Would a ML500 K & N cold air intake fit a ML55? Is it worth it? Possible reprocussions?

The member Advans has a K&N cold air intake installed on his ML500, with very good results. Im wondering If I can get the same from my ML55. If not that, then what about the normal 'drop in' K&N Filter?

 

im going to be ordering the Green filter from Euroteck, sooner then later, but my purchasing those brabus wheels might interfere, lol

 

I wouldn't fool with an intake without considering a fuel management replacement. It's usually not worth it and power loss is as likely as a gain with just intake swap.

 

I have replaced my stock restrictor box and replaced it with a high flow unit tube cone mounting bracket. I have had my air intake on my truck for about year or more. And I love it! It gives much more power which is very noticeable and it sounds great! A good swooshing sound even at highway speeds. I replaced my entire system. Not just the filter but I have also heard good things about those as well. Not only has it increased my HP but also the miles I get per gallon and miles I get from my entire tank. The only foreseeable downsides: noise. That’s it! That’s all! The original reason I switched was because I wanted more power but now I am glad I did because the less I step on the gas meaning not cranking up the revs it saves me huge amounts of gas. I get an average on my gauge saying 20-22 Mpg. Pretty good. City it still much lower 16-17 mpg. Stepping on it I get a whopping 8 mpg!!! As far as hurting my engine I doubt it. Good fun,yes. Better gas mileage, yes!

 

=O where did you buy the kit and for how much?
Im looking all over for aftermarket ML55 parts, it is hard =/

 

I have gone through one intake system which I bought from eBay it was terrible it cost like 150.00 I had it installed by some guys because they had to fabricate a mounting bracket for it. The problem was with the cone which wasn’t really letting more air in it was kind of a funny shape semi-conical design with all this plastic and metal it came with a heat shield which later I took off because it was just a cheap piece of aluminum. The worst part was it was held to together buy screws. Terrible!!!. One of the screws fell out some how and it actually had opened up a seam between the housing and filter could have been a disaster if a little rock came up who knows!!! I throw it out and put my stock filter in for awhile. Not planning on doing anything again for a little bit I happened to be at Circuit City buying GT4 for play station (greatest game) and they were having a garage sale of all kinda of stuff speakers, car alarms and amps. On the table was this huge air intake system with long tube and filter. It was used strictly for display purposes it was new never installed universal air filter and I asked one of the guys how much it was and he asked me well how much do want to pay for it and I said five bucks and said ok!!! I couldn’t believe it this thing new had to be 200-300 bucks. I played around with mean and cut it down to size I have no heat shield. I did fabricate an air duct coming from the front grill though which I guess helps.

What I recommend you do is just buy the K&N setup that’s probably the best. You can actually buy any setup as long as its made for a Mercedes it doesn’t have to be model specific but choose wisely. Have someone make a bracket unless you have then nerve and feel like drillin it yourself. And maybe find someone skilled enough to make a custom in closer. That’s your best bet. I think all the ML’s K&N filters fit on all models 163 even the 55. Mine fits prefect now and it’s made by Reactive.

 

can you post some pictures of your intake? I am interested in this DIY intake

 

Indeed, please post pics!!

 

Hey I'll let you guys see it on saturday.

 

Yep def.!!!

 

WTF? :
Only time you need more fuel or better management of fuel is when you go forced induction.....ie......turbo or supercharger! Your PCM (computer) adapts to your driving style,outside temp,type of fuel....etc. Reprograming your PCM will gain some HP........but does not have to be done once you change your intake.........your PCM will adapt.(make sense?) Any extra and/or cooler air entering your engine will not hurt.....just help! Please refer to the E55 forums............many posts are there covering your questions and concerns.The only problem is...........AMG designed a wicked intake already..........most AMG owners went heat shield wrapped intakes with Green Filters............oh.......by the way...........ribs inside your airbox where put in to make the box strong...........some people remove those ribs for better airflow.Your call.

Your engine is a vacuum..........the more air you get in and out of your engine.....the more power you will gain. PERIOD

 

I've seen dynos that say otherwise, especially with OBDII computers. Adding an intake that generates more air does not guarantee equal or better performance. Sometimes you will get better performance, like five to ten whp if you're extremely lucky.

Your computer will certainly adjust as best it can but that doesn't mean it will be able to optimize the air/fuel spark curve to as good or better than stock.

Heat shield and colder air is a totally different story. If you can cool the air then by all means that is only a help! However, just b/c you have a heat shield and larger airflow does NOT guarantee better performance. Do some research and look at empirical data and you'll see the truth.

 

What? DO THE RESEARCH? Man......................the research has been done................
better flow of colder air helps.........pal.............does not hurt in any freaking way.Gain 5-10 hp? Maybe.......that would probably be the most on a already effective/efficent AMG intake.

YOUR post states he would LOSE HP. YOU NEED TO SEE THE TRUTH.

 

Let's try this again in Engrish. A different air intake that increases airflow does not NECESSARILY mean more horsepower and/or torque. That is my sole point. I've seen both gains and losses for a variety of applications.

Maybe all you have seen is gains. And maybe you're talking about a dyno proven air intake specifically for the ML55. If so, great! Post up some dynos if you got em.

 

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Good point though..........a "high flow" intake that consists of an open cone air filter sucking in hot engine air will at times (depending on underhood temp) will decrease HP. You might of seen some cases.......on different cars.......were INCREASED FLOW OF COLD AIR my take away HP. NOT CALLING YOU A LIAR.....................LIAR ( sorry...typo!)

Just kidding..........really.........just kidding :p

 

jeez guys relax... he is right, on some cars adding an intake alone will lose power, mainly this is forced induction cars where without adding the propper exhuast and heat shielding, does nothing but pull in hot air. Now on the other hand these are ML55s and while they have the 5.5l AMG engine in them, they are not all that complicated as it goes...

AMG55 has stated he has seen an increase in power and after seing the set up he has have decided the design of it seperates it enough from the engine heat. I on the other hand will use the green filters when the time comes, more people who own AMGs have found them to be better and give a better throttle response.

Now could we please stop this bickering...

 

55fan,

I keep hearing about these green filters, what are they? and are they similar to K&N? and where to buy? I know a lot of questions but the sound of more performance without all the complications is what I'm looking for, bolt on and go fast!

 

green filters can be had through Euroteck motorsports, just like K&N but for some reason better on the MAS

 

I don't drive a ML55....................so I'm the one out of line
But..............same engine as mine................E55 owners have been there and done that...............telling you all what some of us (w210 E55 owners) have done.....................................so just giving my .02.

 

we actually have a differnet engine. ML55 engine is same as the S55 engine... Same block but thats where it ends

 

My bad.............it really has different heads?............I thought all 5.5 engines are the same other than intake and exhaust.

W208 clk55 has 342 HP compared to my 349 HP due to exhaust
same engine........same heads........same intake!

What's the difference?

 

no when I mean the block is the same, I mean the same solid block, internals are all different, I know that the ML and the S share identical engine(internals and all)

I dont know what other AMGs share similar engines we all share the same 5.5l engine block, different internals on them though