2020 V167 GLE

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Jan 10, 2019 | 12:39 PM
  #1926  
Back in 2016, I cross-shopped them, as well as a few other SUVs. In the end it was between a Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland EcoDiesel and the M-B GLE 350d.
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Jan 10, 2019 | 12:39 PM
  #1927  
Quote: The Ford explorer is not even in the same universe as the new GLE...
...until the cop driving one pulls you over - then it's in your universe!


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Jan 10, 2019 | 12:44 PM
  #1928  
Quote: ...until the cop driving one pulls you over - then it's in your universe!
I don't get pulled over because I don't break the law...
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Jan 10, 2019 | 04:15 PM
  #1929  
Quote: Obviously not a direct competitor to the GLE, but still new & relevant.
I always thought Ford ripped off the C-pillar look of the ML/GLE. Anyone agree?
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Jan 10, 2019 | 06:06 PM
  #1930  
Ripoff?
Quote:
I always thought Ford ripped off the C-pillar look of the ML/GLE. Anyone agree?
I haven't gone back and looked at all iterations, but with the new models the C-pillars are very similar. There are differences in the lite behind the pillar and the rear door glass on the Explorer that has what in BMW terms is a Hoffmeister kink at the lower corner. The cut line of the rear door hugs the glass on the Mercedes, which I think is more elegant than on the Explorer where it splits the pillar.




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Jan 10, 2019 | 09:48 PM
  #1931  
Frankenstein and Walnut Trim

Frankenstein does a good job narrating along with the German engineer in this Japanese video, however my real question is: is this the Walnut trim? If so I may have to make a change!
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Jan 10, 2019 | 10:17 PM
  #1932  
Walnut trim
Quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPa80vZpkf0

Frankenstein does a good job narrating along with the German engineer in this Japanese video, however my real question is: is this the Walnut trim? If so I may have to make a change!
That appears to be Walnut, though the grain does not look nearly as nice as on the Configurator. I know there are a lot of vids out there with that trim you may want to look at. As with any natural material there will be variations in color and pattern.

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Jan 11, 2019 | 09:35 AM
  #1933  
walnut trim
Well, since the 2019 C class coupe and cabriolet both have the natural grain walnut trim on the build site, it shouldn't be that hard to find a dealership nearby
to go see the trim in person. Its the trim that shows up as default until you change it there.
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Jan 11, 2019 | 07:05 PM
  #1934  
Crickets.....................
Another week with nothing new. Only 3 weeks until some of our cars get built!
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Jan 11, 2019 | 08:38 PM
  #1935  
No DOG news, no configurator and Mercedes isn’t at the N.A. Auto show so no Coupe or 53 announcement coming from there.
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Jan 11, 2019 | 09:16 PM
  #1936  
There is a revised DOG out there - I saw it at my dealer yesterday - no real change except the interior I wanted is listed as available. I want 958A - Black/Magmagrey Nappa leather - and before the DOG said "delayed ordering" - now that has been removed.
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Jan 11, 2019 | 09:28 PM
  #1937  
The attached DOG may be the one you are referring to. Also has the U38 option cost. A few other little changes too, like the rear door power shades just got $200 more expensive. Just happened to pop into my dealer today to touch base and saw this one pop up on his screen and asked him to send it to me.

I still haven't placed an order yet as I am waiting for some finalization and US configurator to come on line. Personally, I want the high end Burmester audio but it is excluded with the AMG exterior. Ticked off about that as it really makes no sense to me for a newly redesigned vehicle to have an interior audio package excluded by an exterior trim package. If an amp gets in the way, move it. You're redesigning the thing. I spoke to a MB factory rep about it and it was confirmed that "components" of each get in the way of the other, to state it simply. I may have to forgo the AMG exterior for the audio, and I'm really not liking that. Oh well, to each his own priorities.


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Jan 11, 2019 | 10:01 PM
  #1938  
Quote: The attached DOG may be the one you are referring to. Also has the U38 option cost. A few other little changes too, like the rear door power shades just got $200 more expensive. Just happened to pop into my dealer today to touch base and saw this one pop up on his screen and asked him to send it to me.

I still haven't placed an order yet as I am waiting for some finalization and US configurator to come on line. Personally, I want the high end Burmester audio but it is excluded with the AMG exterior. Ticked off about that as it really makes no sense to me for a newly redesigned vehicle to have an interior audio package excluded by an exterior trim package. If an amp gets in the way, move it. You're redesigning the thing. I spoke to a MB factory rep about it and it was confirmed that "components" of each get in the way of the other, to state it simply. I may have to forgo the AMG exterior for the audio, and I'm really not liking that. Oh well, to each his own priorities.
Burmeister looks to be available. Maybe I’m reading it wrong but it looks to me like they are saying it’s more expensive without the Burmeister. $3250 vs $2900. I think there’s a mistake in the MB Tex dash vs Napa leather-both are listed at $700. They are making more interim changes....time for the DOG to lose preliminary status.
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Jan 11, 2019 | 10:14 PM
  #1939  
I think you're reading it wrong. AMG Line exterior is "Not with Burmester High End 3D Surround System (811)". The price diff is between the GLE 350 and 450 (350 = $2900; 450 = $3,250).
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Jan 11, 2019 | 10:23 PM
  #1940  
You are probably right because that print is normally a restriction but it doesn’t say not available. Opposite the $2900 is All Models. Pretty sloppy work still MB.
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Jan 11, 2019 | 10:55 PM
  #1941  
Quote: There is a revised DOG out there - I saw it at my dealer yesterday - no real change except the interior I wanted is listed as available. I want 958A - Black/Magmagrey Nappa leather - and before the DOG said "delayed ordering" - now that has been removed.
That's too bad I was hoping for some other goodies...
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Jan 12, 2019 | 06:55 AM
  #1942  
Some changes in the new DOG that I spotted:

Night Package description:
Was: High-gloss black elements: front splitter, grille trim, rear diffuser, tailpipes, side mirrors, window trim, and roof rails
Now: Black elements: front splitter, grille trim, rear diffuser, side mirrors, window trim, and roof rail

E-ACTIVE BODY CONTROL:
Was: $8,100
Now: $8,200 (still at $8,100 on page 12)

AIRMATIC Suspension:
Was: $1,610
Now: $1,710

ENERGIZING Package Plus:
Was: tbd
Now: $2,100

Electric Rear Side-Window Sunshades:
Was: $380
Now: $580

Dashboard and Door Beltlines in Nappa Leather
New: $700

Note: I think there's a mistake. The (U09) MB-Tex Dashboard and Door Beltlines was originally priced at $400 but was changed to $700. However, (U38) Dashboard and Door Beltlines in Nappa Leather is also priced at $700. I'm thinking U09 is actually $400 since the Nappa Leather U38 option is $700.
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Jan 12, 2019 | 07:07 AM
  #1943  
My updated build, now exceeds $95k


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Jan 12, 2019 | 11:37 AM
  #1944  
DOG revisions
Quote: Some changes in the new DOG that I spotted:

Dashboard and Door Beltlines in Nappa Leather
New: $700

Note: I think there's a mistake. The (U09) MB-Tex Dashboard and Door Beltlines was originally priced at $400 but was changed to $700. However, (U38) Dashboard and Door Beltlines in Nappa Leather is also priced at $700. I'm thinking U09 is actually $400 since the Nappa Leather U38 option is $700.
Thanks for the comparison; unlike last revision where some items went down, now all changes are in the up direction. I think you are correct on U09, except it was previously $450, not $400. They should hire us to proofread these things!

Also, prices were added for designo® trims H34 & H35 at $850. There is nothing more precious about the Black Ash than the Brown Walnut trim; different wood and stain, and “designo” makes it over 5x the cost!
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Jan 12, 2019 | 11:48 AM
  #1945  
Updated GLE 450 spread sheet
I have made updates to the attached based on the changes in the 12/13 DOG.




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Jan 12, 2019 | 05:03 PM
  #1946  
Quote: My updated build, now exceeds $95k


really getting up there...now in Audi Q8 Year 1 territory with near every option including 22's, lux pckg/ verona leather, alcantara headliner, HUD, leather dash etc and they're still built in Germany to boot. At this rate a very well equipped 53 is going to easily break $100k
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Jan 13, 2019 | 02:34 PM
  #1947  
Audi ABC?
Chasing Mercedes? From Road & Track (Feb '19) regarding the Audi A8:

"The A8's standard air suspension is pretty supple, even for this comfort-oriented class, but an optional active suspension will be coming soon. It's able to scan the road ahead and lift or push each wheel according to the terrain."

No word on whether the A8 will be able to dance. I know at least the Q8 has a 48v electrical system, though I think it's only used for starting. Likely this active suspension technology will spread across the upper end of the industry.
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Jan 14, 2019 | 09:47 AM
  #1948  
A GLE review in Spanish:

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Jan 14, 2019 | 10:12 AM
  #1949  
Spanish review
Quote: A GLE review in Spanish:
I didn't understand much of it, but some pretty good photography.



View of the dash well for the HUD projection:


Shift paddles are plastic and attached to wheel like current car. They feel pretty solid in my car despite being plastic.

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Jan 14, 2019 | 10:49 AM
  #1950  
I agree with you about the photography. I've never bought a new red vehicle but the GLE looks quite good in red, especially with those multi-spoke AMG wheels.

The Philadelphia Auto Show is coming up Feb. 2 – 10. I'm hoping MB will have a 2020 GLE 450 on display like they did for the LA Auto Show.
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