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mercedes is now saying that any car with a 112 or 113 engine, or any engine after that, that you are supposed to you pentosin in the p/s except for 170' and 163's. if you have any of those cars, use regular mb p/s fluid.
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any Dextron III ATF will do...
My MY02 service products manual states that you can use either the
MB power steering fluid (PN 000-989-88-03) or an approved Dextron III ATF. The list of approved Dextron III ATF is as follows:
MB power steering fluid (PN 000-989-88-03) or an approved Dextron III ATF. The list of approved Dextron III ATF is as follows:
- Castrol Dextron-III/Mercon ATF F-30341
- Castrol Transmax M-22257/22096
- Chevron ATF Dextron III F-30108/30159
- Citgo Multi-Purpose ATF D-21571
- Exxon Superflo ATF Dextron III F-30111
- Havoline ATF Mrcon/Dextron-III F-30321
- Texaco ATF Mercon/Dextron-III F-30321
- Penzoil ATF D-22413/F-30110
- Quaker State Dextron-III/Mercon F30161
- Sunoco ATF Dextron/Mercon F-30176
- Unocal Multi-Purpose ATF D-22413/22431
- Valvoline ATF Type D
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If a search returns this information, I would post a new thread too. What good is this information? There are no model details, 2002? Obviously, MB has updated some things over the last 5 years.
The MB bulletin of 2006 states quite clearly that not just any Dextron III ATF will do.
The MB bulletin of 2006 states quite clearly that not just any Dextron III ATF will do.
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Order No.: P-B-46.00/44
Group: 46
Subject: 171,203,209,211,215,219,220,221, and 230 Power Steering Fluid-Pentosin CHF 11S
"All of the above mentioned model vehicles must use power steering fluid Pentosin CHF 11S (MB part no. BQ 1320001.
Note: Model 210 which is equiped with rack-and-pinion steering gear and older models equipped with re-circulating ball steering box (e.g., 124,129,140,170,202,and 208) must use MB power steering fluid part no. BQ 1460001 or approved Dexron III ATF."
Order No.: P-B-46.00/44
Group: 46
Subject: 171,203,209,211,215,219,220,221, and 230 Power Steering Fluid-Pentosin CHF 11S
"All of the above mentioned model vehicles must use power steering fluid Pentosin CHF 11S (MB part no. BQ 1320001.
Note: Model 210 which is equiped with rack-and-pinion steering gear and older models equipped with re-circulating ball steering box (e.g., 124,129,140,170,202,and 208) must use MB power steering fluid part no. BQ 1460001 or approved Dexron III ATF."
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Order No.: P-B-46.00/44
Group: 46
Subject: 171,203,209,211,215,219,220,221, and 230 Power Steering Fluid-Pentosin CHF 11S
"All of the above mentioned model vehicles must use power steering fluid Pentosin CHF 11S (MB part no. BQ 1320001.
Note: Model 210 which is equiped with rack-and-pinion steering gear and older models equipped with re-circulating ball steering box (e.g., 124,129,140,170,202,and 208) must use MB power steering fluid part no. BQ 1460001 or approved Dexron III ATF."
Order No.: P-B-46.00/44
Group: 46
Subject: 171,203,209,211,215,219,220,221, and 230 Power Steering Fluid-Pentosin CHF 11S
"All of the above mentioned model vehicles must use power steering fluid Pentosin CHF 11S (MB part no. BQ 1320001.
Note: Model 210 which is equiped with rack-and-pinion steering gear and older models equipped with re-circulating ball steering box (e.g., 124,129,140,170,202,and 208) must use MB power steering fluid part no. BQ 1460001 or approved Dexron III ATF."
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I didn't see the 126's mentioned.
I always use MB fluids, even when I don't care to pay for them, Am I also waisting dollars?
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I always use MB fluids, even when I don't care to pay for them, Am I also waisting dollars?
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I think the 126 would be in the group needing BQ 14600001, as it is a re-circulating ball steering box, but I'm not sure. I don't think it's a waste of dollars, it can be bit more, but the alternative expense is much greater.
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It is a very very bad idea to mix Pentosin (MB ATF fluid) with Dexron ATF.
These two are incompatible and will kill the PS pump.
Now, while Daimler-Chrysler were together they developed ATF+4, which I believe was used as PSF on both brands....so it's important to check by the chassis.
The older Euro cars, pre 1996, used Dexron III. Dex 6 or ATF+4 is the newer replacement....some might want Mobil 1 ATF but not much to be gained over the other 2 synth spec OEM ATFs.
Let me know if anyone has more specifics on year and model range.
These two are incompatible and will kill the PS pump.
Now, while Daimler-Chrysler were together they developed ATF+4, which I believe was used as PSF on both brands....so it's important to check by the chassis.
The older Euro cars, pre 1996, used Dexron III. Dex 6 or ATF+4 is the newer replacement....some might want Mobil 1 ATF but not much to be gained over the other 2 synth spec OEM ATFs.
Let me know if anyone has more specifics on year and model range.
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If a search returns this information, I would post a new thread too. What good is this information? There are no model details, 2002? Obviously, MB has updated some things over the last 5 years.
The MB bulletin of 2006 states quite clearly that not just any Dextron III ATF will do.
The MB bulletin of 2006 states quite clearly that not just any Dextron III ATF will do.
