Aftermarket Wheel/Tire Specs
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Aftermarket Wheel/Tire Specs
Hello All,
Just lowered my 2015 S550 and bought a set of Avant Garde in 22x9 et +30 and 22x10.5 et +40. Going to get the wheels and test fit them to see what tire sizes I can run. Will I need to run spacers to be flush? Also, show me your wheel and tire setup with specs please!!
TIA
Just lowered my 2015 S550 and bought a set of Avant Garde in 22x9 et +30 and 22x10.5 et +40. Going to get the wheels and test fit them to see what tire sizes I can run. Will I need to run spacers to be flush? Also, show me your wheel and tire setup with specs please!!
TIA
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Hope this helps, as it's hard to find mod information on S-Classes. Mine is daily driver and also lowered since purchased April of 2014.
If you are using 245 (9" rim width) front and 285 (10.5" rim width) rear I estimate you need 10mm (9.3mm to be exact) spacers on the fronts and 12mm (13.3 mm to be exact, will have to trim tab slightly) on the rears to have the most aggressive fit without rubbing in relation to using maximum rim width to tire width per tire manufacturer.
This was based on using Pirelli Pzero Nero as they run wider tread width per other tires I have used which is just about all. My wheel offsets were machined down millimeter by millimeter till no rubbing. I currently run 255 on 9.5" fronts and 295 on 11" rears.
Mine has a 2mm clearance throughout full suspension travel on original alignment specs measured at the stock height with rear quarter to bumper tab trimmed.
If you re-align based off lowered height using custom specs I don't know how it will affect clearance as MB is supposed to align based on roemess angle.
In case concerned about alignment because of tire life I can say that my tires have lasted 40K on the fronts and 12K to 15K on the rears on Pirelli or Toyo tires.
Sorry, got carried away with info. Regardless ask around as this is based of mine which is supposed to be same vehicle.
If you are using 245 (9" rim width) front and 285 (10.5" rim width) rear I estimate you need 10mm (9.3mm to be exact) spacers on the fronts and 12mm (13.3 mm to be exact, will have to trim tab slightly) on the rears to have the most aggressive fit without rubbing in relation to using maximum rim width to tire width per tire manufacturer.
This was based on using Pirelli Pzero Nero as they run wider tread width per other tires I have used which is just about all. My wheel offsets were machined down millimeter by millimeter till no rubbing. I currently run 255 on 9.5" fronts and 295 on 11" rears.
Mine has a 2mm clearance throughout full suspension travel on original alignment specs measured at the stock height with rear quarter to bumper tab trimmed.
If you re-align based off lowered height using custom specs I don't know how it will affect clearance as MB is supposed to align based on roemess angle.
In case concerned about alignment because of tire life I can say that my tires have lasted 40K on the fronts and 12K to 15K on the rears on Pirelli or Toyo tires.
Sorry, got carried away with info. Regardless ask around as this is based of mine which is supposed to be same vehicle.
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Mine is the actual vehicle on AG Wheels website.
Side angle from back.
Side angle from front.
Rear wheel at angle.
Front wheel at angle.
Rear.wheel flushness.
Front wheel flushness.
Side angle from back.
Side angle from front.
Rear wheel at angle.
Front wheel at angle.
Rear.wheel flushness.
Front wheel flushness.
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Hope this helps, as it's hard to find mod information on S-Classes. Mine is daily driver and also lowered since purchased April of 2014.
If you are using 245 (9" rim width) front and 285 (10.5" rim width) rear I estimate you need 10mm (9.3mm to be exact) spacers on the fronts and 12mm (13.3 mm to be exact, will have to trim tab slightly) on the rears to have the most aggressive fit without rubbing in relation to using maximum rim width to tire width per tire manufacturer.
This was based on using Pirelli Pzero Nero as they run wider tread width per other tires I have used which is just about all. My wheel offsets were machined down millimeter by millimeter till no rubbing. I currently run 255 on 9.5" fronts and 295 on 11" rears.
Mine has a 2mm clearance throughout full suspension travel on original alignment specs measured at the stock height with rear quarter to bumper tab trimmed.
If you re-align based off lowered height using custom specs I don't know how it will affect clearance as MB is supposed to align based on roemess angle.
In case concerned about alignment because of tire life I can say that my tires have lasted 40K on the fronts and 12K to 15K on the rears on Pirelli or Toyo tires.
Sorry, got carried away with info. Regardless ask around as this is based of mine which is supposed to be same vehicle.
If you are using 245 (9" rim width) front and 285 (10.5" rim width) rear I estimate you need 10mm (9.3mm to be exact) spacers on the fronts and 12mm (13.3 mm to be exact, will have to trim tab slightly) on the rears to have the most aggressive fit without rubbing in relation to using maximum rim width to tire width per tire manufacturer.
This was based on using Pirelli Pzero Nero as they run wider tread width per other tires I have used which is just about all. My wheel offsets were machined down millimeter by millimeter till no rubbing. I currently run 255 on 9.5" fronts and 295 on 11" rears.
Mine has a 2mm clearance throughout full suspension travel on original alignment specs measured at the stock height with rear quarter to bumper tab trimmed.
If you re-align based off lowered height using custom specs I don't know how it will affect clearance as MB is supposed to align based on roemess angle.
In case concerned about alignment because of tire life I can say that my tires have lasted 40K on the fronts and 12K to 15K on the rears on Pirelli or Toyo tires.
Sorry, got carried away with info. Regardless ask around as this is based of mine which is supposed to be same vehicle.
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Looks so good. Saw it on their website. I'm gettin the M615s. What did you use to lower your car? Also did it last more than 45 days^^ (like the guy above said)?
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My info based on:
Fronts: 22x9 with 245/30-22 or 22x9.5 with 255/30-22
Rears: 22x10.5 with 285/25-22 or 22x11 with 295/25-22
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Forgot to mention that for tires to last that long and hold the gross vehicle weight rating I have to inflate tires to 46psi cold for front and rear to match OE size weight capacity at current ride height. If inflated to MB recommended specs tires will not carry weight of vehicle and will wear edges.
This was cross referenced using tire load index pressure chart of tire manufacturer.
Vehicle rides smoother and quieter then when on the OE 20" runflats.
This was cross referenced using tire load index pressure chart of tire manufacturer.
Vehicle rides smoother and quieter then when on the OE 20" runflats.
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Used lowering links on this S-class, so far so good. Wanted to try those OBD ones but will just try when W223 comes.
I used to use those ELMs on W221 but always had errors when mileage got high.
Went back to links because never had problems on W220 after 200K.
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How is the ride on lowering links? What brand did you use?
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I know those tire sizes will fit, they will look meaty for sure. I have ran 265 on 8 inch wide and 285 on 9 inch wide on my AMG and 285 on 8 inch wide and 305 on 10 inch wide on my dads M4. With these calculations you can go up a width of 10 on tire sizes for every half inch of wheel.
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Not a fan of the look but I would be concerned about wheel damage with that thin of a tire and also airmatic issues with the struts. These struts do not like to run that low and they cost a fortune to fix. Not worth the risk but YMMV.
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so I dropped my w221 on Links, not excessively maybe 1.5" all around. The rear air shocks went out fairly quik. I dont see how u guys run that low and dont blow the bags. Bc I did.
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Are they compatible?
I traded just traded in my 2011 4matic in for a 2014 4matic. I have still a good set of Asanti Black Label rims 295/25/22 rear and 245/30/22 fronts. Will these still fit my 2014, I'm hoping they will don't want to let them go they're sweet set of rims for the summer. Any help would be appreciated.
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I traded just traded in my 2011 4matic in for a 2014 4matic. I have still a good set of Asanti Black Label rims 295/25/22 rear and 245/30/22 fronts. Will these still fit my 2014, I'm hoping they will don't want to let them go they're sweet set of rims for the summer. Any help would be appreciated.
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Spacers
Thanks for the rim info, I have some H&R spacers also 20mm rear and 15mm front. Would using these put the factory 19" rims flush with the body? I have 275/40 on the rear and 245/45 on the front.
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Am I the only one who thinks the D-class looks tarted-up trying to pretend it look like a sports car ??
It is a luxury car, that is supposed to have an extremely smooth ride, and be well mannered........
It is a luxury car, that is supposed to have an extremely smooth ride, and be well mannered........
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I'm sure you're not. Everyone has different preferences and taste. A lot of it is age and culture dependent as well. Some prefer 18s, some 22s, some even 24s. A forum is unique in a way that it is able to showcase everyone's style from all over the world in one place for others to see and choose the style they may want to go after themselves. I don't think most of us are trying to pretend it's a sports car, I for one prefer a more aggressive look while trying to maintain the comfort at the same time. I have 20s now and feel they are a tad too small for such a big car, I plan to get 21s or 22s as I feel that is the perfect size for these cars and I understand I'll sacrifice some comfort by doing so. Just my opinion...
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Since no one took a shot at it, I will::
This wheel is 1.5" wider than factory at the front, and will need a similar 1.5" wider rear wheel to round out the package.
So, 10" in the front and 11.5" at the rear.
With VERY CAREFUL selection of the offset and tire bead profile such that::
a) the outer edge of the front tire does not touch the fender or wheel well at maximum steering and bump height,
b) the inner edge of the wheel does not touch the 5 links that control the front suspension,
you have a chance for it to work.
Just picking an already manufactured wheel and hoping is going to leave you in an unhappy spot as everything is going to be SO CLOSE.
Probability that there is an existing wheel combination that does this is LOW
Probability that with enough measurements to verify before telling someone to make such a wheel; success is moderate (above 50% but not close to 90%)
Dropping back to a 9.5" wheel would vastly increase the odds of it being able to work--but is still going to need precise and careful measurements--before telling someone to make a wheel of those dimensions.
So, 10" in the front and 11.5" at the rear.
With VERY CAREFUL selection of the offset and tire bead profile such that::
a) the outer edge of the front tire does not touch the fender or wheel well at maximum steering and bump height,
b) the inner edge of the wheel does not touch the 5 links that control the front suspension,
you have a chance for it to work.
Just picking an already manufactured wheel and hoping is going to leave you in an unhappy spot as everything is going to be SO CLOSE.
Probability that there is an existing wheel combination that does this is LOW
Probability that with enough measurements to verify before telling someone to make such a wheel; success is moderate (above 50% but not close to 90%)
Dropping back to a 9.5" wheel would vastly increase the odds of it being able to work--but is still going to need precise and careful measurements--before telling someone to make a wheel of those dimensions.