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Old 08-19-2004, 05:51 PM
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What's faster Bmw 330 or S430??

Spec wise and who would win??
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How bout top speed freeway run??
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Originally Posted by dtxmob
How bout top speed freeway run??
430 or tie because the S-class is very heavy compare to the 3200lb 330

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0-60, I would say 330. cause my bro 330xi(auto tranny, blown my C320 badly(sold), 0-60), Imagine if it was 330i, lighter. and I think, s430 is about the same or slower compare to the C320.
On freeway, probably the 430 with v8 still can keep up maybe faster. but, 0-60mph? especially the old with 5 speed auto tranny, nope. If the 7speed G-tronic, I don't know, I have not try that one.
Just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by DeeGuy
0-60, I would say 330. cause my bro 330xi(auto tranny, blown my C320 badly(sold), 0-60), Imagine if it was 330i, lighter. and I think, s430 is about the same or slower compare to the C320.
On freeway, probably the 430 with v8 still can keep up maybe faster. but, 0-60mph? especially the old with 5 speed auto tranny, nope. If the 7speed G-tronic, I don't know, I have not try that one.
Just my opinion.
I think the S430 can get 0-60 in about 6.6 sec.

A C320 is about 7 sec.

I think a BMW 330 6 speed with a pro driver is something like 6.5, so with the average driver the Benz gets the edge (if my times are right).

One thing to note, the Benz will be smooth and quiet, the BMW will be noisy with interior rattles, lol.
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Originally Posted by C280Sportster
I think the S430 can get 0-60 in about 6.6 sec.

A C320 is about 7 sec.

I think a BMW 330 6 speed with a pro driver is something like 6.5, so with the average driver the Benz gets the edge (if my times are right).

One thing to note, the Benz will be smooth and quiet, the BMW will be noisy with interior rattles, lol.
don't forget the 330 Performance pkg squeez under 6 seconds.
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don't forget the 330 Performance pkg squeez under 6 seconds.
Mine is a 2000 S430! Got the AMG package on it though!
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Originally Posted by dtxmob
Mine is a 2000 S430! Got the AMG package on it though!
the sport pkg is basically a appearance which includes the bodykit and the rims.
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Thats what I was about to say.
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Originally Posted by dtxmob
Mine is a 2000 S430! Got the AMG package on it though!
Sorry you ........S430 is a nice car, just because you got AMG body kits it doesn't mean it faster....
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Originally Posted by FrankW
don't forget the 330 Performance pkg squeez under 6 seconds.
From:

http://www.new-cars.com/2003/2003-bmw-330.html


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"The 2003 BMW 330 line up has its real distinction from the 325 line up under the hood. A powerful 3.0-liter, it has ample power for confident and aggressive drivers who want the authority to get into and out of potential scrapes. Highway merging is no problem on these 330 models that can do 0-60 mph in 6.9 seconds. The powerful V6 engine produces 225 hp at 5900 rpm and 214 lb-ft of torque at 3500. It can be coupled with either a 5-speed manual or automatic transmissions, which get about 18/26 mpg."

(good power from a 3.0 liter!)

Well above says 6.9, even I think that's too high.


http://www.supercars.net/garages/Moonracer/53v2.html

says 6.2 secs. not bad!


If a pro driver is getting 0-60 in 6 secs. (or 6.2) in a 330, I'd say the average joe is 6.5 secs.

*****, lets just look at the HP to weight (althought we know BMW likes to gear their cars for 0-60, we should look at the 1/4 mile), how much more power does Performance pkg add (plus a 6 speed tranny I'm sure) and how much does it weigh?

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Originally Posted by C280Sportster
From:

http://www.new-cars.com/2003/2003-bmw-330.html


Performance

"The 2003 BMW 330 line up has its real distinction from the 325 line up under the hood. A powerful 3.0-liter, it has ample power for confident and aggressive drivers who want the authority to get into and out of potential scrapes. Highway merging is no problem on these 330 models that can do 0-60 mph in 6.9 seconds. The powerful V6 engine produces 225 hp at 5900 rpm and 214 lb-ft of torque at 3500. It can be coupled with either a 5-speed manual or automatic transmissions, which get about 18/26 mpg."

(good power from a 3.0 liter!)

Well above says 6.9, even I think that's too high.


http://www.supercars.net/garages/Moonracer/53v2.html

says 6.2 secs. not bad!


If a pro driver is getting 0-60 in 6 secs. (or 6.2) in a 330, I'd say the average joe is 6.5 secs.

*****, lets just look at the HP to weight (althought we know BMW likes to gear their cars for 0-60, we should look at the 1/4 mile), how much more power does Performance pkg add (plus a 6 speed tranny I'm sure) and how much does it weigh?
check on BMWusa.com I forgot the exact, but a lot has been changed including the gearbox ratio etc.
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hmm was i dreaming or was it real? i raced a 330 with my 500 SE euro benz and beat him. lol it probably wasent fair since the road had some traffic and i took shoulder haha but he followd rite behind. The 330 didnt seem thatttt fast, i was shocked in my opinion it was pretty slow.
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Originally Posted by FrankW
the sport pkg is basically a appearance which includes the bodykit and the rims.
Wouldn't that actually make his car slower by adding weight?
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Originally Posted by C280Sportster
One thing to note, the Benz will be smooth and quiet, the BMW will be noisy with interior rattles, lol.
Not necessarily. My 330i rattles less than my good friend's 2001 S430, and most of my MB-owning friends and associates are consistantlly shocked at how stable and quiet my car is, because of the stereotype quoted above.
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Originally Posted by Maestro
Not necessarily. My 330i rattles less than my good friend's 2001 S430, and most of my MB-owning friends and associates are consistantlly shocked at how stable and quiet my car is, because of the stereotype quoted above.
You've got a good car, every 3 series BMW over 5 years old I've been in has rattles and other strange noises. I think the first year (2001) of the new S class had tons of problems also.

Maybe you've got very nice roads where you live, over here (in DC), watch out! Pothole city!
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Originally Posted by C280Sportster
You've got a good car, every 3 series BMW over 5 years old I've been in has rattles and other strange noises. I think the first year (2001) of the new S class had tons of problems also.

Maybe you've got very nice roads where you live, over here (in DC), watch out! Pothole city!

what he said...

take a ride in my bro's 97 bought new 528i and you'll see what ppl are talking about.
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S430 is faster. I'm in SFBA, does somebody want a race? I borrowed my friend's '03 330. I wasn't excited neither performance, neither quality of ride. I like 330 look, but not driving.
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i've recently been in 4 or 5 e36's 328i 94-95 models while looking for a car for a friend and there weren't any rattles what so ever. It depends on how well the car is looked after in many cases and mileage.

As for the original posts

s430 205kw 1855kg = 9.05kg/kw 0-100km/h = 7.9 1/4mi = 15.8
330ci 170kw 1490kg = 8.76kg/kw 0-100km/h = 6.6 1/4mi = 14.8

taken from wheels magazine

looking at pure numbers the 330ci is likely swifter with a manual atleast. With an auto pretty close i would think.
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My '01 Mustang GT beat the pants off my friend's '01 S430. Philadelphia to Penn State - highway; mountain and 0-60 .
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Originally Posted by dtxmob
Spec wise and who would win??
I smoked a 330i in my 98 Lexus GS400 it has 100,000 miles with intake and exhaust. I let the 330i get his clutch out and get it floored he got out 1/2 car on me. Then I floor the GS pulled by him in 2nd and 3rd was in front by 1 and then 4th by 3 cars. GS400 still runs hard! I may add NOS or Supercharger. I already have a Pink Dragon Torque converter in Garage from Persion Engineering. I will get on this week and add NOS this week as well. I have had car sence new. I have a 04 E55 and 04 Gallardo now but the GS400 is my 4 th car and now it is my tuner toy.
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330. both on turns and straights. especially a 330i performance package with 235 hp

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