
That flex more.
My 2013 Boxster with summer tires exhibit the same characteristic, even more than my GLC 43 AMG.
Porsche said it is normal and does not harm the car in any way. For US GLCs, this is an overblown issue.
This is not an issue with the car, rather the nature of wide summer profile tires, especially when cold, on full lock. Being performance tires, the rubber is more sticky, unlike all weather tires with deep sipes
That flex more.
My 2013 Boxster with summer tires exhibit the same characteristic, even more than my GLC 43 AMG.
Porsche said it is normal and does not harm the car in any way. For US GLCs, this is an overblown issue.
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#393
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Sorry Widman MBUK have admitted it IS an issue in RHD cars, if you look back at videos posted by UK owners you will see it isn't the "characteristic" you are talking about.
#395
Perhaps all new right hand drive GLCs are being fitted with AW tyres as standard now- i.e. to mask the issue rather than resolve it.
Interested to find out what tyres are fitted on new deliveries- If summer tyres and no crabbing have Mercedes found a fix but not offering to existing owners as too expensive to retro fix......?
Interested to find out what tyres are fitted on new deliveries- If summer tyres and no crabbing have Mercedes found a fix but not offering to existing owners as too expensive to retro fix......?
Pirellis and / or Continentals I'm told
#396
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http://www.fpaceforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2592
Anybody know what's happened to Dejongj, not posted for a couple of weeks after posting several times a day on this thread, wonder if an agreement has been reached with MB!!!!!!!.
#397
Hi Matt, still no issue with my car and thoroughly enjoying it, have you seen the following post on the F pace forum:
http://www.fpaceforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2592
Anybody know what's happened to Dejongj, not posted for a couple of weeks after posting several times a day on this thread, wonder if an agreement has been reached with MB!!!!!!!.
http://www.fpaceforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2592
Anybody know what's happened to Dejongj, not posted for a couple of weeks after posting several times a day on this thread, wonder if an agreement has been reached with MB!!!!!!!.
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#399
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You are correct in that after a lot of hassle you can reject the car but financially would probably have to order another one. I sincerely hope your car is perfect as like GLC'S a lot of them are. Seems odd that this thread seems to have died a death and someone who was posting everyday on it and the same on other forums seems to have disappeared now, I wonder why.
#400
Sorry Matt, won't try and help in future, you didn't have same attitude about people posting about the GLC Crabbing. I have owned a JLR product and have been on their forums for a long time, the number of quality issaues with their "premium" cars is unbelievable and that's why I haven't bought another one. Yes the crabbing issue is really bad but very few other quality issues on the GLC.
You are correct in that after a lot of hassle you can reject the car but financially would probably have to order another one. I sincerely hope your car is perfect as like GLC'S a lot of them are. Seems odd that this thread seems to have died a death and someone who was posting everyday on it and the same on other forums seems to have disappeared now, I wonder why.
You are correct in that after a lot of hassle you can reject the car but financially would probably have to order another one. I sincerely hope your car is perfect as like GLC'S a lot of them are. Seems odd that this thread seems to have died a death and someone who was posting everyday on it and the same on other forums seems to have disappeared now, I wonder why.
Re JP, I suspect he probably just needs a break from the frustration of it all, and I don't blame him. Or perhaps he's now having legal dealings with MB and feels it's better not to post at this time. Either way, I'm sure we'll hear back when he has anything new to report.
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