GLE 450e drive mode EL when Hybrid (H) selected
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2024 AMG EQE SUV / 2024 GLE 450e hybrid
GLE 450e drive mode EL when Hybrid (H) selected
Dealer could not answer question. When I select Hybrid drive mode in mbux center screen the mode indicator on the driver screen goes to “H”. But it later shifts to “EL”. And when first turn on ignition, EL is pn driver screen although mbux selection is hybrid (H). The drivers manual is vague on H vs EL
driver manual implies EL is standard mode and H is route dependent but does not explain how to select route dependent vs standard. I would rather be under control of drive mode vice software control
Can anyone to help? Two questions here-EL vs H explain and how select EL over H or vice versa as car defaults to EL when turning on ignition. This might be an easy answer since only had the car 4 weeks. Why EL in driver display when H is selected in mbux center display. And if software selects EL as standard mode and H selected in route based mode how does one control standard vs route based
driver manual implies EL is standard mode and H is route dependent but does not explain how to select route dependent vs standard. I would rather be under control of drive mode vice software control
Can anyone to help? Two questions here-EL vs H explain and how select EL over H or vice versa as car defaults to EL when turning on ignition. This might be an easy answer since only had the car 4 weeks. Why EL in driver display when H is selected in mbux center display. And if software selects EL as standard mode and H selected in route based mode how does one control standard vs route based
Last edited by donaldm241; Jan 6, 2024 at 01:54 PM.
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2024 GLE 450e, 2019 C300W4
I've had my 450E for about 4 months now. I find your question(s) rather difficult to understand but here's what I do after playing around with all the issues you've raised. When I'm driving around town (less than 40 miles a day) I simply stay in the EL mode which I prefer. On the road or on what I know in advance will be an extended trip I drive in the Sports mode and use the supplemental electrical power potential which implements automatically when I occasionally need it such as in passing. In practice about 80% of my trips (not miles) are in the EL mode and the remainder in the Sports mode. As I approach home base (40 ≈miles) and my in garage charger I often finish out the trip in the EL mode. I really don't care what the MPG blend is but my Mercedes Me app tells me I've averaged 69.2 mpg since delivery; that's good enough for me🧐 Life's too short to worry about all the details sometimes. I've been driving GLE's for years now and for me the 450E my favorite model. I love the pace of the regenerative braking in stop and go traffic. I've not had any significant performance issues but the noise of the intermittent extending rear camera which is extensively discussed elsewhere on this forum is a serious defect. I hope there is a programming solution.
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I've been driving GLE's for years now and for me the 450E my favorite model. I've not had any significant performance issues but the noise of the intermittent extending rear camera which is extensively discussed elsewhere on this forum is a serious defect. I hope there is a programming solution.
https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...ml#post8885493
Our GLS doesn't have the issue, but if it did, it would drive me batty. Good luck!
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GLE 450e
I've had my 450E for about 4 months now. I find your question(s) rather difficult to understand but here's what I do after playing around with all the issues you've raised. When I'm driving around town (less than 40 miles a day) I simply stay in the EL mode which I prefer. On the road or on what I know in advance will be an extended trip I drive in the Sports mode and use the supplemental electrical power potential which implements automatically when I occasionally need it such as in passing. In practice about 80% of my trips (not miles) are in the EL mode and the remainder in the Sports mode. As I approach home base (40 ≈miles) and my in garage charger I often finish out the trip in the EL mode. I really don't care what the MPG blend is but my Mercedes Me app tells me I've averaged 69.2 mpg since delivery; that's good enough for me🧐 Life's too short to worry about all the details sometimes. I've been driving GLE's for years now and for me the 450E my favorite model. I love the pace of the regenerative braking in stop and go traffic. I've not had any significant performance issues but the noise of the intermittent extending rear camera which is extensively discussed elsewhere on this forum is a serious defect. I hope there is a programming solution.
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From: Boutersem, Belgium
'22 GLE 350e
Dealer could not answer question. When I select Hybrid drive mode in mbux center screen the mode indicator on the driver screen goes to “H”. But it later shifts to “EL”. And when first turn on ignition, EL is pn driver screen although mbux selection is hybrid (H). The drivers manual is vague on H vs EL
driver manual implies EL is standard mode and H is route dependent but does not explain how to select route dependent vs standard. I would rather be under control of drive mode vice software control
Can anyone to help? Two questions here-EL vs H explain and how select EL over H or vice versa as car defaults to EL when turning on ignition. This might be an easy answer since only had the car 4 weeks. Why EL in driver display when H is selected in mbux center display. And if software selects EL as standard mode and H selected in route based mode how does one control standard vs route based
driver manual implies EL is standard mode and H is route dependent but does not explain how to select route dependent vs standard. I would rather be under control of drive mode vice software control
Can anyone to help? Two questions here-EL vs H explain and how select EL over H or vice versa as car defaults to EL when turning on ignition. This might be an easy answer since only had the car 4 weeks. Why EL in driver display when H is selected in mbux center display. And if software selects EL as standard mode and H selected in route based mode how does one control standard vs route based
I've had my 450E for about 4 months now. I find your question(s) rather difficult to understand but here's what I do after playing around with all the issues you've raised. When I'm driving around town (less than 40 miles a day) I simply stay in the EL mode which I prefer. On the road or on what I know in advance will be an extended trip I drive in the Sports mode and use the supplemental electrical power potential which implements automatically when I occasionally need it such as in passing. In practice about 80% of my trips (not miles) are in the EL mode and the remainder in the Sports mode. As I approach home base (40 ≈miles) and my in garage charger I often finish out the trip in the EL mode. I really don't care what the MPG blend is but my Mercedes Me app tells me I've averaged 69.2 mpg since delivery; that's good enough for me🧐 Life's too short to worry about all the details sometimes. I've been driving GLE's for years now and for me the 450E my favorite model. I love the pace of the regenerative braking in stop and go traffic. I've not had any significant performance issues but the noise of the intermittent extending rear camera which is extensively discussed elsewhere on this forum is a serious defect. I hope there is a programming solution.
Regen braking should always be enabled. In the EL drive mode, you can adjust the amount of regen using the paddles.
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I don't see that you can adjust the regen braking very much. From what I can see, there's only one extra-regen mode "D-" with the left paddle, and one no-or-little-regen(?) mode "D+" with the right paddle. Or am I missing something? And, in my experience, going into "D-" mode means that the car will brake fairly quickly when you let off on the accelerator pedal (i.e., without touching the brake pedal) at speeds > 40 mph or so, but once you get under about 30 mph, the car just seems to go into "coasting" mode in "D-" mode (meaning you have to apply the brake pedal rather aggressively). This is exactly the opposite of the situation in my Volvo XC60 T8 ER (another PHEV), in which you really have one-pedal driving (the car slows very slowly at speeds > 40 mph, but once you get under 30 mph, it aggressively regen-brakes to a complete stop). Also, in my Volvo, you can set it to stay in "one-pedal" driving (i.e., aggressive-regen mode) automatically every time you start up the car, but in the GLE 450e, I don't think there's a way to do so (unless I'm missing something; i.e., it resets to "D" every time you turn off the car and restart it, as opposed to starting in "D-" mode if you were driving that way previously).
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'22 GLE 350e
I don't see that you can adjust the regen braking very much. From what I can see, there's only one extra-regen mode "D-" with the left paddle, and one no-or-little-regen(?) mode "D+" with the right paddle. Or am I missing something? And, in my experience, going into "D-" mode means that the car will brake fairly quickly when you let off on the accelerator pedal (i.e., without touching the brake pedal) at speeds > 40 mph or so, but once you get under about 30 mph, the car just seems to go into "coasting" mode in "D-" mode (meaning you have to apply the brake pedal rather aggressively). This is exactly the opposite of the situation in my Volvo XC60 T8 ER (another PHEV), in which you really have one-pedal driving (the car slows very slowly at speeds > 40 mph, but once you get under 30 mph, it aggressively regen-brakes to a complete stop). Also, in my Volvo, you can set it to stay in "one-pedal" driving (i.e., aggressive-regen mode) automatically every time you start up the car, but in the GLE 450e, I don't think there's a way to do so (unless I'm missing something; i.e., it resets to "D" every time you turn off the car and restart it, as opposed to starting in "D-" mode if you were driving that way previously).
But indeed, the setting isn't remembered. It even resets when you use cruise control, for some unknown reason.
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From my experience with owning three non-MB PHEVs from three different automakers, it makes most sense to drive in "Hybrid Hold" mode (or what MB calls "Battery Hold" mode) at highway speeds (i.e., > 45 mph) to keep the traction battery at the same general charge level when driving on long road trips, so as to be able to use all-electric in stop-and-go traffic.
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From: Boutersem, Belgium
'22 GLE 350e
So do you know if regen works in "Battery Hold" mode? Have you experimented with all the drive modes to see if regen works better in any of them than in the others, between "Sport", "Hybrid", "Electric", and "Battery Hold"?
From my experience with owning three non-MB PHEVs from three different automakers, it makes most sense to drive in "Hybrid Hold" mode (or what MB calls "Battery Hold" mode) at highway speeds (i.e., > 45 mph) to keep the traction battery at the same general charge level when driving on long road trips, so as to be able to use all-electric in stop-and-go traffic.
From my experience with owning three non-MB PHEVs from three different automakers, it makes most sense to drive in "Hybrid Hold" mode (or what MB calls "Battery Hold" mode) at highway speeds (i.e., > 45 mph) to keep the traction battery at the same general charge level when driving on long road trips, so as to be able to use all-electric in stop-and-go traffic.
You can see it working on the dash if you select the tachometer display, like so:
The "CHARGE" bar indicates the amount of regen that is being applied.
A neat trick that is great for heavy towing / long mountain passes: if you set the limiter, the system will automatically prefer regen braking, without every touching (and thus overheating) the actual brakes. No need to downshift or anything
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So do you know if regen works in "Battery Hold" mode? Have you experimented with all the drive modes to see if regen works better in any of them than in the others, between "Sport", "Hybrid", "Electric", and "Battery Hold"?
From my experience with owning three non-MB PHEVs from three different automakers, it makes most sense to drive in "Hybrid Hold" mode (or what MB calls "Battery Hold" mode) at highway speeds (i.e., > 45 mph) to keep the traction battery at the same general charge level when driving on long road trips, so as to be able to use all-electric in stop-and-go traffic.
From my experience with owning three non-MB PHEVs from three different automakers, it makes most sense to drive in "Hybrid Hold" mode (or what MB calls "Battery Hold" mode) at highway speeds (i.e., > 45 mph) to keep the traction battery at the same general charge level when driving on long road trips, so as to be able to use all-electric in stop-and-go traffic.
How do you get to 'D--' Mode? when i press the left paddle, it goes to 'D-'
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Yes, it works in all modes, including "Battery Level".
You can see it working on the dash if you select the tachometer display, like so:
The "CHARGE" bar indicates the amount of regen that is being applied.
A neat trick that is great for heavy towing / long mountain passes: if you set the limiter, the system will automatically prefer regen braking, without every touching (and thus overheating) the actual brakes. No need to downshift or anything
You can see it working on the dash if you select the tachometer display, like so:
The "CHARGE" bar indicates the amount of regen that is being applied.
A neat trick that is great for heavy towing / long mountain passes: if you set the limiter, the system will automatically prefer regen braking, without every touching (and thus overheating) the actual brakes. No need to downshift or anything
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Mine only has the D- option as well. In the default AUTO mode there is some regenerative braking present but it is considerably less effective than that of the D- mode. I'm not sure that I would want more regenerative braking than that the D- mode already provides.
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I'm just guessing, but the previous poster was from Europe, and they've had the 'e' for a couple of years vs the USA just starting in 2014 models.
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