Performance Upgrades & Tuning Discuss general performance and tuning enhancements for your Mercedes-Benz.

Anyone with aftermarket or no cats on supercharged V8?

Old Mar 30, 2004 | 12:17 PM
  #1  
sajecw's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
Anyone with aftermarket or no cats on supercharged V8?

I am looking to redo my exhaust system on my SC CLK55. My exhaust guy does not want to change my cats because he said the AMG cars flow very well and that cats such as Rapid Technologies, would not yield any gains.

We are going to go with a 4" exhaust with a 4" resonator and 4" race muffler after the cats.

Does anyone have any knowledge about gains with changing or removing the cats on a supercharged MB?

Thanks.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 12:44 PM
  #2  
Sleestack's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,687
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
I'm not sure about the cats alone, however, I had MKB cats installed as part of the MKB 55 Hypertune kit.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 12:51 PM
  #3  
pointman's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,705
Likes: 2
From: nj
a car that can't do the throttle reset.
cat removal will hurt your low end torque, and trigger CEL. AMG cats are pretty well made... i wouldnt recommend it... i had it done on my 211 E55... hurt my torque so had them put back in.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 02:36 PM
  #4  
Dan Wang's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,697
Likes: 4
From: Santa Ana, CA
E320CDI, CLK55, and a Smart
I have supersprint resonators on my CLK55, didnt do much, but gave it a very nice exhaust note.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 05:52 PM
  #5  
speedybenz's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 592
Likes: 0
From: Sacramento
AMG C43, 1999
Removing the 2nd set of cats can reduce backpressure and help performance. But it is going to take several days for the computer to readjust. With the 2nd set of cats gone I do not think you are going to see a CEL.

If you remove the 1st set of cats then I would think you will see a CEL.

As for Mercedes cats, I think they are OK but not great, there are better Metallic cats out there that will yield more Hp.

Jeff
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 07:38 PM
  #6  
sajecw's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
Thanks for the responses.

I pretty much decided to just go 3.5" after the cats with a straight through 3.5" inlet/outlet Magnaflow muffler.

I am leaving the stock cats in. I also do not want to swap in the cats every year for inspections.

I figure on a supercharged car, bumping from a 3" to a 3.5" will help.

I will keep you posted.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 12:07 PM
  #7  
DuncanM's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: Laurel MD
1998 C43
Originally posted by sajecw
Thanks for the responses.

I pretty much decided to just go 3.5" after the cats with a straight through 3.5" inlet/outlet Magnaflow muffler.

I am leaving the stock cats in. I also do not want to swap in the cats every year for inspections.

I figure on a supercharged car, bumping from a 3" to a 3.5" will help.

I will keep you posted.
You may want to check into that. Sometimes a larger diameter pipe will cause you to lose power.
Reply
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 04:49 PM
  #8  
sajecw's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
I am not as concerned about a few ft lbs of torque as I am about the mid and upper range hp.

I am hoping to see an improvement there.

My guy is making it with a flange, so it can be easily removed.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 4, 2004 | 12:04 AM
  #9  
speedybenz's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 592
Likes: 0
From: Sacramento
AMG C43, 1999
I put a dual 2.5" diameter exhaust on my C43 from the 2nd set of cats back. I used a Magnaflow muffler that is shaped like an "X" pipe on the inside. It took a few days for the ECU to adjust and then the car really ripped. Very good low, mid and much better top end. Revs out hard on top.

I also replaced the 2nd set of cats later on on that also helped out. Total backpressure from the stock cats back to the tail pipe was 4.5psi and with the new cats it's 2.5psi. Power output climbs nicely with the lower backpressure.

Your engine gets all the backpressure it needs and then some from the 1st set of cats.

Jeff
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2004 | 02:42 AM
  #10  
I1 ULOOZ
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
If possible please post us the sound of the finished product.

Thanks Ed
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2004 | 01:33 PM
  #11  
sajecw's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
Thanks guys.

I am almost done tuning the air/fuel with the new injectors.

The exhaust should be going in on Friday.

I will post a sound/video clip somewhere.

Where is a good place to put an API file?
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2004 | 06:58 AM
  #12  
Twinturbo's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
From: Perth,Australia
quote "You may want to check into that. Sometimes a larger diameter pipe will cause you to lose power."

This is true for naturally aspirated engines as it is important for the exhaust to be tuned correctly, however for turbo or supercharged engines for that matter generally the larger the diameter the greater the gains
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:13 AM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE