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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 06:09 PM
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Looking for any GLE 580 owners who can share their experience with the car (i.e. the good, the bad, and the ugly). Just looking for a bit of community feedback on this specific model prior to my closing the deal this week. Thanks!
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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 07:08 PM
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The good: Great blend of speed, V8 roar when you floor it & 'wafting' comfort with the Airmatic. More luxury than you could ever ask for. Eye catching looks.
The bad: 9-11mpg unless you're on cruise control on the highway, then 18mpg or so. You get spoiled by all the aforementioned good, so it's a little sad knowing the GLE 580 is almost a fossil.
The ugly: 48V battery issues & in my case, creaks, rattles and groans all over once I hit 5K miles. Dealer couldn't replicate and when pushed said "all Mercedes do this." Extended warranty past 50K is (in my case for 7yr/100K via MBUSA) almost 8 grand.
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Originally Posted by Jzegel
The good: Great blend of speed, V8 roar when you floor it & 'wafting' comfort with the Airmatic. More luxury than you could ever ask for. Eye catching looks.
The bad: 9-11mpg unless you're on cruise control on the highway, then 18mpg or so. You get spoiled by all the aforementioned good, so it's a little sad knowing the GLE 580 is almost a fossil.
The ugly: 48V battery issues & in my case, creaks, rattles and groans all over once I hit 5K miles. Dealer couldn't replicate and when pushed said "all Mercedes do this." Extended warranty past 50K is (in my case for 7yr/100K via MBUSA) almost 8 grand.
Good, balanced review.
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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jzegel
The good: Great blend of speed, V8 roar when you floor it & 'wafting' comfort with the Airmatic. More luxury than you could ever ask for. Eye catching looks.
The bad: 9-11mpg unless you're on cruise control on the highway, then 18mpg or so. You get spoiled by all the aforementioned good, so it's a little sad knowing the GLE 580 is almost a fossil.
The ugly: 48V battery issues & in my case, creaks, rattles and groans all over once I hit 5K miles. Dealer couldn't replicate and when pushed said "all Mercedes do this." Extended warranty past 50K is (in my case for 7yr/100K via MBUSA) almost 8 grand.
That about sums it up folks.
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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 09:58 PM
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I agree with the first reply. We’ve had our 580 for 3 years now and it is a great vehicle - it’s basically a budget AMG GLE63 - just less dramatics and dynamic handling. I say that knowing that I’m replacing our GLE580 with a GLE63S in a week or so only because I love how the AMG sounds and drives - but it is considerably more expensive.

The other gripe I had with ours is there is no S+ mode - just S which was a little odd.

we are about to sell ours when the AMG comes in and snapped a few pics today after cleaning her up.





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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jzegel
The good: Great blend of speed, V8 roar when you floor it & 'wafting' comfort with the Airmatic. More luxury than you could ever ask for. Eye catching looks.
The bad: 9-11mpg unless you're on cruise control on the highway, then 18mpg or so. You get spoiled by all the aforementioned good, so it's a little sad knowing the GLE 580 is almost a fossil.
The ugly: 48V battery issues & in my case, creaks, rattles and groans all over once I hit 5K miles. Dealer couldn't replicate and when pushed said "all Mercedes do this." Extended warranty past 50K is (in my case for 7yr/100K via MBUSA) almost 8 grand.
Wow 9-11mpg? I thought my GX was bad. I can't even imagine there's such a new car this time that has this low mpg. What is it like without 48? I've read "580 is a much more refined vehicle" but I guess maybe the poster doesn't have a 580 or GLE.
Originally Posted by DubDub12
I agree with the first reply. We’ve had our 580 for 3 years now and it is a great vehicle - it’s basically a budget AMG GLE63 - just less dramatics and dynamic handling. I say that knowing that I’m replacing our GLE580 with a GLE63S in a week or so only because I love how the AMG sounds and drives - but it is considerably more expensive.

The other gripe I had with ours is there is no S+ mode - just S which was a little odd.

we are about to sell ours when the AMG comes in and snapped a few pics today after cleaning her up.
Thanks for posting. I thought 580 looks the same as 350/450 and was confused by the eye catching look comment. That is a surprise that it doesn't have S+. How is S mode? Any significant improvement? I feel nothing in the 350 (of course )and wonder why they even make it available. On the other hand, on my 40i, S/S+ is day/night compared to Comfort/Eco.
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mb2be
Wow 9-11mpg? I thought my GX was bad. I can't even imagine there's such a new car this time that has this low mpg. What is it like without 48? I've read "580 is a much more refined vehicle" but I guess maybe the poster doesn't have a 580 or GLE.

Thanks for posting. I thought 580 looks the same as 350/450 and was confused by the eye catching look comment. That is a surprise that it doesn't have S+. How is S mode? Any significant improvement? I feel nothing in the 350 (of course )and wonder why they even make it available. On the other hand, on my 40i, S/S+ is day/night compared to Comfort/Eco.
Our GLE gets ~16MPG - so I'n not sure where the 9-11mpg is coming from. :shrug: I do have a pretty heavy foot as it is fun to hit it and go.

On the S mode - it is a lot more responsive than Comfort/Eco for sure. The engine runs at higher RPMs and the throttle response is a lot better. In S mode it can get up an go - just doesn't have the AMG engine noise and pops and bangs. I drive it in S a lot.
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DubDub12
Our GLE gets ~16MPG - so I'n not sure where the 9-11mpg is coming from. :shrug: I do have a pretty heavy foot as it is fun to hit it and go.

On the S mode - it is a lot more responsive than Comfort/Eco for sure. The engine runs at higher RPMs and the throttle response is a lot better. In S mode it can get up an go - just doesn't have the AMG engine noise and pops and bangs. I drive it in S a lot.
It's the average I've seen reported on the MB app, mostly in-town trips where I exclusively drove like a bat out of hell. Haven't calculated using miles & gallons refilled at the pump so maybe the app isn't accurate. Either way, it's a great vehicle even with the faults.

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Good, balanced review.
Thanks Chassis, wanted to be as fair as possible and hopefully help rbenedetti. I've since sold it because creaks and rattles drive me up a wall but not every unit will be like that. Maybe I had the Friday afternoon special
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mb2be
Wow 9-11mpg? I thought my GX was bad. I can't even imagine there's such a new car this time that has this low mpg. What is it like without 48? I've read "580 is a much more refined vehicle" but I guess maybe the poster doesn't have a 580 or GLE.

Thanks for posting. I thought 580 looks the same as 350/450 and was confused by the eye catching look comment. That is a surprise that it doesn't have S+. How is S mode? Any significant improvement? I feel nothing in the 350 (of course )and wonder why they even make it available. On the other hand, on my 40i, S/S+ is day/night compared to Comfort/Eco.
The 580 comes standard with many features as well as air suspension and exterior AMG package,
My 2020 580 has a $106 sticker, thanks to the members who posted excel sheets with codes i was able to put in a custom order in 2019 and got delivered in august 2020 10 months later,
The OP did a great review, i still love the car its overall an awesome SUV wouldnt drive anything else,
The S+ comes together with the E-ABC, there's a huge difference between S and S+ the suspension lowers -2 the car shifts like in race track mode, i would suggest they should improve the exhaust noise in S+
I wish they bring back the E-ABC for 2024 or ill have to opt for the GLS
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Old Dec 29, 2022 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jzegel
The good: Great blend of speed, V8 roar when you floor it & 'wafting' comfort with the Airmatic. More luxury than you could ever ask for. Eye catching looks.
The bad: 9-11mpg unless you're on cruise control on the highway, then 18mpg or so. You get spoiled by all the aforementioned good, so it's a little sad knowing the GLE 580 is almost a fossil.
The ugly: 48V battery issues & in my case, creaks, rattles and groans all over once I hit 5K miles. Dealer couldn't replicate and when pushed said "all Mercedes do this." Extended warranty past 50K is (in my case for 7yr/100K via MBUSA) almost 8 grand.
Pretty straight forward.
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Old Dec 29, 2022 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jzegel
The ugly: 48V battery issues & in my case, creaks, rattles and groans all over once I hit 5K miles. Dealer couldn't replicate and when pushed said "all Mercedes do this.".
Misery loves company; multiple creaks and groans is a big issue for me. Poor build quality is emblematic of this model. Mercedes saying it’s normal is laughably sad and unacceptable.
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Old Dec 29, 2022 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jzegel
The ugly: 48V battery issues & in my case, creaks, rattles and groans all over once I hit 5K miles. Dealer couldn't replicate and when pushed said "all Mercedes do this.".
Nothing will destroy enthusiasm for a car like creaks and rattles.

After about 5,000 miles, my GLE began to creak around corners, when turning into a driveway, whenever the body was in torsion. Turns out, it was caused by the door seals flexing against the door frame. Very easy test and verify, just gentle push the top of the door frame with your hand (with door closed) -- does it creak? If yes, there is your culprit. If you wash your car regularly and towel dry the door seals like a pro, that will remove the lubricant from the seals over time.

Fortunately, it is easy to fix. A $10 tube of Sil-Glyde will eliminate it, you can get it at a local auto store like AutoZone. Take 10 minutes to apply a thin coat of the lubricant to all the door seals (doesn't need to be gooped on), and the creaking will be eliminated for ~2 years. When it starts to creak again, just reapply.

That eliminated 90% of the annoying noises in my GLE...the other 10% was replacing the rear shocks which were defective and rattled. At 32,500 miles, my GLE is now as tight as a drum and doesn't rattle.

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So are we supposed to say good job? Lol I can’t imagine having to pay this much and have to fix it myself for a quality issue under 5k.
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Old Dec 29, 2022 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mb2be
So are we supposed to say good job? Lol I can’t imagine having to pay this much and have to fix it myself for a quality issue under 5k.
Not sure if that was intended for me, but you can if you want, or not -- just sharing my experience in case it is helpful.

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Originally Posted by mb2be
So are we supposed to say good job? Lol I can’t imagine having to pay this much and have to fix it myself for a quality issue under 5k.
Ever since the '60s and earlier, manufacturers have recommended different ways to care for and protect seals. I don't think they do anymore but all seals still need protection from ozone etc. I wonder if Big Cities are worse for squeaks.

I pay attention to weather stripping and such when I wash the car.
I still have glycerin that I've had for decades, but I recently changed to Syl-Glide. A tube will last for generations.

Haven't had any squeaks in the V167, BTW.
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Not sure if that was intended for me, but you can if you want, or not -- just sharing my experience in case it is helpful.
I swear you had shared that tip in a different post in the past, actually the first step I took. Fixed some, but the center console and front air strut creaks put me over the edge. Hopefully those are just a rarity
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I swear you had shared that tip in a different post in the past, actually the first step I took. Fixed some, but the center console and front air strut creaks put me over the edge. Hopefully those are just a rarity
I did in fact...but haven't a clue what thread it is in... long since forgotten.

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Originally Posted by mikapen
Ever since the '60s and earlier, manufacturers have recommended different ways to care for and protect seals. I don't think they do anymore but all seals still need protection from ozone etc. I wonder if Big Cities are worse for squeaks.

I pay attention to weather stripping and such when I wash the car.
I still have glycerin that I've had for decades, but I recently changed to Syl-Glide. A tube will last for generations.

Haven't had any squeaks in the V167, BTW.
Agree....our 2022 GLE450 SUV is very tight and extremely quiet. But years ago, we had a BMW that had all four door seals changed 4 times. BMW decided to change the composition of their seal material and caused serious problems. Finally they went back to the original specs and problem solved. But it was truly very annoying.
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Great experience on my wife's '21 580 with 24k miles. I don't see spending money on fuel or tires as a downside for a vehicle with this level of luxury and performance. It's getting 16-18 mpg in spirited city driving (better on road trips). No squeaks or rattles to speak of, no issues with the 48V system. In fact, the 48V system is fantastic when accelerating from a stop or low speeds, and is a great complement to the wonderful V8 engine (even though it's detuned compared to the AMG version). We ordered it with acoustic comfort package -- would always recommend this option if you're custom ordering. It's been in for a few odd and minor things, most recently the controller for the passenger seat massage had to be replaced under warranty (two days, so quick turn-around). We also ordered the 22" wheel package, and when the factory summer tires wore out, we replaced with Pirelli Scorpion all-seasons (the ones designed for Aston-Martin since MB designs are all summer in that size).

In summary: excellent car. We purchased an extended MB warranty shortly after buying the car. Hope to keep it for quite a while.

(edit: model year is 2021, not 2020 -- sorry)

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