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I read your reply at least three time, but I don't quite understand what you mean:
1. The ISG and AWD seem to be significant additions to the base GLE.
2. There's also a demand difference as indicated by Days Supply
ISG is "Integrated Starter Generator," which is a mild hybrid with 48v system. Absent last year on the base car (GLE450 and above included it). AWD was optional on the 350 last year, standard this year.
Days Supply refers to the amount of cars on the ground, which shows how supply is keeping up with demand. 60 - 70 Days Supply has been an industry standard for years. Mercedes has seen 10 and 20 Days several months oner the past few years.
ISG is "Integrated Starter Generator," which is a mild hybrid with 48v system. Absent last year on the base car (GLE450 and above included it). AWD was optional on the 350 last year, standard this year.
Days Supply refers to the amount of cars on the ground, which shows how supply is keeping up with demand. 60 - 70 Days Supply has been an industry standard for years. Mercedes has seen 10 and 20 Days several months oner the past few years.
Day Supply can be misleading - especially when it comes to manufacturers. That is often more model specific unless there is a higher level issue going on like with Buic, jeep and full sized trucks.
Also, look at the competition. They are all less than Mercedes. BMW has been handily beating Mercedes and that has gotten worse - assuming that matters. The GLE has kept up but, what has happened to GLC sales?
Day Supply can be misleading - especially when it comes to manufacturers. That is often more model specific unless there is a higher level issue going on like with Buic, jeep and full sized trucks.
Also, look at the competition. They are all less than Mercedes. BMW has been handily beating Mercedes and that has gotten worse - assuming that matters. The GLE has kept up but, what has happened to GLC sales?
Yes, every model is different, and a deeper dive needed for more detail. Also, every Dealer is different.
GLE 450s were the shortest model supply, 350s were short in '20 but caught up end of year.
All those with less than 40 - 50 days have pricing power.
In 2020 and early 2021, MB faced 7 - 8 days supply. Many Dealers had zero, with less than 10 days In Transit over the next 30 days. I think they began catching up mid '22.
I just showed the most recently available data. You can dive deeper at ***, Ward's and Crain publications.
It's still "misleading" until you get into Take Rates for various option packages. Then you see what models were delayed by supply chain bothers. And regional differences,. Too detailed for me.
I'm not making any brand comparisons; just presenting data.
Day Supply can be misleading - especially when it comes to manufacturers. That is often more model specific unless there is a higher level issue going on like with Buic, jeep and full sized trucks.
Also, look at the competition. They are all less than Mercedes. BMW has been handily beating Mercedes and that has gotten worse - assuming that matters. The GLE has kept up but, what has happened to GLC sales?
The GLC has been out of production for some time as they transitioned from the X253 to X254, meaning dealers had only Coupe models for the longest time.
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Originally Posted by Eric Tsang
what is ISG? yeah AWD being included is an added thing, but I live in the south, so having the RWD option saves me the extra 2.5k it would have normally cost that I don't need to spend.
Yeah, mercedes is selling every single one they make, so people don't seem to mind yet.
Yup in your case not having AWD will both save gas and weight but looks like MB thinks everyone will take their SUV offroading?
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Originally Posted by Eric Tsang
nevermind, it's shown on page 20 of the order guide. the upper lines/dots are standard, the lower are part of the package. Both looks are such a downgrade too...
Someone mentioned the dots look like a Porsche, maybe MB is targeting Cayenne customers... but why?
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Originally Posted by BlueYonder
Inflation affects automobile manufacturers too. Most manufacturers have raised their prices. BMW raised the price on the X5 40i about 4% from 2023 to 2024.
I’ve had a GLE53 Coupé ordered since last month at my dealer. I have a confirmed June23 build date, GLE53C’s aren’t starting until June for sure.
A few notes:
MSRP has very much increased due to the newly standard options, a Pinnacle base model starts now at $93.1k, so a bare bones base 53C should be ~$89.8k. I am optioned out almost entirely, so my build is right at $109.5k.
a lot of stuff is delayed, mostly paint colors, but also annoyingly to me is the AMG fuel cap.
the red brake calipers which come on the 63 and could be obtained with the Dynamic Plus Package (not an option anymore) are for sure no longer available with 53. The best you can do, is what I did, and piece together Active Ride Control, silver high performance braking system and Track Pace as individual options.
3D Burmeister seems to indeed no longer be an option, was personally a bit let down with this as well.
Hope this helps anybody interested, as I’ve been bugging my dealer almost weekly who has graciously messaged me as soon as he has updates haha. Attached my order sheet below (MSRP is still unavailable in order system, but it’s confirmed).
I’ve had a GLE53 Coupé ordered since last month at my dealer. I have a confirmed June23 build date, GLE53C’s aren’t starting until June for sure.
A few notes:
MSRP has very much increased due to the newly standard options, a Pinnacle base model starts now at $93.1k, so a bare bones base 53C should be ~$89.8k. I am optioned out almost entirely, so my build is right at $109.5k.
a lot of stuff is delayed, mostly paint colors, but also annoyingly to me is the AMG fuel cap.
the red brake calipers which come on the 63 and could be obtained with the Dynamic Plus Package (not an option anymore) are for sure no longer available with 53. The best you can do, is what I did, and piece together Active Ride Control, silver high performance braking system and Track Pace as individual options.
3D Burmeister seems to indeed no longer be an option, was personally a bit let down with this as well.
Hope this helps anybody interested, as I’ve been bugging my dealer almost weekly who has graciously messaged me as soon as he has updates haha. Attached my order sheet below (MSRP is still unavailable in order system, but it’s confirmed).
!!! My mistake you ordered a coupe not an SUV !!!
Wow I had ordered or submitted to dealer an order for a 2024 GLE 53, if that's true and the base price is now $89,000 that's a big increase from the
the $76950 current base price. That's a price increase of 16% that's a huge increase. So they added a few options, the additions were not worth $12,950.
Wow I had ordered or submitted to dealer an order for a 2024 GLE 53, if that's true and the base price is now $89,000 that's a big increase from the
the $76950 current base price. That's a price increase of 16% that's a huge increase. So they added a few options, the additions were not worth $12,950.
This is for ‘24 Coupe, base was $81,200. It’s about a 8.5k increase, which makes total sense as that’s around what it was to spec the newly standard features to a 2023 build
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Originally Posted by MBArizona
No!!! Ugh, just when I got my hopes up.
Options currently not available:
Magic vision wipers
Burmester 3D
High performance AMG brakes (Red calipers)
Did I miss anything else?
*Side note: any reason why the 21” wheels are the only wheels not available with summer tires?
Is it just the red colour unavailable? I wonder why they went out of red paint???
I am guessing the 21 wheels being 21s have more difficulty and options to source tires from as opposed to smaller sizes? Unless the 22 is available with summer tires?
It’s my first MB direct order though, so how accurate that is I have no idea.
Same here. My dealer called me today told me that my 450W4 is scheduled for 6/29 build. He told me to add 3-4 weeks for delivery and we are in Michigan. So probably late July I hope. He said there is a chance the plant could speed up and beat that schedule but I won't count on that.
04-26-2023, 05:22 PM
