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Old 02-26-2019, 07:29 PM
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63 is widebody-ish and looks epic. Not to worry about it against the 53. Infarct all 53s look to close to the series variants IMO for having such an interesting drivetrain
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:30 PM
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Is there an option for hands free trunk opening, not with remote, with your foot kick motion and trunk opens up?
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:31 PM
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I actually agree with both companies decisions to do so. IMO, many customers (like me) want some of the AMG appearance upgrades without the high performance engines, loud exhaust, and uncomfortable seats that goes with a true AMG 63. The new X5 M Package is a beautiful looking ride but without the very high cost of a true M car. That said, I think the seats in the GLE 53 may not be for me.
I agree with that as well. I just know it irks the "true" AMG 63 people.
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:52 PM
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I was prepared to despise the panamerica grille, but now that I see it and upon reflection, the approach seems a better integrated design than the standard crossbars.

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Old 02-26-2019, 08:04 PM
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[QUOTE=GregW / Oregon;7691721]That is much quicker than expected! Wonder how long until US orders open up? You going to cancel your current order, Ron.s?
Standard with what sounds like Active Curve, which I wish was available on the 450. I'm surprised it doesn't get a brake upgrade beyond the 450 AMG Line package - same whimpy floating calipers (maybe fixed an option?). Also Summer tires and different 22" wheels than on Euro models.

Good question Greg. I need to know more about how long for availability of the ď53Ē, how itís configured and really need to drive the 450. Odds are Iíll stick with my order and get the 53 in 2-3 years, if at all. Itís nice that the 53 is finally seeing daylight.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:05 PM
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How many here will cancel 450 order and go for 53 ?
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:35 PM
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How many here will cancel 450 order and go for 53 ?
Do we know at what price range will 53 start?
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:40 PM
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Here is the full press release for the 53. On sale "late 2020." Fixed brake calipers front, floating rear.

https://media.mbusa.com/releases/the...des-amg-gle-53

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Old 02-26-2019, 08:52 PM
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I gotta say, kudos for Mercedes for the excellent redesign of the GLE and using the best quality stuff and sticking with Michelin tires on most of their cars now. They are way better in every aspect compared to Continentals and Pirellis.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:57 PM
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Do we know at what price range will 53 start?
Pricing might be a long way off but my guess would be at least 12k and since it has E-ABC standard more likely 15k+ More than a similar GLE 450.
i‘m a little surprised that it’s only .3 seconds faster.
That doesn’t make sense...I meant a similar non-E-ABC!

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Old 02-26-2019, 09:07 PM
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I am surprise itís only .3~.4 quicker also. I am not sure if I am reading this right. E -ABC on the 450 there are no sway bars. From the 53 press release it seems like there is some sort of sway bar device and AMG soring. So maybe 53 is just using air Suspension with active curve control like GLS ?

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Wasn't expecting late 2020. That would make it a 2021 model. Interesting. Well over a year from now? Makes me think that is a typo.

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So maybe 53 is just using air Suspension with active curve control like GLS ?
That's the way I read it. The release doesn't mention the "look ahead" feature of the E-ABC suspension.
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Old 02-26-2019, 09:36 PM
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Can the 450 be ordered with the amg exterior but not the interior? It doesn't say on the order guide that it's required.
I may be redoing my order.
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Pricing might be a long way off but my guess would be at least 12k and since it has E-ABC standard more likely 15k+ More than a similar GLE 450.
iĎm a little surprised that itís only .3 seconds faster. That doesnít make sense...I meant a similar non-E-ABC!
E-ABC is not standard, as I read it. Sounds like Active Curve which I have on my '12 ML and is available on the GLE 400 at $2,910. I would have gladly got this instead of E-ABC for its lower complexity.

Current GLE 400 > GLE 43 difference is $12,450; I expect similar for this iteration.
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Can the 450 be ordered with the amg exterior but not the interior? It doesn't say on the order guide that it's required.
I may be redoing my order.
Yes, certainly. AMG Line Interior does limit options.
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That's the way I read it. The release doesn't mention the "look ahead" feature of the E-ABC suspension.
Correct. See my other post.
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Old 02-26-2019, 09:54 PM
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I am not sure if I am reading this right. E -ABC on the 450 there are no sway bars. From the 53 press release it seems like there is some sort of sway bar device and AMG soring. So maybe 53 is just using air Suspension with active curve control like GLS ?
Per my other post, this sounds like Active Curve, which I have on my '12 ML and is available on the '19 GLE 400.
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Here is the full press release for the 53. On sale "late 2020." Fixed brake calipers front, floating rear.
Something is wrong with this statement, "The large size high-performance braking system slows down the performance SUV even with heavy loads and short braking distances. 400 x 36 mm internally ventilated and perforated integral brake disks are used on the front axle as well as 2-piston fixed calipers, painted silver with black AMG lettering. On the rear, the internally ventilated brake disks measure 345 x 25 mm and have a 1-piston floating caliper."

1) The F brake calipers look exactly like the AMG Line 450's except for the AMG lettering and the rotors are the same size at 400mm; 2) Fixed calipers have twice as many pistons as similar floating calipers because there is a piston on each side of the rotor; I've never heard of a two-piston fixed caliper, as it does not make any sense. You have 4 at minimum, if not 6 or 8. 3) And, that's not what fixed calipers typically look like (see 2nd pic of optional Euro 4-piston fixed calipers). So, either the vehicle pictured does not have the real brakes, or the description is messed up, IMO.


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On another topic, I'm not crazy about these new AMG wheels. Anyone else agree? Kind of odd looking. MB must be saving the 22" wheels seen at the Paris Auto Show for the AMG GLE 63.
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On another topic, I'm not crazy about these new AMG wheels. Anyone else agree? Kind of odd looking. MB must be saving the 22" wheels seen at the Paris Auto Show for the AMG GLE 63.
I agree. Like the RWAs or the Euro 22s better. And you've probably figured out the reason.
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On another topic, I'm not crazy about these new AMG wheels. Anyone else agree? Kind of odd looking. MB must be saving the 22" wheels seen at the Paris Auto Show for the AMG GLE 63.
+1....ugly to me but might look better in the wild.
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Old 02-26-2019, 10:26 PM
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Is there an option for hands free trunk opening, not with remote, with your foot kick motion and trunk opens up?
Yes, HANDS-FREE ACCESS is standard on all GLE's meaning you can swipe your foot under the rear bumper and the hatch will open, provided you have the FOB in your pocket. I tested it on the GLE 450 I test drove two days ago.
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There are a lot of News Feeds on the net now for the 53. Here’s a semi worthless video.
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I, too, had a 12 ML with Active Curve, though it was a diesel. I would rather have an updated Active Curve suspension than some fancy schmancy E-ABC.
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