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Old 04-30-2008, 08:55 PM
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:58 PM
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A Z-06 would walk a stock SL600, no doubt.
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"Would" sure didn't change what happened in my encounter.

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This is gonna be interesting... Continue, dont let the bystanders stop you.
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This is rather simple you see even if I line up with a million Z06s and they all beat me, it STILL wont change the results of the race I already participated in. I never said I was faster-- I just said I beat that ONE Z06, end of story gents.

If airheads around here want to blow it out of proportion then so be it.
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Jay, chill out. 575s are not that fast, for real. C&D tested an S600 that pulled a quarter a tenth quicker than a 575, so im sure an SL55 would have no problem keeping even with one. And the F has the big torque disadvantage.
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It wont make my 20s ride any rougher, the suede still will make his girls panties wet, I still get my massage, I still get my hard-top-drop-top, and I still drive a Mercedes and I could get his girl spending a fraction of the effort he did-- your point?

I could buy a 88 Civic for roughly 500 bucks, spend 5gs on a B16 and mop the floor with modded EVOs, still for a fraction of the cost of even the Mitsu. But I really don't care enough.

Have a nice day and go trade in your CL55 for a EVO if it will help you sleep at night.
Awww, you can't compare a crap civic to an EVO with which is a RALLY car to begin . EVOs are magnets for teenager boys and mid 20's to earily 30's men not hot *** babes! Why trade when you can buy a Supra?

But anyway, nice kill. You must be living the life with two SL's.
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I have beaten a stock 04 z06 MANY times. He's a buddy of mine and likes to keep trying. I have Kleemann pulley and tune on my 55. Stock other than that. When he hits 4th he barely starts catching me....
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Jay, chill out. 575s are not that fast, for real. C&D tested an S600 that pulled a quarter a tenth quicker than a 575, so im sure an SL55 would have no problem keeping even with one. And the F has the big torque disadvantage.
It's not only that. He has claimed to have pulled a heavily modded M6 all they way up into triple digits in his "stock" SL600, and a C6 Z06 as well, again up to 150 mph--with his top down, which kills aerodynamics...and now he's saying he's got 20" rims, which also hurt acceleration bigtime.

He also claimed to have beaten a C6 Z06 in a stock E55.

Z06s trap at 125 mph and go from 0-150 in under 18 seconds. Stock SL600s trap around 115-116, as do stock E55s which take over 24 seconds to go from 0-150. And six seconds at 150 mph is about 37 carlengths at 18' per car.

And we've all seen vids and read posts from more reputable members of what an M5/M6 will do to a stock E55 up above 100 mph.

Yet somehow, miraculously, he keeps pulling off these incredible wins in rolling start runs against a far, far faster car, yet when I and others have asked him if he'd be willing to show up and actually run a Z06 with cameras rolling, he balks.

Sounds like APK1013 all over again if you ask me....all talk and no show.



Or maybe he just raced this guy:

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Ah, Improviz. I know whenever I need attention, all I have to do is post a kill story and both you an E55Jay come running with numbers and theories. Thank you so much, I do love the attention, please proceed
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Originally Posted by Exodus
Ah, Improviz. I know whenever I need attention, all I have to do is post a kill story and both you an E55Jay come running with numbers and theories. Thank you so much, I do love the attention, please proceed
My pleasure....time for some major pwnage:

Hmm, it's funny how that now when someone wants *you* to show up and replicate a race that *you* claimed to have won, you refuse to show and say you have no desire to participate in an "immature d!ck measuring contest", but back in the day, you were singing a somewhat different tune, playing the role of what you might now refer to as a "GTO idolizer":
Originally Posted by Exodus
Falco & his **** kissing friend with a CLK55, (which, for the record, was me--improviz) I have a friend with a '05 GTO, the 400 horse, I told him about you two and how you have the FASTEST Mercedes out there-- obviously, considering you're on a E55s *** in a race, and he said he would run you both. So what do you say to a little "fun"?

I GAURANTEE, for the non-believers, the GTO will be door to door with both. This friday, if you so please, we are doing a little cruise, we can set up where to meet, and we can have someone record the race and post on line. PM me if you're "down", as it were.

BTW: Super-fast M5, I was with my friend racing the M5, and we were right next to him near the entire time, of course he did start pulling
away-- eventually.

Of course, I have no idea what I'm talking about, and because I disagree with the outcome of all these posted races I'm the acclaimed "troll", so pay no attention.
Gee, it's kind of funny: there you are, challenging an AMG owner to engage in what you now call an "immature d!ck measuring contest", because then, you were suspicious of his claims. And to put a nice little gift wrap to me on this little gem, you also seemed to be arguing that it was wrong for people to dismiss your opinion simply because you were arguing in favor of the GTO--you know, a non-AMG?

And you reiterated that point here:
Originally Posted by Exodus
Just to go on record, I'm not a hater against the AMGs, I just think the Goat is faster. At least when it comes to the SLK55s, C55s, CLK55s.
Oh, I see...so back *then*, you weren't a hater against the AMGs, or bagging on them, or a "GTO idolizer" who was attempting to engage in an "immature d!ck measuring contest"; you just happened to believe that the GTO was the faster car, *and* arguing that 400 hp GTO had hung with a 500 hp M5, which traps 12 mph faster (despite tons of road tests, not to mention common sense, showing exactly the opposite results in both cases, which seems to be a hallmark of yours)! But of course, *now*, anyone who argues that the non-AMG is the faster car *is* bagging on AMGs, and a "vette idolizer".



Also interesting is that you, at one time, seemed to be quite emphatic that a Z06 could not be beaten by an M6, which is about 3-4 secs faster from 0-150 than a stock E55 (yet of course, you trounced a Z06 in your stock E55, and anyone who questions this is a "vette idolizer"):
Originally Posted by Exodus
Surprisingly, he's not that stupid to try and get us to believe a Z06 would lose to a M6. Yay for Gustav
Wow, so at one point you played the role of "vette idolizer" yourself! Nicely done!

Another interesting matter...last year you claimed that you'd run an 11.90 @ 119 in a "bone stock" E55. Yet when asked to produce a slip, you replied:
Originally Posted by Exodus
No, unfortunatly I wasn't on mbworld at the time and I didn't really care to save the slip. Sorry.
This is a lie. Your first post On MBWorld this forum was on 7/19/06, and at that time and for some time thereafter, you made it quite clear that you did NOT own an E55 Posted 9/22/06:
Originally Posted by Exodus
You E-Class driving guys are freakin' crazy...
Five days later, you indicated that you were interested in purchasing an E Class:
Originally Posted by Exodus
I'm in the market for a new car, and my mind is
set on the E-Class. The 63 in particular due to the, no offense, some what dated looks of the 55. But, I will go for whichever is faster... the 55 is still amazing and is only dated in comparison. I just like the whole... Darth Vader look the 63 portrays black on black ESPECIALLY Mche55's E63. God that thing looks vicious. lol so, I'm a bit biased towards the 63...
And then there's this little nugget, from 9/29/06, which makes absolutely no sense if you had, as you wrote, run an 11.9 @ 119 in your E55 before you joined the forum:
Originally Posted by Exodus
Enzom, Fikse:

AMAZING RUNS!
I'm a firm believer that if the conditions were perfect, the E55 could break 11s... 11.8-11.9.

Fikse, my apologies for using your car without your permission, I wasn't aware it belonged to you; I hope you don't mind if I use(d) it to trounce this magazine racing troll...
So when was it that you actually did purchase the E55? In June 2007--a full year after you had joined the forum:
Originally Posted by Exodus
I had purchased a 2004 E55 last Friday, and 12 hours fresh off the lot I had to get it towed. So at around midnight a tow truck came and took my E-Class to Fletcher Jones.
Care to explain? You said that at the time you supposedly ran this amazing 11.9 @ 119 run in your stock E55, you weren't active in these forums. And yet now we see that this is absolutely, totally a lie.

The truth is that not only were you active in the forum at the time you said you purchased that car, you were *very* active--yet never even bothered to post the slip, or mention/discuss the run, which at that time would have been one of the fastest stock runs ever, to/with any forum members.

This despite your having cited dragtimes.com slips for E55s and lots of other cars, posting videos (I guess when *you* post videos, they're ironclad), etc...and oh, of course: after taking several hours to go to a track and perform this amazing run, why would you take two minutes to go and post *your* amazing 11.9 @ 119 run there at dragtimes (or here)?

Or, for that matter, why would anyone take the trouble to go to a strip (which, I might add, you refuse to do now, again labeling it an "immature d!ck measuring contest), perform an amazing run, which if true would have been (and still would be) one of the fastest stock runs ever, and not even bother to save the slip from this remarkable run??

::::

You just got PWNED, dude. Hillary is under sniper fire!!

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thanks for posting all of that, i also went back thru some of his posts as well and identified his BS early on but let him spill his drivel. haha i love it. This is the attention he called for, now hes getting it.
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
thanks for posting all of that, i also went back thru some of his posts as well and identified his BS early on but let him spill his drivel. haha i love it. This is the attention he called for, now hes getting it.
It's funny, he's now set his myspace page to "private", probably because he figured out how I knew where he's from (to try and set up a race, mind you).

But he forgot to change his info. Check it out: it says that this owner of an E55, SL55, SL600, B5 S4, and A4 20T is a whopping nineteen years old!

Man, that's like two cars a year since he reached legal driving age!!! Actually, that's not all of it: when he first joined the forums, he said he didn't have a Benz, so that's basically three different AMG Benzes in less than one year!

Got his E55 in June '07, uses someone else's E63 in his avatar and gets busted, posts nothing, no comment, timeslips, nothing, about his amazing 1/4 mile run, and then four months later in October, he's already trading it in on an SL600!! (unfortunately, pics of the SL have been deleted from the thread where he announced getting it:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...highlight=pics

Anyway, who knows, maybe daddy is rich and he has owned some or all of these by age 19, point is he lied about being on the forums when he supposedly performed this 119 @ 119 1/4 mile run, which along with his then challenging people to show up and run him/now refusing to show up and run people himself doesn't lend much credibility to his other supposed "kill stories", and also proves that he is a remarkable hypocrite toboot!

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Lol... Pretty funny
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Hmmmm....very interesting ...Improviz you sly Devil!
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Wow....pretty interesting evidence...nice researching.

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Word. F430 is faster, 599 is in a different league. They trap 132mph
Are you saying a F430 traps at 132mph? Are you sure? When I got my car back from Evosport an F430 was one of the first cars I raced (in Vegas) and I beat it in 3 (20mph-about 110 mph) roll-ons in a row. The driver was so suprised and impressed he follwed me to my hotel and checked my car out for 15 minutes in the vallet line.
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Wow. Totally busted. SLK55 slower than an LS2 GTO? LMAO!!
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I would think that the F430 is trapping in the low 120's. The European models have launch control (I think they call it CST). The U.S. models don't have it...and it helps alot...especially since most of the fastest times recorded by auto journalists were done with the launch control (an 11.7 @125mph was recorded for a European model).

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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html

Not trying to bench race...but this test illustrates the difference using launch control vs without for an F430.

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I would think that the F430 is trapping in the low 120's. The European models have launch control (I think they call it CST). The U.S. models don't have it...and it helps alot...especially since most of the fastest times recorded by auto journalists were done with the launch control (an 11.7 @125mph was recorded for a European model).

Tom
That sounds more like it, my car is fast, but there is no way in hell it is going to trap at 132+, not without slicks anyway.
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That sounds more like it, my car is fast, but there is no way in hell it is going to trap at 132+, not without slicks anyway.
You're gonna need a little dose of laughing gas to hit the 130's lol.
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Yup, I was naive-- what can I say?

And I still hold to it, a 6.0 GTO can and WILL roast a SLK55, and a GTO can and WILL run a E55 door to door-- I should know, I had the E55. When I ran my brother, we went from 50-137 ish where my car shut off, the 55 was lagging due to heat soak, which at the time I had no idea off *hence* the results.



That's why I was "hating" on AMGs, I was in truth shocked my own E55 couldn't pull away from the GTO. I did get it fixed and the tables did turn, obvious from the fact I don't own a GTO or Vette.

Please proceed.

EDIT: Yup, that wasn't my E55, close friends. Because I used to wiegh in around 130, I drove it at the track for his 200 lb ***. I did acquire the E55 when I said I did. He insisted the weight difference would break 11s, and wouldn't you kow it? I know, I know-- Captain Cook with no proof right? Anyways I just never mentioned the one I ran wasn't mine. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

And there's nothing to hide on my myspace, believe that one. Add me, we can become best friends and you'll have unlimited access to my personal life.

And Improviz, priorities change man... had I still been running left and right to tracks to "prove" everything, I wouldn't have what I do now.

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Originally Posted by Exodus
Yup, I was naive-- what can I say?

And I still hold to it, a 6.0 GTO can and WILL roast a SLK55, and a GTO can and WILL run a E55 door to door-- I should know, I had the E55. When I ran my brother, we went from 50-137 ish where my car shut off, the 55 was lagging due to heat soak, which at the time I had no idea off *hence* the results.
Wait...let me get this straight a stock 6.0 GTO will roast an SLK55 ...and stay with an E55 with a Kompressor????

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