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In other words, about a year and a half (or more) as that is how long any previous owner(s) have to file seeing as the payout is dependent on whether a previous owner also files for the diminished value portion. That is assuming that the settlement is actually approved by then.
I had a Soot sensor replaced by an indy shop and paid out of pocket. It was done beyond the 192,000km emissions warranty period, but before I was able to book for the new device to be installed. Am I able to get the soot sensor replacement cost reimbursed by Mercedes?
I work for mercedes-benz dealer in canada.
no refund will be done for part who was replaced before. example : customer came in october 2021 for his ML350 2012. His exhaust DPF was replace at his cost. (pay around 4000$ parts and labor) .
SAB bluetec settlement open in 2022. We will replace his DPF for a new one again, but customer can't be refund for his old replacement cost .
In other words, about a year and a half (or more) as that is how long any previous owner(s) have to file seeing as the payout is dependent on whether a previous owner also files for the diminished value portion. That is assuming that the settlement is actually approved by then.
Settlement is approved, original owners had to file by March 23, 2022, so I would suspect probably a few weeks to months if you have got the field measure done already. Hope it's not a year and a half, that would totally suck.
Very interesting and happy that the whole process has started. Quick question for people with full deletes (EGR, DEF/Adblue), DPF and swirl flaps), are you going to go with the AEM? If so, I supposed you'll have to reinstall the DPF before bringing it in? My guess is that they won't proceed with the AEM if the DPF is missing... and what about the ECU? If a tune is installed, is the dealership going to refuse the AEM? Can they simply overwrite the tune on the ECU?
First step in dealer process for Bluetec Settlement. If you have a DPF/SCR delete , they stop the process and give u back the key , because the car isnt in the originale form. DPF/SCR and both NOX sensor and SOOT sensor need to be there for the repairs.
IF u only have a tune. Repairs will be done, but after all the components are install, dealer will do a 30min ecu's coding/update. so you will lost you Tune data.
This is my 2 cents, but when the Bluetec settlement ServiceAction is done. you get a extra warranty of 4years/77 0000km extra on many things :
-all adblue components (all heating elements,pump , injectors) EXCEPT THE ADBLUE PRESSURE LINE (i know its stupid)
-all exhaust components ( nox, soot, temperature system)
-EGR systems (valve, duct, cooler, temperature sensor)
-Intake manifold (swirl flap and motor)
- TIMING CHAIN. (if it noisy at start up, go replaced it under warranty)
-turbocharged
-PCV
-MAF sensor
-Engine heads (valve train, ect)
-Injectors
Settlement is approved, original owners had to file by March 23, 2022, so I would suspect probably a few weeks to months if you have got the field measure done already. Hope it's not a year and a half, that would totally suck.
Indeed - you are correct on both counts.
If you are a former owner, it certainly may take that long simply because the current owners have until May 1, 2023 to complete the AEM and file. As for the current owners, parts are still scarce and not even yet available for some model years. I know people in the US that have been waiting for about a year now since they filed, and we started considerably later on this side of the border. The law firms and settlement administrators are not exactly expedient... I'd be quite surprised if any of us see anything before the end of the year.
If you are a former owner, it certainly may take that long simply because the current owners have until May 1, 2023 to complete the AEM and file. As for the current owners, parts are still scarce and not even yet available for some model years. I know people in the US that have been waiting for about a year now since they filed, and we started considerably later on this side of the border. The law firms and settlement administrators are not exactly expedient... I'd be quite surprised if any of us see anything before the end of the year.
Good luck on getting them done by May 1. My appointment, made two weeks ago when parts were first available for MLs, is April 20th.
no refund will be done for part who was replaced before. example : customer came in october 2021 for his ML350 2012. His exhaust DPF was replace at his cost. (pay around 4000$ parts and labor) .
SAB bluetec settlement open in 2022. We will replace his DPF for a new one again, but customer can't be refund for his old replacement cost .
That's to be expected but then the owner should ask for all removed parts to be returned to them to keep for future or to sell to try recoup their original cost outlay. Since he/she paid for them out of their own pocket MB cannot refuse this request.
That's to be expected but then the owner should ask for all removed parts to be returned to them to keep for future or to sell to try recoup their original cost outlay. Since he/she paid for them out of their own pocket MB cannot refuse this request.
The removed parts are NOT COMPLIANT with the AEM retrofit, which is exactly why they are being replaced in the first place with upgraded parts. If they gave you back your old DPF and you were to put it in a car, that car would no longer meet emission regulations which is what the recall is all about. They are legally not allowed to give it back to you or put it in service in any other car ever again.
Field measure installed on my 2015 ML in one day. Car definitely shifts better (esp. when cold) and seems a bit more responsive than before, although I suspect that's due to the ECU & TCU previously adapting to a "grandma driving style" over the winter months which has now been reset. Cranking duration from a cold start after being parked overnight before it fires up is a couple of tenths of a second longer than before as has been previously reported in various USA AEM threads, but certainly nothing that could be characterized as long or excessive, and the car idles - again only after a cold start - a few hundred RPM higher (about 1200 instead of 900) before it drops down to the usual 650 RPM after a few minutes of driving. No noticeable change in fuel consumption, no noticeable change in engine coolant temperature and no other noticeable differences whatsoever. I suspect it may use up 5% more DEF fluid in the winter months, but I am reasonably certain I can afford the extra ~$6 per year.
2013 ML350 Bluetec, 1966 Ford Mustang Convertible (sold)
Originally Posted by Diabolis
Field measure installed on my 2015 ML in one day. Car definitely shifts better (esp. when cold) and seems a bit more responsive than before, although I suspect that's due to the ECU & TCU previously adapting to a "grandma driving style" over the winter months which has now been reset. Cranking duration from a cold start after being parked overnight before it fires up is a couple of tenths of a second longer than before as has been previously reported in various USA AEM threads, but certainly nothing that could be characterized as long or excessive, and the car idles - again only after a cold start - a few hundred RPM higher (about 1200 instead of 900) before it drops down to the usual 650 RPM after a few minutes of driving. No noticeable change in fuel consumption, no noticeable change in engine coolant temperature and no other noticeable differences whatsoever. I suspect it may use up 5% more DEF fluid in the winter months, but I am reasonably certain I can afford the extra ~$6 per year.
Thanks for the update! Did you receive a letter by mail saying you could call a dealer and schedule your appointment? I have a 2013 ML350 at 250 000 km and I didn't receive anything yet...
Thanks for the update! Did you receive a letter by mail saying you could call a dealer and schedule your appointment? I have a 2013 ML350 at 250 000 km and I didn't receive anything yet...
Yes - IIRC I got it in early March. However, I know the 2012s and 2013s haven't been called in yet because they apparently require considerably more work and changed parts, and there's still one part that Merc does not have enough of for those (I think new ECUs and/or TCUs). The plastic engine cover didn't even come off on mine - all changes were on the exhaust side way down from the turbo and done from the bottom of the car. The 2012s and 2013s are getting more new parts and there's a considerable amount of extra work that has to be done from the top side of the engine. My good friend who works directly for Daimler and was driving one of the test mules for 15,000 kms has a 2013 and is also waiting.
Cranking duration from a cold start after being parked overnight before it fires up is a couple of tenths of a second longer than before as has been previously reported in various USA AEM threads, but certainly nothing that could be characterized as long or excessive, and the car idles - again only after a cold start - a few hundred RPM higher (about 1200 instead of 900) before it drops down to the usual 650 RPM after a few minutes of driving.
Glad to see someone else noticed the cranking time difference, mine used to start on almost 1 crank. After the dealer work it takes about 2-3 cranks to fire after sitting overnight, once it warms up it's pretty much back to normal. It behaves this way even after replacing the glow plug controller, which I believe was faulty anyway because the engine was having a really difficult time starting even in warm weather. Anyone know how common it is for the controller to be replaced? Mine is a 2014 with 218k KM
Glad to see someone else noticed the cranking time difference, mine used to start on almost 1 crank. After the dealer work it takes about 2-3 cranks to fire after sitting overnight, once it warms up it's pretty much back to normal. It behaves this way even after replacing the glow plug controller, which I believe was faulty anyway because the engine was having a really difficult time starting even in warm weather. Anyone know how common it is for the controller to be replaced? Mine is a 2014 with 218k KM
Aha! I recently noticed cranking time being longer than normal. I'd say about 1/2 second longer approx when cold.
Thought something was starting to go wrong with my GL, but now that I think about it, it started right when I got it back from the Field Measure installation.
Sounds like they tried to improve emissions by making the fuel pump inject fuel once the engine is already cranking for a second, rather than starting it at the same time it cranks.
No changes in my GL with respect to fuel economy, performance, or anything else. Dealer parts guy I know told me yesterday that a few people still haven't had it done because they are doing their "research" before they book an appointment. He implied that some people think it will decrease fuel economy or make the truck worse.
His exact comment at the end was "why wouldn't you have it done? You get all new parts AND a warranty too. And the warranty covers other stuff that fails like timing chains and DEF pumps". Remember this is the parts manager and he knows what parts he sells a LOT of for specific models.... So him saying timing chains or DEF pumps being under warranty is based on # of those parts he sells every day.
If you haven't had it done, go get it done now! The settlement cheque is almost just icing on the cake on top of the free parts and free warranty!
Thanks for the feedback on post implemtation direveability etc. Mine ('15 GL) went under the knife today so hopefully I will have the same experience as you.
Picked my car up this afternoon and so far so good. No noticeable difference even on start up although admittedly I haven't done a true cold start yet.
The one thing that I'd did find quite odd is that there is now a second OBD connector hanging down by the original one (see pic below). Does anyone else have one of these? And secondly, what's the purpose of the 2nd one?
Indeed - and AFAIK that cover does not even come off during the field measure installation unless yours falls into the category that gets a new instrument cluster as part of the field measure installation. Either way, that connector is not supposed to be there.
P.S. Just re-read your post... not on a '15 so it may have been from a previous job (or possibly if they ran into some issues), but either way , it is not supposed to be there. Someone was in a hurry.
Last edited by Diabolis; Apr 11, 2022 at 10:09 AM.
That's what I thought too. They told me to bring it back and they'll fix it so I'll see what they say. I'm 100% sure it wasn't like that when I dropped it off.
Not here. Although my $tealership did want to chrge me $500 for replaing a leaking fule filter which isn't really leaking, it might be sweating a tiny little bit.
It's leaking from two spots about 18 inches apart around mid engine area. I'm taking it to my shop to assess before dealership...but I really do suspect it was the installation of the field measure unit by the dealership.
Originally Posted by MartinC2S
Not here. Although my $tealership did want to chrge me $500 for replaing a leaking fule filter which isn't really leaking, it might be sweating a tiny little bit.
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