Thericker

Says the C5 Z06 has multiple mods, headers, tuning, cat-back, intake etc..All his w210 has is K&N an X-pipe, and miraculously dropped a 100lbs Says they ran from 80-130mph "NEARLY DEAD EVEN" & Z06 can't gain on him at high speeds



Poor guy ran a reg base C5 w/ZERO mods, that was in dire need of repairs and a decent driver...... That's the only possibility of a race like he describes the E55 210 runs 13.50-13.80 @ 105-108 base C5 would still beat him, runs 13.20-13.40 @ 105-109

baybenzo

sad to see the ricer mentality in a mercedes owner. even a stock C5 Z06 is much faster at "high speeds" than a W210 E55. i took my friend's up to 170mph like it was nothing

Thericker

I'm not mad at this guy but damn, he's nutz I have the same hp torque in my C6 and ran a stock 210 E55 it wasn't even fun, it was like passing someone going 55mph in the slow lane, when your doing 90mph pulled 15-20 lengths on the dude.

I have the A4 auto w/3.15 gears, a frickin' C5 Z06 has M6 w/3.42's How retarded of a driver would you have to be to screw up 80-130? in a manual??

Worst part, he's saying this guys decently moded, those mods easily add up to 400+rwhp, A C5 Z06 w/those mods will take out a stock w211 E55k. Someone talk some sense into this misguided individual

ProjectC55

I'd love to race a C5 ZO6 !

Raced and beat a 06 C6 at E-town brand new but the kid could not drive! However with my new mods ,I'd like to race a C5 Z06 or a Reg C6 with a seasoned driver to see how far my modded W202"C" has come.

Mods:
5.5l motor
Superchips SW
Green Filters

New mods:
Swain Coated Kleemann headers
Kleemann cams
Superchips SW
Custom 3" exh
Car weighs 3450 lbs. Will weigh at E-town out of curiosity.

itsmeek

w/your mods- a c5 z06 would still most likely massacre you on the highway. multiple runs in mine w/vararam intake and exhaust with m6 c6's resulted in 2-3 cars from 60-120ish. plus those cars are built for high speed- i kid you not, the c5 z06 was scary on the highway while accellerating. i can't even imagine what my c6 z06 will feel like when i find one.

Thericker

See you're a great impartial practical enthusiast , the Vettes are truely made for high speed bombing as well as bottom end 0-60 probably the best bang for the buck out there, yes plenty missing on interior, etc..

I just couldn't resist schooling this Omey character truely ridiculous

Also the C5 Z06 is about 4-6 mph faster in the traps, and up to half a sec. in the 1/4 over the new base C6, factoring in dreaded "Torque Management" programing, & smaller 18" wheels out back, lighter curb weight, are a few defining factors off the top of my head.

ProjectC55

Well guess what? There's only one way to find out! He should win,he could win,he might win but we'll see. You don't know!

Jons95c36amg

The w202 bodies feel like a brick at high speeds compare to my Z. Going into the triple digits the Z feels more solid than my c36. The Vettes have a big advantage at high speeds.

Thericker

(1) I applaud your track experience
(2) Nicely modded car you've got
(3) Vettes at high speed suck down like a magnet to the road w/excellent handling
(4) No guessing, even if you dump the extra weight your talking about you will be heavily out matched just as omey the clown is, by 50-100 rwhp (If modded like Omeys description 100rwhp disadvantage)

Stock rwhp is around 350-360 same w/rwto, weighing damn close to 3,000lbs he'll eat you alive from any speed when properly driven, don't forget his gearing advantage of 3.42's your only difference from Omey is weight, I have not a clue how good or badly that old body style can handle speed, a guess would be no where near the C5 Z06.


Your sig speaks volumes 13.39 @ 102 --C5 Z06 have run as low as 11.85-11.90 @ 116 - 118 bone stock, I have the magazine article w/full test/track data write up, if you want me to re-post it? also plenty of bone stock runs from Vette sites damn close to these results w/track slips

ProjectC55

You're "Z" already experienced the wrath of my car! I guarantee you would'nt say that if you were in it!

ProjectC55

My car comes stck with 3.06 gears in the rear compared to Omey's 2.82 gears and he's 350 lbs. heavier.

Grant it I give the advantage to the vette big time. However,
my #'s were affected by quite a few things:

That run was my first run ever in this car
Tire pressure way too low 24psi in the Pirelli P zero nero's
CEL on due to severly leaking exh.
Results: car was running pig rich
car kept falling on it's face as the revs went up and the speed inc.
My car shuold be trapping WAY over 102mph (PTE ran 12.4 @111 in his heavy W209 CLK55 with this same exact setup and my car is lighter, but he posted the 12.6 run which you'll see in drag times )
In May we'll see!
Not everybody gets the C5 Zo6 to run high 11's
If AMG does not do it ,it will be left to my modded mitsu!!!!

PS Is'nt a C6 faster than a C5 Z06? Like I said,unless you're a seasoned driver the Z06 could be a challenge to launch. I'd love to race one from a roll with my present mods. (C5 Z06) or a C5 Z-51

2k4 C5 ZO6



http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.ph...ame=Compare%21

Once the Kleemann S/C goes on _Pause_ WATCH OUT!!!

350Zman

1/4 mile et's dont mean squat in a highway race......I guess we will have to see if we can get one of those Z06's at Captree to bite...Only one way to know for sure. Run em...I think it would be a good run with the edge to the C5 Z06 as the gearing is insane.....Even the faster GTS Viper of its time had trouble with them up till around the 1/4 mile before they pulled away....C5 Z is a good measuring stick to see if your car is fast YOu run with a Z06 your car is fast period...

itsmeek

no offense here but my 4 banger turbo'd acura rsx ran high 12's at low boost and couldn't keep up w/the z06 at high boost on the highway or from a 1/4 mile dig. on the other hand it would punish my brothers e55 (non supercharged '01 i think) if you ran a 13.3, you would get ANNIHILATED by a regular c5, forget the z06. once you put on the kleeman sc, go find a z06 w/under 2k of head/cam work and see the light

i know a lot of guys that think their cars are fast and that they can keep up w/a stock z06. what they don't realize is that the stock z06 is a world competitor and consistently bested exotics in it's time like the c6 z06 does now.

no, the c6 is NOT faster then a c5 z06. no way, no how.

ProjectC55

PETEEEE!!! Whattup kid! Cams go in this wknd with the headers. Stay tuned!

ProjectC55

Dude did you not read my post about the problems I had with my car on that run?

When I find a C5 Z06, and we run, we will see! I have no fear of the C5 Z06 or a C6 Z-51. or a C5 Z51. C6 Z06 is a totally different story. With a blown head gasket in my Modded 7 bolt Mitsu I've annhilated N/A E55's and C5 Z-51's. 17psi.

PS I've never seen a turbocharched Ac at e-town I was impressed with. They always blow up and you have to spend TONS of $$ to build the motor and get them to run reliably. I'm a Toyota ,Mitsu man! And if you want,you can bring your C32 to run my AMG or even better bring your Z06!!

itsmeek

i've never heard of an rsx turbo blowing an engine unless the person was trying to run over 16psi of boost on stock internals. i know dozens of them running on stock internals w/over 350whp for years and no problems at all. the older integras had issues, the k series are great for boost.

i don't think my c32 will have problems running you. i'd be happy to do so, where are you?



and this is now in the process of being boosted:

http://www.pbase.com/itsmeek/m3_pics

i agree with you on the mitsu's, i love them. as far as the toyotas, i can only agree with you on the supras and is300's (same engine i think) or the all trac celicas they had. any honda can be boosted reliably, i'm thinking of boosting my little d16

ProjectC55

NYC! Just follow the the E55 W211 or the other 55 threads for when we plan on caravanning to E-town or Atco! Love to see you and everbody there.

ProjectC55

Ahhhh, looked at your M3,seems like we have a thing for the same type of cars!

itsmeek

that would be awesome. my bro lives in brooklyn, he's doing his residency at lennox hill. maybe i can come down and meet everyone. we shall see. alas..my z06 was sold a while ago. we can always mess around w/the c32 and the boosted m3 if it's done soon here.

JAYCL600

Why does everyone think its so hard to launch a C5 its actually fairly easy to launch these cars consistently as they really dont like a hard launch, just an easy roll-out and stomp then its bye-bye. I have witnessed with my own eyes a bone stock C5 ZO6 run high 11's at 118. I have the same motor as you have in my w210 albeit not modified as yours but i am of the opinion that it is wishful thinking to beat one of these cars from a dig or a roll.

itsmeek

it definitely is wishful thinking, this is why i said he should run the c5 non z06 first. and the z06 was simple to launch. no need for tire burning as you have enough torque to baby it out and enough tire to then stomp it.

JAYCL600

Are you coming to any of our local get-togethers...we have one this sunday in rockville and a track day next thursday @ MIR.

itsmeek

i leave for vegas for work at CAWorld tomorrow. i'll be there for a week. should be a BLAST.

JAYCL600

cool im sure your have fun in Vegas, stay in touch as we will have more meets all season

EvilllEmpirE

i thought you weren't afraid of any Z06? This was your quote on the other thread....."No disrespect but I fear no Z06,no BMW M5,no AMG anything and definitely Not an Audi!". Just wondering what you meant since you stated you fear no Z06 (which would include a new C6 Z06)