Worth rotating my tires?
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Worth rotating my tires?
Running out of things to do under shelter in place, so with a nice long term forecast I'm going to swap my winter wheels out for my original wheels (21" multi spoke) with a/s tires. The all seasons are non directional, so technically I can swap left to right. Any thoughts/recommendations?
Also, I never found the jack point in the front center of the vehicle last time I did this, so I just lifted at the jack points on the side and used jack stands. Looking under the engine area it looked like the plastic tray extended everywhere...
Also, I never found the jack point in the front center of the vehicle last time I did this, so I just lifted at the jack points on the side and used jack stands. Looking under the engine area it looked like the plastic tray extended everywhere...
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Tire rotation/swap
Running out of things to do under shelter in place, so with a nice long term forecast I'm going to swap my winter wheels out for my original wheels (21" multi spoke) with a/s tires. The all seasons are non directional, so technically I can swap left to right. Any thoughts/recommendations?
Also, I never found the jack point in the front center of the vehicle last time I did this, so I just lifted at the jack points on the side and used jack stands. Looking under the engine area it looked like the plastic tray extended everywhere...
Also, I never found the jack point in the front center of the vehicle last time I did this, so I just lifted at the jack points on the side and used jack stands. Looking under the engine area it looked like the plastic tray extended everywhere...
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Running out of things to do under shelter in place, so with a nice long term forecast I'm going to swap my winter wheels out for my original wheels (21" multi spoke) with a/s tires. The all seasons are non directional, so technically I can swap left to right. Any thoughts/recommendations?
Also, I never found the jack point in the front center of the vehicle last time I did this, so I just lifted at the jack points on the side and used jack stands. Looking under the engine area it looked like the plastic tray extended everywhere...
Also, I never found the jack point in the front center of the vehicle last time I did this, so I just lifted at the jack points on the side and used jack stands. Looking under the engine area it looked like the plastic tray extended everywhere...
There is a train of thought that believes tire rotation is a waste of money. Their position, the money spent on rotation over the life to the tire is better spent on replacement.
My 16 GLC came new with Pirelli tires that were worn out at 33,000 miles. Was very disappointed until becoming aware there were many drivers reporting wear out at 12,000 or less.
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My habit is to rotate my tires, front to back, because doing so generally results in greater mileage. And, assuming no abnormal wear, the end result is all four tires reach the tread wear limit together. When my vehicles require tires, I like to replace them, all four at the same
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I need to pay more attention when reading posts.
Haven't done side to side, but can't hurt.
Have been reading the manual on my wife's new Volvo XC40. Surprised to read tire rotation is front to back only. Haven't looked but am guessing tires are directional. They are Perelli Scorpion.
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Oh yea, tommy, know the drill. Have a Corvette. Buying tires for that car, especially rear ones, two at a time is enough...over a grand.
I need to pay more attention when reading posts.
Haven't done side to side, but can't hurt.
Have been reading the manual on my wife's new Volvo XC40. Surprised to read tire rotation is front to back only. Haven't looked but am guessing tires are directional. They are Perelli Scorpion.
I need to pay more attention when reading posts.
Haven't done side to side, but can't hurt.
Have been reading the manual on my wife's new Volvo XC40. Surprised to read tire rotation is front to back only. Haven't looked but am guessing tires are directional. They are Perelli Scorpion.
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Tire rotation
Running out of things to do under shelter in place, so with a nice long term forecast I'm going to swap my winter wheels out for my original wheels (21" multi spoke) with a/s tires. The all seasons are non directional, so technically I can swap left to right. Any thoughts/recommendations?
Also, I never found the jack point in the front center of the vehicle last time I did this, so I just lifted at the jack points on the side and used jack stands. Looking under the engine area it looked like the plastic tray extended everywhere...
Also, I never found the jack point in the front center of the vehicle last time I did this, so I just lifted at the jack points on the side and used jack stands. Looking under the engine area it looked like the plastic tray extended everywhere...
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I wonder if "Ensure that the direction of rotation is maintained." refers to the pattern of rotating the tire locations, not the rolling direction of the tire?
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I think that's a stretch; "direction" would not be used if they are talking about "pattern." That being said, I have always read it is okay to change the direction or rotation of modern steel-belted radials. This was not the case with bias ply or some early radials.
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I think that's a stretch; "direction" would not be used if they are talking about "pattern." That being said, I have always read it is okay to change the direction or rotation of modern steel-belted radials. This was not the case with bias ply or some early radials.
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I think that's a stretch; "direction" would not be used if they are talking about "pattern."
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Note the first statement is rotate in accordance with the interval recommendation in the tire manufacturer's warranty book. I read that as if the tire manufacturer recommends cross rotation, do it. If they don’t recommend cross rotation (unidirectional, etc.) then don’t. The front to back statement to me reads like legalese...when in doubt, default to the a most safe option.
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I have Bridgestone 275/50R20 Alenza Sport A/S RFT on my GLE 350 4Matic. Since I have the same tire size and offset on all 4 wheels, I plan to rotate them according to the Bridgestone tire warranty manual which recommends the following (pic on the left):
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Guys, I started this thread and I'm shocked how many responses we've had. For the record, I did swap the tires left to right. I don't think it matters, as I only had 3,500 miles on the vehicle when I made the swap. But I'll report back if I regret it.
Anyone able to supply a photo of where the front of the vehicle can be lifted using a floor jack? I expected to find a metal plate, but I couldn't identify the location (everything seems to be covered by the plastic cover). so I did the front wheels one side at a time, using the side jack points and a jack stand.
Anyone able to supply a photo of where the front of the vehicle can be lifted using a floor jack? I expected to find a metal plate, but I couldn't identify the location (everything seems to be covered by the plastic cover). so I did the front wheels one side at a time, using the side jack points and a jack stand.
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The center pattern is for FWD, where as the left pattern is for RWR/4WD. I too was surprised by a different rotation pattern for FWD vice RWD/4WD, the wear difference between the two rotation patterns has to be miniscule.
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Well Crap, twin 5-spoke wheels = 10 spoke wheels!!!
I thought the 8.5J was the offset, I see it's the ET (which is not on the tire placard in the door jam). Thanks for the check 6 -- fortunately I have the dealer do the rotation anyway...hopefully they would know the difference! So, they're going to have to remove the tires from the rim and rebalance...GREAT!
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Well Crap, twin 5-spoke wheels = 10 spoke wheels!!!
I thought the 8.5J was the offset, I see it's the ET (which is not on the tire placard in the door jam). Thanks for the check 6 -- fortunately I have the dealer do the rotation anyway...hopefully they would know the difference! So, they're going to have to remove the tires from the rim and rebalance...GREAT!
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I've got a coworker whose winter set of 20's on his AMG are all the same offset and the rear wheels look goofy all set in like they are.
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If they wanted to offer the wider tire option on the AMG models, they had to make the rear offset less on the 20" models so the tires came out to the same spot. I've got a coworker whose winter set of 20's on his AMG are all the same offset and the rear wheels look goofy all set in like they are.
