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Old 05-07-2009, 09:09 PM
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CLK vs. 997C4S vert.

i was heading to work yesterday. when i merged onto the turnpike, i saw a 997 in the distance behind me about 1/8 -1/4 mile behind. i tried to entice him but no bite.he was following for about 35 miles until we got to the toll plaza.then he decides to fly up behind me as we enter the E-Z PASS toll booth. i look back and the man driving is about 60 years of age with a suit on.as all this information is going through my peanut brain, i realize he is trying to show me something now as he floors it and cuts to the right. so with very little hesitation i nailed it and we are on! we must of went from 30-100 before he decided to shut down. he was 1 car length behind the whole time and not gaining at all.i actually started pulling on him @ about 80 just a little bit. two miles down the road i slowed. as he pulled by me on the right,he had a great big smile on his face with his thumb up. great match up.its good to see those older guys running their cars and enjoying them once and awhile. another happy customer!
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is your clk500 stock? i thought that the pp7 C4S trap between 108 and 113 depending on model.
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Poor old fella must have been confused, running with his parking brake on like that...
997 C4S vs CLS63:
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Poor old fella must have been confused, running with his parking brake on like that...
997 C4S vs CLS63:
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my car has a tune & exhaust.the c4s was a convertible. maybe his car was auto and did not get a great launch.I'm sure he would of smoked me off the line.but when it comes to roll-ons it's a different game. i pay very close attention to what cars can do on paper or in the hands of professionals on a closed coarse. I'm just telling you my run in with this particular 997. you are not telling s**t with your video. think before you respond.i read alot of the stories on here, but i would never post a respond to someones story as if it could not happen or he/she is making it up.don't be that guy!

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I think he was trying to point out that even at a roll (the video shows the cars moving) that the C4 does a pretty ecent job-and the Porsche auto...yeah...thats a nice auto...prob better then the manny tranny in the hands of 90% of drivers out there-I dont think anyone was doubting your "kill"-but I think reminding you that in most cases-the C4 will keep up, gain, and begin to walk on the clk-given enough road.
I pay attention to what cars do on paper too-and w/ a pro driver-I cant seem to get mine to either.....
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I did think before I posted. I thought "what a bunch of BS".

Your car traps at 100, maybe 1-2 mph more w/tune and exhaust.

This won't put you in the same county as a CLS63, let alone in the same ballpark. Either this was a 996, and a slow one at that, or he was incompetent, or something was wrong with his car, or this is just a fabrication at worst.
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Originally Posted by Improviz
Poor old fella must have been confused, running with his parking brake on like that...
997 C4S vs CLS63:
Fawk Impro, my beer just shot out of my mouth
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I did think before I posted. I thought "what a bunch of BS".

Your car traps at 100, maybe 1-2 mph more w/tune and exhaust.

This won't put you in the same county as a CLS63, let alone in the same ballpark. Either this was a 996, and a slow one at that, or he was incompetent, or something was wrong with his car, or this is just a fabrication at worst.
Maybe the 997, seeing as it was auto, didn't launch in the proper gear.

It would then have to play catch-up the entire time, the CLK with the tune and exhaust should do a decent job if he got a strong launch. Factor in the aerodynamics (Porsche was vert), and it seems plausible.

I know sometimes when I just jump on the throttle in my car, say at like 50mph, it drops to 3rd instead of 2nd and drastically reduces my performance. Just a thought... I highly doubt the OP is trying to impress everyone with his CLK by making up some BS story.
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Maybe the 997, seeing as it was auto, didn't launch in the proper gear.

It would then have to play catch-up the entire time, the CLK with the tune and exhaust should do a decent job if he got a strong launch. Factor in the aerodynamics (Porsche was vert), and it seems plausible.

I know sometimes when I just jump on the throttle in my car, say at like 50mph, it drops to 3rd instead of 2nd and drastically reduces my performance. Just a thought... I highly doubt the OP is trying to impress everyone with his CLK by making up some BS story.
Thats when ***** stick come's in. I remeber when I first got my CLK5 and I drove my buddy. It dropped from 5th to 3rd via kick down at around 30 and it didnt feal like anything special. I felt a bit embaressed honestly. Told him one more run, dropped down by hand to second it was a diffrent story!!
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BS, is your sarcastic response that shows your ignorance toward another person. especially some one you don't even know.second of all,i did not post this as any form of a kill, or I'm not implying that that my crappy clk is better or faster than any Pcar.if you know me at all,you would venture to guess that i would take an '87 911 over my car any day. third,it's not like i told you a story that i spanked a Ferrari or something.lastly. i have plenty of real life friends that i have meaningfully conversations with everyday.if you think that i joined this forum to make up stories about my driving to gain your approval you need to get a life.but if you enjoy bashing other people so you can feel better,god bless.
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Originally Posted by FastDonzi
BS, is your sarcastic response that shows your ignorance toward another person. especially some one you don't even know.second of all,i did not post this as any form of a kill, or I'm not implying that that my crappy clk is better or faster than any Pcar.if you know me at all,you would venture to guess that i would take an '87 911 over my car any day. third,it's not like i told you a story that i spanked a Ferrari or something.lastly. i have plenty of real life friends that i have meaningfully conversations with everyday.if you think that i joined this forum to make up stories about my driving to gain your approval you need to get a life.but if you enjoy bashing other people so you can feel better,god bless.
No one is really bashing you bro, surely you can understand where the other members are coming from. If you cared to watch that video, the CLS63 went door to door with the P-Car; to say your CLK can outrun the P-Car is... well, it's a stretch to say the least.

I've offered some sort of insight, as I do not believe your bs'ing just to amuse yourself rather your telling the truth and there were variables in play you yourself may have been unaware of.

Be safe out there.
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I'm with you brother. but is that video from a roll? it looks like its from a dig to me. if it is, how could you think that an all wheel drive 997[coupe] could not be side by side to a cls63? lets be real. an Audi S5 with a good driver can keep up with a cls63 with a bad driver from a dig to 60.
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hey,transferred. thanks.i see you have an R1. you have some great riding in so.cal. what pipes do you have on there?have you been to any of the tracks?
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I'm with you brother. but is that video from a roll? it looks like its from a dig to me. if it is, how could you think that an all wheel drive 997[coupe] could not be side by side to a cls63? lets be real. an Audi S5 with a good driver can keep up with a cls63 with a bad driver from a dig to 60.
That race was to 120, not 60. And if you look at the numbers, TRAP SPEED of the C4S is about 113, a full 13 mph faster than your car. AWD does not translate to trap speed, horsepower does. That car has 385 horsepower, a full 85 more than your car, and is about 300 pounds lighter, which is the same as it having 30 more.

Here are the numbers for a 997 C4S, as tested by C&D:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.5 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 26.2 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 4.5 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.5 sec @ 113 mph

Now, that's the new one, w/PDK. Here are the numbers for the very first iteration of the 997 C4S, from '06:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.3 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 10.2 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 28.4 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.8 sec @ 111 mph

Your car would simply not stand a snowball's chance in hell in a 30-120 race against a halfway well-driven 997 C4S, period.

Not only that, but what is really odd about your story is that you say he got a jump, hopped on it first, then you did. So now you've spotted a car which runs mid 12's, 1.5 seconds faster than your car, at 113 mph, 13 mph faster than your car, a one second spot at a minimum, and you would have us believe that he couldn't even get past you???

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.... i realize he is trying to show me something now as he floors it and cuts to the right. so with very little hesitation i nailed it and we are on! we must of went from 30-100 before he decided to shut down. he was 1 car length behind the whole time and not gaining at all.i actually started pulling on him @ about 80 just a little bit.
Sorry, but this simply doesn't wash. A 1.5 sec/13 mph difference in trap speed is gigantic, it's like someone in a GLK350 (15.0 @ 93 mph) saying they hung with a CLK55 (13.5 @ 106) from 30-100 after giving the CLK55 a jump!!

Sorry, but this is a five-BS story on a scale of one to five, unless he really did run w/the parking brake on, or did something else that was equally stupid.
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hey,transferred. thanks.i see you have an R1. you have some great riding in so.cal. what pipes do you have on there?have you been to any of the tracks?
Pipes are OEM but I'm super tempted to remove the baffles and lop 3-4" off them...sounds great

I've been round laguna seca several times in my previous r6 and "conquered" the infamous corkscrew...i'm far from an expert on bikes and am still getting used to the r1 which I've still not taken to the track,, but i did test the top speed very late one night...

I'm assuming you're much more experienced?

As regards posters like Improviz they're good, knowledgeable guys and don't mean any offense...it's just a load of BS'ers come through here...doesn't seem to me like you are one at all...


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you are too into putting car&driver test data on the street ,champ. you my man are a looser.how the hell do you know how much power my car has anyway? i'll give an A for trying to have people skills though. NOT. i just watched a youtube video of a CLS63 pull a 13.17 @ 107 at the track.does that mean that car & driver is wrong.
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That race was to 120, not 60. And if you look at the numbers, TRAP SPEED of the C4S is about 113, a full 13 mph faster than your car. AWD does not translate to trap speed, horsepower does. That car has 385 horsepower, a full 85 more than your car, s:
I think the S versions were 355hp until 2009....
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thank you,transferred. and this car was convertible, witch is about 2/10ths slower.your boy improviz doesn't seem to know much.he knows alot about though. what a tool.
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like i said before. no need for me to fabricate stories. thats not my style. nice chatting with you guys.but i need to prep my boat for some fun on the lake. later
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thank you,transferred. and this car was convertible, witch is about 2/10ths slower.your boy improviz doesn't seem to know much.he knows alot about though. what a tool.
I've forgotten more about cars than you know, moron....and you're the tool for trying to convince people you could spot a car that's far faster than your CLK, but somehow, miraculously, he couldn't manage to pull you. And oh, wow, the ragtop is two tenths slower than the coupe? Great, now all you have to do is make up the other 12 tenths and you might tie him in your 14 second CLK500 five speed. Idiot....

Hell, I assraped CLK500s in my old 55, in my new one it would be a slaughter.

Your car is in the 350Z range, not the C4S range. You should go to bed, and dream some more, because that's all this is, a wet dream.

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you are too into putting car&driver test data on the street ,champ. you my man are a looser.how the hell do you know how much power my car has anyway? i'll give an A for trying to have people skills though. NOT. i just watched a youtube video of a CLS63 pull a 13.17 @ 107 at the track.does that mean that car & driver is wrong.
Got the linkie for that vid there, ace? I'd like to check it out.
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just go to youtube and look. its there. for everyone to see.you are so cool with your big bad *** 55.can i be your friend? you want to feel real thrills, buy a bike and hit the track. then you can be on my level.or maybe you don't posses those skills.


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