95 C36 vs 01 Audi S4
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Audi S4 Avant and BMW X5 4.4
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there is no way a stage1 s4 will take a clk55.
sorry, but it just doesn't add up. clk55 weigh less and have more hp.
a stage2 s4 will be close, but the clk55 will win at higher speeds.
stage2+ (w/rs4 intercoolers) will beat a clk55 - not by much though.
i'm more than happy to meet anyone at e-town to test it out![devil](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/devil.gif)
sorry, but it just doesn't add up. clk55 weigh less and have more hp.
a stage2 s4 will be close, but the clk55 will win at higher speeds.
stage2+ (w/rs4 intercoolers) will beat a clk55 - not by much though.
i'm more than happy to meet anyone at e-town to test it out
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Again, this is NOT a standard stage 1 tune. This is not software from GIAC / AWE / APR / REVO. This is a far more powerful tune done by SSP. The same file that one of our stage 2+ cars destroyed a CL55K. (This is a very low 12s car on stock K03s.) This is software tailored to the car, which Toms car is currently Testing.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html
CLK's don't even get out of 13s STOCK. If you honestly think a CLK55 is remotely touching a stage 2 you're sadly mistaken. I'd put any money that Tom's Stage 1 S4 will destroy a CLK55. (Not making excuses but Toms car has bad EGT's as well, limp mode 5psi after 6200rpm, even knowing this I'd put money down on his car.)
Just for reference, this is another one of our cars, WITHOUT our new tune.
Standard GIAC X. ASP Exhaust, Tune, Dv's and short shifter. (I have worked on and driven this car numerous times.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fneW-IynSQ
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Stock B5 S4's are pretty slow. Once the boost gets turned up its a completely different animal.
I would have had 2 nice Stage II's ready for you guys but they are now Stage III.
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There should be some money on the table for this.
Again, this is NOT a standard stage 1 tune. This is not software from GIAC / AWE / APR / REVO. This is a far more powerful tune done by SSP. The same file that one of our stage 2+ cars destroyed a CL55K. (This is a very low 12s car on stock K03s.) This is software tailored to the car, which Toms car is currently Testing.
Again, this is NOT a standard stage 1 tune. This is not software from GIAC / AWE / APR / REVO. This is a far more powerful tune done by SSP. The same file that one of our stage 2+ cars destroyed a CL55K. (This is a very low 12s car on stock K03s.) This is software tailored to the car, which Toms car is currently Testing.
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Just say the car is tuned and end the story lol. Keep it on the low...
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There should be some money on the table for this.
Again, this is NOT a standard stage 1 tune. This is not software from GIAC / AWE / APR / REVO. This is a far more powerful tune done by SSP. The same file that one of our stage 2+ cars destroyed a CL55K. (This is a very low 12s car on stock K03s.) This is software tailored to the car, which Toms car is currently Testing.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html
CLK's don't even get out of 13s STOCK. If you honestly think a CLK55 is remotely touching a stage 2 you're sadly mistaken. I'd put any money that Tom's Stage 1 S4 will destroy a CLK55. (Not making excuses but Toms car has bad EGT's as well, limp mode 5psi after 6200rpm, even knowing this I'd put money down on his car.)
Just for reference, this is another one of our cars, WITHOUT our new tune.
Standard GIAC X. ASP Exhaust, Tune, Dv's and short shifter. (I have worked on and driven this car numerous times.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fneW-IynSQ
Again, this is NOT a standard stage 1 tune. This is not software from GIAC / AWE / APR / REVO. This is a far more powerful tune done by SSP. The same file that one of our stage 2+ cars destroyed a CL55K. (This is a very low 12s car on stock K03s.) This is software tailored to the car, which Toms car is currently Testing.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html
CLK's don't even get out of 13s STOCK. If you honestly think a CLK55 is remotely touching a stage 2 you're sadly mistaken. I'd put any money that Tom's Stage 1 S4 will destroy a CLK55. (Not making excuses but Toms car has bad EGT's as well, limp mode 5psi after 6200rpm, even knowing this I'd put money down on his car.)
Just for reference, this is another one of our cars, WITHOUT our new tune.
Standard GIAC X. ASP Exhaust, Tune, Dv's and short shifter. (I have worked on and driven this car numerous times.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fneW-IynSQ
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the point i'm trying to make is that a clk55 is faster than a GIAC or AWE stage 1 s4.
also, from dig it hard to beat an s4 because of its awd and high torque. from roll, i bet a clk55 can beat a stage2 s4.
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i'm comparing a "normal" stage1 & 2 s4 to the clk55. if tommy's s4 is boosting 25 and does low 12s 1/4 mile, obviously its faster than my clk. i'm still having a hard time believing that k03 can handle that boost. from what i know, k03 are not reliable with regular boost. thats why everyone replaces them with k04 ![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
the point i'm trying to make is that a clk55 is faster than a GIAC or AWE stage 1 s4.
also, from dig it hard to beat an s4 because of its awd and high torque. from roll, i bet a clk55 can beat a stage2 s4.
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the point i'm trying to make is that a clk55 is faster than a GIAC or AWE stage 1 s4.
also, from dig it hard to beat an s4 because of its awd and high torque. from roll, i bet a clk55 can beat a stage2 s4.
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A properly running stage II will take you. I didn't believe it for myself but as you can see from the video, I got slaughtered. And that was on one of the closer runs. We did about 8 runs that night and everytime I got walked BADLY. He was break-boosting btw. Quant, sorry but you will lose.
Stock B5 S4's are pretty slow. Once the boost gets turned up its a completely different animal.
I would have had 2 nice Stage II's ready for you guys but they are now Stage III.
Stock B5 S4's are pretty slow. Once the boost gets turned up its a completely different animal.
I would have had 2 nice Stage II's ready for you guys but they are now Stage III.
i think most ppl don't give the 5.4L N/A enough respect
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all i know is that i was able to stay w/ a 6.0L GTO, pull away from an e39 m5, and beat a tuned STI (close to 400hp). all these cars have more hp than stage2 s4. add to that, i already beat a stage1 GIAC s4.
btw, i have a lot of respect for the b5 s4. can wait till the new s4 come out w/ the TT. but if stage2 s4 put down less than 290hp, i think i will beat them.
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what kind of hp are those stage2s putting down?
i think most ppl don't give the 5.4L N/A enough respect![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
all i know is that i was able to stay w/ a 6.0L GTO, pull away from an e39 m5, and beat a tuned STI (close to 400hp). all these cars have more hp than stage2 s4. add to that, i already beat a stage1 GIAC s4.
btw, i have a lot of respect for the b5 s4. can wait till the new s4 come out w/ the TT. but if stage2 s4 put down less than 290hp, i think i will beat them.
i think most ppl don't give the 5.4L N/A enough respect
![nix](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/nixweiss.gif)
all i know is that i was able to stay w/ a 6.0L GTO, pull away from an e39 m5, and beat a tuned STI (close to 400hp). all these cars have more hp than stage2 s4. add to that, i already beat a stage1 GIAC s4.
btw, i have a lot of respect for the b5 s4. can wait till the new s4 come out w/ the TT. but if stage2 s4 put down less than 290hp, i think i will beat them.
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I drove the car and I was really suprised by the constant torque from low RPM's.
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can u guys, post dyno sheets of stage1 & 2 s4.
these are the numbers that i usually see around (audizine.com and audiworld.com)
http://www.eurotuner.com/techarticle...ide/index.html
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I mean look theis cars can easily be underestimated. their 7 years old now. They come with puny turbos with a destiny to fail. Plastic IC's, and the list goes on....BUT make no mistake this car is deadly fast. Mine has currently raced the new XK8 with 3 people in the car + spare tire and another 30 lbs of crap in the trunk and I DESTROYED HIM. I've ran a C55 and let him get a 3 car jump on me. By the time we hit 90 I had a car on him. ::THIS IS WITH SHIFTING AT 6100~6400RPMS!!!!!!:: My red line is at 7300RPMS. Given on turbos cars the last few hundred rpms are useless because the car runs outa steam but HEY its still 1000RPMS. I also took down an E39 M5. This car is the german sleeper with bright blue paint.
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The difference between my CLK500 and the S4 in the video is drastic. The difference between my CLK500 and a CLK55 isn't as drastic as the S4.
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I mean look theis cars can easily be underestimated. their 7 years old now. They come with puny turbos with a destiny to fail. Plastic IC's, and the list goes on....BUT make no mistake this car is deadly fast. Mine has currently raced the new XK8 with 3 people in the car + spare tire and another 30 lbs of crap in the trunk and I DESTROYED HIM. I've ran a C55 and let him get a 3 car jump on me. By the time we hit 90 I had a car on him. ::THIS IS WITH SHIFTING AT 6100~6400RPMS!!!!!!:: My red line is at 7300RPMS. Given on turbos cars the last few hundred rpms are useless because the car runs outa steam but HEY its still 1000RPMS. I also took down an E39 M5. This car is the german sleeper with bright blue paint.
i understand that you have a fast stage1, and you will probably beat me. but that doesn't mean, that all stage1 s4 are faster than a clk55.
if you guys can just post dyno sheets of those car, then everyone will have a better idea of how strong stage1 & 2 are. the dynos that i've seen are very peaky, and have less max hp than a clk55.
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i think we should just end all this "debating" and meet up in Edgewater tomorrow night and see how these cars roll?![drive](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/driving.gif)
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02 CLK 55 AMG,09 C63 loaded with P30
I'm not doubting your car is fast. But there is always someone faster. I was debating on getting the 04 E55 which runs low 12s stock for under $40k but it has reliability issues. Also I don't race on the street anymore. Plus having 2 cars it would just sit in the garage most of the time. I wanted a sporty coupe with ***** and couldnt pass up a great deal.
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Not really...the CLK55 isn't night and day at all. It's definitely faster than my CLK500 but it isn't THAT much faster. You can see how easily I got wrecked by the S4. I'd expect the CLK55 to pull a few lengths on me, while the S4 pulled buslengths on me.
The difference between my CLK500 and the S4 in the video is drastic. The difference between my CLK500 and a CLK55 isn't as drastic as the S4.
The difference between my CLK500 and the S4 in the video is drastic. The difference between my CLK500 and a CLK55 isn't as drastic as the S4.
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dude, no one is stupid enough to underestimate the b5 s4. all i'm saying is that "most" stage1 & 2 s4 put down less than 290hp. they weigh more and have less hp than a clk55. so i would expect the clk55 to win from roll.
i understand that you have a fast stage1, and you will probably beat me. but that doesn't mean, that all stage1 s4 are faster than a clk55.
if you guys can just post dyno sheets of those car, then everyone will have a better idea of how strong stage1 & 2 are. the dynos that i've seen are very peaky, and have less max hp than a clk55.
i understand that you have a fast stage1, and you will probably beat me. but that doesn't mean, that all stage1 s4 are faster than a clk55.
if you guys can just post dyno sheets of those car, then everyone will have a better idea of how strong stage1 & 2 are. the dynos that i've seen are very peaky, and have less max hp than a clk55.
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02 CLK 55 AMG,09 C63 loaded with P30
I mean look theis cars can easily be underestimated. their 7 years old now. They come with puny turbos with a destiny to fail. Plastic IC's, and the list goes on....BUT make no mistake this car is deadly fast. Mine has currently raced the new XK8 with 3 people in the car + spare tire and another 30 lbs of crap in the trunk and I DESTROYED HIM. I've ran a C55 and let him get a 3 car jump on me. By the time we hit 90 I had a car on him. ::THIS IS WITH SHIFTING AT 6100~6400RPMS!!!!!!:: My red line is at 7300RPMS. Given on turbos cars the last few hundred rpms are useless because the car runs outa steam but HEY its still 1000RPMS. I also took down an E39 M5. This car is the german sleeper with bright blue paint.
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between GW Bridge and Lincoln Tunnel.....along the river on the Jersey side......Thursday nights is a big meet night. Can find all types of cars there
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Jackson! I went to Edgewater last Thurs but idk, it was kind of gay. Lots of Audis so I mean, you guys should have fun...but it wasn't big enough yet for me to pay those damn tolls and sit in the cross bronx and GW traffic lol. I still may go this Thurs if I can