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Old 09-18-2007, 06:58 AM
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350Z vs BMW 540i

To all the MB Naysayers who underestimate a 350z,in Jon's defense
Here is a perfect ex of what a modded 350Z is capable of doing to even some of our beloved MB's. This does not surprise me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onC1aPsfJAw

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Key word is "modded." If we mod our cars right we will be able to do some damage to those cars.

Other than that i'd rather have a 540i over a 350Z
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Key word is "modded." If we mod our cars right we will be able to do some damage to those cars.

Other than that i'd rather have a 540i over a 350Z
Not with a modded C230 your not!
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Originally Posted by mad_vtak
Key word is "modded." If we mod our cars right we will be able to do some damage to those cars.

Other than that i'd rather have a 540i over a 350Z
Yup. I agree. "Modded" really means something.

Hey! Let's mod our beloved Benzos too!

I think I'll get a Renntech ECU Upgrade tuning for my SL and a Hamann or Hartge or even Dinan to ECU tune my M5!

Then we'll see who's faster!
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Yup. I agree. "Modded" really means something.

Hey! Let's mod our beloved Benzos too!

I think I'll get a Renntech ECU Upgrade tuning for my SL and a Hamann or Hartge or even Dinan to ECU tune my M5!

Then we'll see who's faster!
Other than the AMG 5.5L V8's tell me what other MB V8(5.0,4.3),6,or inline 4 modded is capable of running low 13's or high 12's?

There was a big arguement in this section about these Z's being slow. That's why this vid was posted.
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Bolton a supercharger or Twin Turbo for under $8k on a 350z you will have at least 400hp to the wheels. How much does FI cost on a MB?
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Originally Posted by ProjectC55
Other than the AMG 5.5L V8's tell me what other MB V8(5.0,4.3),6,or inline 4 modded is capable of running low 13's or high 12's?

There was a big arguement in this section about these Z's being slow. That's why this vid was posted.
Z's are SLOW... E550 or CLK550 with non amg V8 would smoke a moded (bolt ons) Zs any day...
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Originally Posted by Quicktwinturbo
Z's are SLOW... E550 or CLK550 with non amg V8 would smoke a moded (bolt ons) Zs any day...
The 07 Zs ran a 13.4@105 in E-town NJ. The E550 which came out 07 runs similar times. Do your research before assuming!
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Oh forgot to mention it was bone stock.
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Modded or bone-stock, CLK550 or E550 will beat Zs neday on rolln start..
1/4 mile time doesn't really mean anything... CLK550 has the new 5.5L V8 making 382HP and 391lb-ft torque. Z makes about what?? 320ish even with bolt on??

Z's are nice cars but I don't think they are fast...

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Originally Posted by Quicktwinturbo
Modded or bone-stock, CLK550 or E550 will beat Zs neday on rolln start..
1/4 mile time doesn't really mean anything... CLK550 has the new 5.5L V8 making 382HP and 391lb-ft torque. Z makes about what?? 320ish even with bolt on??

Z's are nice cars but I don't think they are fast...
You just said the e550 will smoke the Z. My bro has the 04 GTO w exhaust putting 362hp crank vs my Zs 300hp crank. We did a 40 roll to 1xx it was a close race. He has the LS1 5.7 vette engine but is 500lbs heavier then my Z. Go figure.
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Yes. I think E550 (382hp / 391 tq) WILL smoke the Z.... If you had a close call with a car that makes 362hp, you'll lose to E550..

Many of my friends have Zs and I drove them and raced them (autox)...
I know u don't want to hear this but they are pretty slow..
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
You just said the e550 will smoke the Z. My bro has the 04 GTO w exhaust putting 362hp crank vs my Zs 300hp crank. We did a 40 roll to 1xx it was a close race. He has the LS1 5.7 vette engine but is 500lbs heavier then my Z. Go figure.
I agree.... I've had nothing but dead even runs with "newer" GTO's (400hp version) in my '6, from a dig and a roll on. I think they may suffer from gearing a bit....
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Originally Posted by ProjectC55
Other than the AMG 5.5L V8's tell me what other MB V8(5.0,4.3),6,or inline 4 modded is capable of running low 13's or high 12's?

There was a big arguement in this section about these Z's being slow. That's why this vid was posted.

What other standard non-AMG MB V8's or V-6, 1-4's? Standard or modded? Not clear because I was implicating about modifiying our own benzos (ie, my AMG SL and M5).

So yes, some modification to non-AMG MB V8's, or V6's and 1-4s will allow it to run high 12s and low 13s quite easily.

Just get some ECU tuning and that's done!

And yes, them 350Zs especially, are becoming pests!
Time to rip them apart on the street... let's see... either I can choose the SL or the M5.
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Originally Posted by ProjectC55
To all the MB Naysayers who underestimate a 350z,in Jon's defense
Here is a perfect ex of what a modded 350Z is capable of doing to even some of our beloved MB's. This does not surprise me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onC1aPsfJAw

hey C55, did you buy your car from Norman tong ? 98 C43 with a C55 swap ?
how do you like the car so far?.
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Bolton a supercharger or Twin Turbo for under $8k on a 350z you will have at least 400hp to the wheels. How much does FI cost on a MB?
$10k, not a whole lot of difference. Should get you 420 at the rear wheels.

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Originally Posted by Quicktwinturbo
Z's are SLOW... E550 or CLK550 with non amg V8 would smoke a moded (bolt ons) Zs any day...
Did you miss what I clearly posted in parenthesis (5.0,4.3)!!!! I don't see 5.5L included in there. Please read it again!
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What other standard non-AMG MB V8's or V-6, 1-4's? Standard or modded? Not clear because I was implicating about modifiying our own benzos (ie, my AMG SL and M5).

So yes, some modification to non-AMG MB V8's, or V6's and 1-4s will allow it to run high 12s and low 13s quite easily.
That's a bunch of ! Then you woke up!

I was clearly excluding AMG's ,the V6 C32's and SLK32's included. Please my modded E36 BMW M3 will run low 13's high 12's b4 any of the 5.0L 4.3L V8's would because we sure have not heard of any E,S,CL,CLK's V8's doing any such times yet! Only 5.0L V8 known to run low 13's is the AMG E50.
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Originally Posted by ProjectC55
That's a bunch of ! Then you woke up!

I was clearly excluding AMG's ,the V6 C32's and SLK32's included. Please my modded E36 BMW M3 will run low 13's high 12's b4 any of the 5.0L 4.3L V8's would because we sure have not heard of any E,S,CL,CLK's V8's doing any such times yet! Only 5.0L V8 known to run low 13's is the AMG E50.
I wish I took my CLK500 to E-town when it was modded...I'm willing to bet I would have hit 12's or at least have been reallll close. But then again, for some reason N20 gets no respect so it wouldn't have mattered lol.
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Bolton a supercharger or Twin Turbo for under $8k on a 350z you will have at least 400hp to the wheels. How much does FI cost on a MB?
Nothing, it came on my CL600. Just an ECU tune netted close to 525 RWHP.
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Man, I'm gettin tired of responding to this video....

1) a 5.0 E500 with a 7G will have no problem hanging with a 350z. 0 - 60 in 5.5 and q/m in 14flat @ 100 ain't going to be getting left behind anytime soon. A flawlessly driven '07 with the VQHR will be slightly quicker (13.6 - 13.7 @103ish) but '03 - '06 350z can get beatin on the street by a E500/CLK500, esp if the Z isn't a 6spd or driven well.

2) That 540 is the slowest possible 540 you could ever run. (Non-sport autotragic M62TU). If I go and put the beat down on a auto 350z Vert and start talkin smack what does that mean?

3) The race should be apples to apples.. 6spd vs. 6spd stock vs. stock or modd'd vs. modded.

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Most Z's that are able to run 12's are F/I.

Out of this list 3 cars managed to pull 12's on a N/A motor (http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan--350Z-Drag-Racing.html). One of them was on a 100shot Nitrous and the 2nd one could hardly be considered as minor bolt on mods only... http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-350Z-Timeslip-5220.html

So that leaves one N/A car, which doesn't have many mods, but it seems like that run was done on slicks. http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-350Z-Timeslip-8948.html And with a 106mph trap speed, you can bet that a 540 like this one ...

(---> http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-540i-Timeslip-4862.html) will give him a run for his money in a flying start race.



This guy's car is the exception to the rule and not the norm. Most N/A 350z's with minor bolt on's do not consistently running 12's and won't be trapping anywhere near 110mph.



350Z's and 540's are close races. That's it.

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Originally Posted by ProjectC55
That's a bunch of ! Then you woke up!

I was clearly excluding AMG's ,the V6 C32's and SLK32's included. Please my modded E36 BMW M3 will run low 13's high 12's b4 any of the 5.0L 4.3L V8's would because we sure have not heard of any E,S,CL,CLK's V8's doing any such times yet! Only 5.0L V8 known to run low 13's is the AMG E50.
Um... okay? Thanks for sharing?
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Originally Posted by Quicktwinturbo
Yes. I think E550 (382hp / 391 tq) WILL smoke the Z.... If you had a close call with a car that makes 362hp, you'll lose to E550..

Many of my friends have Zs and I drove them and raced them (autox)...
I know u don't want to hear this but they are pretty slow..
I'm talking about the 07 Z vs the e550 which is a new 07 model.
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
I'm talking about the 07 Z vs the e550 which is a new 07 model.
my money would be on the E550 stock for stock. They can trap 108mph in the q/m. Doubt a '07 Z will be trapping that high. Maybe 105 - 106mph if it's driven flawlessly & probably like 103ish driven by average driver.

I've raced a E550 and got my *** whooped & I've raced a modd'd '03 VQ35 6spd Maxima which weight like 3300lbs and was able to pull on him. I don't know what power mods he might've had but extracting 275 - 280HP from VQ35 isn't difficult. Factory rating was like 255 - 260 that year iirc.

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hey C55, did you buy your car from Norman tong ? 98 C43 with a C55 swap ?
how do you like the car so far?.
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