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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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F/R brake job for $850.00, good deal?

I posted early where I gotten a quote from the dealer for F/R pads, sensors and rotors replacement for parts only at $1100.00
I have done some research and seem to me OEM on ML500 is as good an any aftermarket replacement. So, I call around and gotten a quote from a local service shop for all OEM parts installed at $850.00 Is it a good deal?
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Do you have a breakdown of parts v. labor?

FYI....The local MB Service center (non-dealer) quoted me $400 for pads ($200 parts, $200 labor). I am still thinking this is something I will do myself.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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Do you have a breakdown of parts v. labor?

FYI....The local MB Service center (non-dealer) quoted me $400 for pads ($200 parts, $200 labor). I am still thinking this is something I will do myself.
I don't have the break down of parts and labor but I know what parts are included in the deal. 4 OEM pads front & rear, 4 OEM rotors and 4 OEM sensors.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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I am guessing by OEM you are not referring to Genuine MB parts, right? If that is the case then I find it quite high (the quote). OEM parts should run you in the neighborhood of $300-400 depending on the vendor. I would say that a quote with OEM parts and labor of 3-4 hours tops should run in the $650-700 range.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 02:05 PM
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I am guessing by OEM you are not referring to Genuine MB parts, right? If that is the case then I find it quite high (the quote). OEM parts should run you in the neighborhood of $300-400 depending on the vendor. I would say that a quote with OEM parts and labor of 3-4 hours tops should run in the $650-700 range.
LVDell,
Yes, I am refering to Genuine MB parts. OEM = Original Equipment by Manufacturer. I think that's the term.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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Genuine MB parts and OEM are not the same thing. Genuine MBparts are the OEM parts with MB packaging that has their "stamp of approval" on it. You are paying the dealer for that. You can buy OEM parts from many vendors that come in the OEM (the manufacturer) packaging and you can buy that same part from the dealer but with a MB logo on it and a MB packaging. This is why I am asking since there is a considerable price differnce. If the parts used are MB stamped and MB pakcaged then your estimate is fine. If not then you are probably paying too much.

FYI...there is not a "by" in OEM. I think you are confusing MB as the manufacturer as opposed to the actual manufacturer of the product.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Genuine MB parts and OEM are not the same thing. Genuine MBparts are the OEM parts with MB packaging that has their "stamp of approval" on it. You are paying the dealer for that. You can buy OEM parts from many vendors that come in the OEM (the manufacturer) packaging and you can buy that same part from the dealer but with a MB logo on it and a MB packaging. This is why I am asking since there is a considerable price differnce. If the parts used are MB stamped and MB pakcaged then your estimate is fine. If not then you are probably paying too much.

FYI...there is not a "by" in OEM. I think you are confusing MB as the manufacturer as opposed to the actual manufacturer of the product.

I'm all confused now. Sound like they are the same part just packaging in different ways. I know the place I got quote from usually go thru actual dealership with special mechanic/local discount for Genuine part when customer ask for original parts otherwise he'll get aftermarket.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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Genuine MB=OEM packaged with MB part stamp logo etc and in MB packaging

OEM=same part but directly from the manufacturer (or purchased form a vendor) wihtout the MB stuff (stamp, part number, packaging, etc.)

Aftermarket=product that is not MB stamped or OEM but still adheres to the specifications of the OEM stuff so that it it "comparable" and can be used.

For example, I can buy brake pads for my Porsche from the dealer for about $200 (Genuine part) or from Textar (same pad but labeled as Textar which is OEM) or I can buy a Pagid pad that is aftermarket. All 3 work fine but the price is vastly different between them.

Hope this makes more sense.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LVDell
Genuine MB=OEM packaged with MB part stamp logo etc and in MB packaging

OEM=same part but directly from the manufacturer (or purchased form a vendor) wihtout the MB stuff (stamp, part number, packaging, etc.)

Aftermarket=product that is not MB stamped or OEM but still adheres to the specifications of the OEM stuff so that it it "comparable" and can be used.

For example, I can buy brake pads for my Porsche from the dealer for about $200 (Genuine part) or from Textar (same pad but labeled as Textar which is OEM) or I can buy a Pagid pad that is aftermarket. All 3 work fine but the price is vastly different between them.

Hope this makes more sense.

Now I understand completely. My parts quoted are Genuine MB parts. I may try OEM for cost saving now, haha. I try to get another quote.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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That's wise. Keep us posted.

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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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Bring them to Long Island I will do it for 300$

Mainly stating, i have recently changed my rears and front. I have ordered them from http://www.autopartmart.com for $48 each pad. All it takes is less than a 3rd grade education and about 40 minutes to do both , get a better jack than the OEM one, bottle jack at pepboys 19.99, remove wheel, 14mm socket remove the screw in back, slide out pads, slide in new one and replace. For $850, i will fly out to where u are and do them for you . All i am saying is that the MB is just like any other car when it comes to brakes, it is a very simple process that the dealers/mechanic completely rip off consumers for, email me if you need step by step instructions, or to give your address so that i can book a flight. .
just trying to knock some sense into you.
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Old Nov 17, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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All it takes is less than a 3rd grade education and about 40 minutes to do both , get a better jack than the OEM one, bottle jack at pepboys 19.99, remove wheel, 14mm socket remove the screw in back, slide out pads, slide in new one and replace. All i am saying is that the MB is just like any other car when it comes to brakes, it is a very simple process that the dealers/mechanic completely rip off consumers for, email me if you need step by step instructions, or to give your address so that i can book a flight. .
Its nice to know that you think so highly of my profession. We are paid to perform a service, plain and simple. You are given a choice as to have that service performed or not. Nobody is being ripped off, or forced to do anything they don't want to. Not everyone is comfortable working on their own cars, just as I am not comfortable performing surgery. I think $10,000 is a complete rip off for a simple medical procedure, but I sure as hell am not gonna try to do it myself.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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didnt mean to offend anyone but...

I respect the fact that technicians are skilled in the trade of fixing cars and diagnosing problems. I also respect clothing designers and retails stores, but i still consider a marked up $79.99 designer shirt that cost less than $3 to make a ripoff. In this day in age, the luxury of someone else doing something for you is costly. I am just giving hands on advice to another individual who can save themselves a lot of money. Business is business, i pay for an electric bill since i am not in the mood to run on a mouse wheel to generate power for my house. Am i paying to much, yes, but the luxury of effortlessly turning on a light switch compared to exhausing myself is worth it for me. I save myself hundreds of dollars per year fixing my car. Here in NY, labor is $89.99 per hour, compared to Mass. $35 per hour. In mass i take to mechanics and skilled people like yourself, in NY what a rip off. See my point, any ways, sorry to take business away from you but an educated consumer is a business's worst nightmare. Anyways this forum is not designed for argueing or to fight battles, just for information, and that is what i am giving. Once again no offense and lets keep this forum clean of personals.
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