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Old May 12, 2023 | 05:52 AM
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Only one of them has been an ordered example, the others were spec'd by Mercedes, as far as I'm aware.
They are pretty aware of at this point what is and isn't available. There are certainly still constrained options but not how it was the past two years where it was a toss up what was going to arrive.
You guys opened up 63 coupe/suv allocations yet? Taking forever it seems!
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Old May 12, 2023 | 07:25 AM
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You guys opened up 63 coupe/suv allocations yet? Taking forever it seems!
not yet. Was told that the earliest it would get here is November, but I doubt it. I put money down so when a spot opens they put me in.
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Old May 13, 2023 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by David Vargas
not yet. Was told that the earliest it would get here is November, but I doubt it. I put money down so when a spot opens they put me in.
November??? That is quite a wait actually.
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Old May 13, 2023 | 08:56 AM
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November??? That is quite a wait actually.
unfortunately, the V8 is on its way out so the dealership only has 1 or 2 allocations and some are not getting any. If you really want a 2024 GLE 63S, you have to tell your dealership you want to be notified when they become available
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Old May 13, 2023 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by David Vargas
unfortunately, the V8 is on its way out so the dealership only has 1 or 2 allocations and some are not getting any. If you really want a 2024 GLE 63S, you have to tell your dealership you want to be notified when they become available
not sure I mean the facelift does include the V8 so assuming they will be producing enough V8, given the 2024 GLE 63 S is no limited edition, safe to say the V8 is here to stay for a little longer perhaps?
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Old May 13, 2023 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
not sure I mean the facelift does include the V8 so assuming they will be producing enough V8, given the 2024 GLE 63 S is no limited edition, safe to say the V8 is here to stay for a little longer perhaps?
I was told by 2025 that Mercedes will get rid of the V8’s so let’s see how true that is.
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Old May 13, 2023 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by David Vargas
I was told by 2025 that Mercedes will get rid of the V8’s so let’s see how true that is.
Yikes hopefully not. Too early when the gas ban is 2035? or 2030 depending on some countries.
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Old May 13, 2023 | 10:49 AM
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Yikes hopefully not. Too early when the gas ban is 2035? or 2030 depending on some countries.
yes but in the future, most of the Mercedes gas cars will be with V4’s or V6’s the most.
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Old May 13, 2023 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by David Vargas
yes but in the future, most of the Mercedes gas cars will be with V4’s or V6’s the most.
Hopefully that future is a bit far from now (as in hopefully V8 stays for longer)
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Old May 13, 2023 | 11:02 AM
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Yikes hopefully not. Too early when the gas ban is 2035? or 2030 depending on some countries.
the gas ban is not why mercedes is phasing out v8’s so quickly. It’s due to emissions and them not being able to have the v8 pass emissions standards without hampering its performance greatly. Their logic is that if you’re killing its power, why would you not just implement a better tuned 4 or 6 cycle instead.

and as of now there’s only 7 states (and Europe) which have implemented the gas ban by 2035. And that’s only for new cars anyways. Gas stations and ICE vehicles won’t be removed from roads for decades to come.

Although I will say, this all played a part in being able to talk my wife into getting the 63 over 53 this year. As by the time we get another model, I’m sure the v8 will be gone. I’d definitely say to pony up the $ and go v8 in 2024 or 2025 if you want one, as it may be the final years on the GLE. I’m pondering just getting a 10 year warranty on my new 63 and driving it into the 2030s haha.

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Old May 14, 2023 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dmash
the gas ban is not why mercedes is phasing out v8’s so quickly. It’s due to emissions and them not being able to have the v8 pass emissions standards without hampering its performance greatly. Their logic is that if you’re killing its power, why would you not just implement a better tuned 4 or 6 cycle instead.

and as of now there’s only 7 states (and Europe) which have implemented the gas ban by 2035. And that’s only for new cars anyways. Gas stations and ICE vehicles won’t be removed from roads for decades to come.

Although I will say, this all played a part in being able to talk my wife into getting the 63 over 53 this year. As by the time we get another model, I’m sure the v8 will be gone. I’d definitely say to pony up the $ and go v8 in 2024 or 2025 if you want one, as it may be the final years on the GLE. I’m pondering just getting a 10 year warranty on my new 63 and driving it into the 2030s haha.
Yes I am aware of the problem MB faces with the fleet average emissions in Europe, I was hoping North America still gets V8 for longer as they don't have much of a big issue with regulations here (ie. they don't even need OPF), not saying there are no regulations in North America (ie. multibeam regulation prior to the new change) but not as big of an issue I mean.
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Old May 14, 2023 | 06:53 PM
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Found this video on the 2023 and 2024 GLE comparison:
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Old May 14, 2023 | 07:20 PM
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Found this video on the 2023 and 2024 GLE comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpBqCf9ppIY

gotta be honest, the headlights are growing on me. I was indifferent to begin, but now I think I like them more haha.
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Old May 14, 2023 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dmash
gotta be honest, the headlights are growing on me. I was indifferent to begin, but now I think I like them more haha.
The GLE pre-facelift had more unique to the GLE headlights not going to lie but the facelift isn't bad, just that the base headlights with the two dots looks like the EQS SUV, EQE SUV, X254 GLC, A-Class facelift, CLA facelift, B-Class facelift, GLA facelift etc.

The upgraded lights with the four dots like others mentioned looks like a Porsche.
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Old May 20, 2023 | 08:03 PM
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Does any one know the 53 coupe winter package a must order option?
What is the estimated MSRP for the 2024 model?
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Old May 20, 2023 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wong_yk@yahoo.c
Does any one know the 53 coupe winter package a must order option?
What is the estimated MSRP for the 2024 model?

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Old May 21, 2023 | 10:46 AM
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Thank you, David.

Do you know if the winter package is mandatory from MB or the dealer? My dealer told me that all incoming AMG 53C4 has this package installed even I told her that in SoCal, I do not need this option.
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Old May 21, 2023 | 11:00 AM
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Thank you, David.

Do you know if the winter package is mandatory from MB or the dealer? My dealer told me that all incoming AMG 53C4 has this package installed even I told her that in SoCal, I do not need this option.
It is an optional addition according to the order guide.
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It is an optional addition according to the order guide.
It is optional in the order guy. When i ordered the car, i found out in the order paperwork and told my dealer, she said it was MB's glitch and should be fixed. Couple days earlier, i emailed her to check on the production date and to confirm if the winter package was removed. she told me that the winter package is in all incoming cars so far and the production date was postponed to June 26. I checked several dealership's invoice around SoCal dealerships and found all these incoming cars have the winter package in them and charged $450. It looks like it is not an optional order but mandatory from MB
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Well, then your resale isn't limited to SOCAL.
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Old May 21, 2023 | 07:49 PM
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Well, then your resale isn't limited to SOCAL.
My wife would require me to pay the ~$500 for heated steering wheel even if we only use it 1x per year lol
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Originally Posted by dmash
My wife would require me to pay the ~$500 for heated steering wheel even if we only use it 1x per year lol
She only drives 1x a year or it only gets cold enough that she wants that for that 1x time a year?
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
She only drives 1x a year or it only gets cold enough that she wants that for that 1x time a year?
I didn’t mean that literally….I meant it as she would want the comfort of a heating steering wheel even if it only dipped low enough to use once per year….
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Old May 23, 2023 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dmash
I didn’t mean that literally….I meant it as she would want the comfort of a heating steering wheel even if it only dipped low enough to use once per year….
I see, that is true then it is better to have it and not need it instead of need it and not have it.
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I see, that is true then it is better to have it and not need it instead of need it and not have it.
Especially if you have a wife who will also drive your vehicle* haha



Honestly though, winter package was a no brainer for me. That is a desired feature with the steering wheel when eventually reselling. Same reason I added the 4 zone climate and rear heated seats…..I have a small kiddo and might not use right now, but for a potential future buyer with teenagers that’s a huge perk.

At end of day, we’re discussing features that result in 0.5%-2% increase in purchase price. In the grand scheme this is pretty small and makes your vehicle more ‘loaded’ when it comes to selling onwards.

In my experience, aesthetic stuff like Carbon fiber for example isn’t really going to improve your resale but ‘useful’ features like certain packages actually will.

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