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Old 05-01-2008, 01:02 PM
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Listen. And understand. That Improviz is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
Wow. Totally busted. SLK55 slower than an LS2 GTO? LMAO!!
Believe it.

I'm not sure off the line, but from a rolling start you bet. Come on, the GTO has 400bhp versues the heavy SLKs 350.
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
Wait...let me get this straight a stock 6.0 GTO will roast an SLK55 ...and stay with an E55 with a Kompressor????

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Just with *my* E55, which again, at the time unknown to me was suffering from heat soak, the supercharger would just shut off. Once it was fixed, the 55 definitely handed an *** whuppin.
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Originally Posted by RBrenton
Listen. And understand. That Improviz is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
Then we'll be here awhile. Fact is, he just twists words, throws in half-truths, and because of his extensive research he visually provides, people count on it as being 100% accurate when the fact is, all he know's is what he see's on the internet.
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Originally Posted by RBrenton
Listen. And understand. That Improviz is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
Awesome quote, perfect usage bro! Hahaha!
Old 05-01-2008, 02:27 PM
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Then we'll be here awhile. Fact is, he just twists words, throws in half-truths, and because of his extensive research he visually provides, people count on it as being 100% accurate when the fact is, all he know's is what he see's on the internet.
I twisted nothing. I directly quoted YOUR posts, with time and date stamps, so that people could see that you are posting not *half* truths, but *untruths*.

Which you continue to spew (surprise, surprise). You're the new ClayJ, nothing more.
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Originally Posted by Improviz
I twisted nothing. I directly quoted YOUR posts, with time and date stamps, so that people could see that you are posting not *half* truths, but *untruths*.

Which you continue to spew (surprise, surprise). You're the new ClayJ, nothing more.
If you say so. But I still don't see where I lied.

All I see is you proving that at one point I didn't much care for AMG/Mercedes. Wow, congrats

If that does make me a "clayj" then so be it.
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You're the new ClayJ, nothing more.
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Yup, I was naive-- what can I say?

And I still hold to it, a 6.0 GTO can and WILL roast a SLK55, and a GTO can and WILL run a E55 door to door-- I should know, I had the E55. When I ran my brother, we went from 50-137 ish where my car shut off, the 55 was lagging due to heat soak, which at the time I had no idea off *hence* the results.



That's why I was "hating" on AMGs, I was in truth shocked my own E55 couldn't pull away from the GTO. I did get it fixed and the tables did turn, obvious from the fact I don't own a GTO or Vette.
Hmm, I see....so, you raced your brother's GTO in your E55, were disappointed with the results, and so decided to "hate on AMGs". No problem there....oh, wait, there is one small problem:

The thing is, the post where you "hated on the AMGs" was dated 8/3/2006...and this presents a tiny problem, because....

....drumroll, please....

....it's coming....

YOU (supposedly) BOUGHT YOUR E55 IN JUNE 2007!!!!

Posted 6/30/2007:
Originally Posted by Exodus
I had purchased a 2004 E55 last Friday,
OK, I see now...so, you bought your E55 in June '07, then promptly travelled back in time to August 2006, where you raced your brother (funny, in August 2006 you wrote that he was your "friend", and now he's morphed into your "brother"....I guess time travel can make your memory a bit fuzzy ), and, disappointed with the results, you "hated on AMGs".

You then travelled back to the future (is this an E55, or a DeLorean? ) to 2007, where you ran an 11.9 @ 119 in the car, which was presumably made faster by time travel, as back in 2006 it couldn't beat a 13.7/106 GTO....oh, no wait, what's that you say:

Originally Posted by Exodus
EDIT: Yup, that wasn't my E55, close friends. Because I used to wiegh in around 130, I drove it at the track for his 200 lb ***. I did acquire the E55 when I said I did. He insisted the weight difference would break 11s, and wouldn't you kow it? I know, I know-- Captain Cook with no proof right? Anyways I just never mentioned the one I ran wasn't mine. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Oh, gee, sorry about that...I guess I just misunderstood you when you plainly stated that you ran that time IN YOUR CAR:
Originally Posted by Exodus
11.9 modded? Or stock, stephen?

If modded, then I think I'll pass up the SL600. I thought the 600 would do that stock...

I've clocked 11.9 in my E55 just on K&N and exhaust. Street tires, as well.


What a tangled web you've woven there, sport....keep it up, this is fun!


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Originally Posted by jrcart
Are you saying a F430 traps at 132mph? Are you sure? When I got my car back from Evosport an F430 was one of the first cars I raced (in Vegas) and I beat it in 3 (20mph-about 110 mph) roll-ons in a row. The driver was so suprised and impressed he follwed me to my hotel and checked my car out for 15 minutes in the vallet line.
I was referring to the 599. They trap 132. Monstrous.

The F430 traps around 118mph if i remember correctly, so are neck and neck with the E60 M5.
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Wooooow. Sorry Exo, looks like the hounds are after you and there's no escaping. You've said some questionable stuff in the past, and now it's all coming together. Now I know I can be pretty ruthless, but nobody here goes for the jugular like Impro.

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Originally Posted by jrcart
Are you saying a F430 traps at 132mph? Are you sure? When I got my car back from Evosport an F430 was one of the first cars I raced (in Vegas) and I beat it in 3 (20mph-about 110 mph) roll-ons in a row. The driver was so suprised and impressed he follwed me to my hotel and checked my car out for 15 minutes in the vallet line.
He was referring to the 599GTB, which is an animal, and has a slightly detuned Enzo motor stuffed under the bonnet. The highest trap I've seen for a stock F430 was in the low 120 range.
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Originally Posted by Exodus
Yup, I was naive-- what can I say?

And I still hold to it, a 6.0 GTO can and WILL roast a SLK55
Dude you must be out of your damn mind!!
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Originally Posted by ProjectC55
Dude you must be out of your damn mind!!
It can. A 6.0 GTO can run door to door with a F360 spider. Trust me on it, the GTO can beat an SLK55.
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Originally Posted by Exodus
It can. A 6.0 GTO can run door to door with a F360 spider. Trust me on it, the GTO can beat an SLK55.
Dude I will look for a GTO 6.0L to run this wknd with my W202 C55. You are outta your mind!!
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Exodus:

You kind of lost some credibility there with the E55 "door to door" with the GTO. You can't make that claim if the E55 your are using to make that statement is running without boost...c'mon now!!! That would be like me saying I smoked an SLR....and then later qualifying that statement by disclosing the SLR was running spare donuts on the rears...and yet still maintaining "hey it happened". The reasonable standard is two cars running in optimal condition....otherwise it is an abberation.

As far as the SLK55...you do realize they are using a the 7 G-tronic tranny and they have 355hp and 376lbs-ft of torque and weigh only 3,420lbs.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2006/mer...307/specs.html

The 6.0 GTO weighs 3,725lbs...seems to me that comes out to a 305lbs difference in the SLK55's favor (yeah...I know...I am good at math). The horsepower (and torque) to weight ratios are very close (hp favoring GTO...torque favoring SLK55). However, the 7 speed tranny is a huge benefit to the SLK. There will be no "roasting" of SLK55's...even from a roll.... not to mention that on drag times two stock SLK55's are running 12.7-12.8 and no completely stock GTO is running under 12.9 (and there are a ton of GTO times out there...and only 3 stock SLK55's). Now there are many tuned GTO's running much better times...but let's compare apples to apples...

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Originally Posted by ProjectC55
Dude I will look for a GTO 6.0L to run this wknd with my W202 C55. You are outta your mind!!
I never said C55, I said SLK55. Even still, don't be surprised if he gives you a run. There not that slow.
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
Exodus:

You kind of lost some credibility there with the E55 "door to door" with the GTO. You can't make that claim if the E55 your are using to make that statement is running without boost...c'mon now!!! That would be like me saying I smoked an SLR....and then later qualifying that statement by disclosing the SLR was running spare donuts on the rears...and yet still maintaining "hey it happened". The resonable standard is two cars running in optimal condition....otherwise it is an abberation.

As far as the SLK55...you do realize they are using a the 7 G-tronic tranny and they have 355hp and 376lbs-ft of torque and weigh only 3,420lbs.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2006/mer...307/specs.html

The 6.0 GTO weighs 3,725lbs...seems to me that comes out to a 305lbs difference in the SLK55's favor (yeah...I know...I am good at math). The horsepower (and torque) to weight ratios are very close (hp favoring GTO...torque favoring SLK55). However, the 7 speed tranny is a huge benefit to the SLK. There will be no "roasting" of SLK55's...even from a roll.... not to mention that on drag times two stock SLK55's are running 12.7-12.8 and no completely stock GTO is running under 12.9 (and there are a ton of GTO times out there...and only 3 stock SLK55's). Now there are many tuned GTO's running much better times...but let's compare apples to apples...

Tom
How could I have disclosed that information about the heat soak if *I* had no idea it was happening.

The GTO can, believe that.
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It can. A 6.0 GTO can run door to door with a F360 spider. Trust me on it, the GTO can beat an SLK55.
That's a double negatory there. Goats are fat and slow and soft with bad gearboxes.
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That's a double negatory there. Goats are fat and slow and soft with bad gearboxes.
They're not that bad. Great motor with a myriad of aftermarket parts for under $20K. Someone wants a reliable fast car to trash, vuala. But to say stock for stock it runs with a 360 Modena with equal drivers...yeah, maybe in straight line with a 100 shot.
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Originally Posted by Exodus
How could I have disclosed that information about the heat soak if *I* had no idea it was happening.

The GTO can, believe that.
I thought you could have fixed that with your time machine....

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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
That's a double negatory there. Goats are fat and slow and soft with bad gearboxes.
Ok, if you say so. Not that I know any better, because you know I wasn't an American Muscle fan at one point. I know it can beat an SLK55. The HP/TQ is all in the 6.0 GTO favour.
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I thought you could have fixed that with your time machine....

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